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An ID is fine. They are asking for proof of citizenship that not all citizens have. It's just a reason to interfere with elections. There are many id's that they could ask for. They are asking for id's that many citizens cannot provide. Don't you get it. BS Everyone has a birth certificate. They may not have one in the home but they can easily be obtained from the health dept. from the county of your birth for a few bucks. If naturalized, that info can be obtained. You guys act like this is hard to do. Being a citizen carries some responsibility. If you don't have your chit, go get it.
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Just need to go back to a few easy steps to fix the voting fraud. You do know that the majority of the voting fraud has actually been PROVEN to be Republicans. . . . that's the reality. Not your warped BS about stolen elections that Trump won in 2020. And ... it completely misses the point of King Trump trying to pee all over the constitution - AGAIN. The Democrats stole a primary election in 2016 from Bernie Sanders. They stole the 2020 primary for Biden. Then they stole the election in 2020 from Donald Trump. Do you know how many times all of that has been challenged? Yet, we keep hearing the same things and NO PROOF! Check with the Heritage Foundation, a Right Wing org. on how much voter fraud exists. Here's a hint, you won't like it. Check with Brookings... They'll tell you the same story..... You won't like it. There are valid sources out there that disprove all your assertions including court cases. All you got is Trumps word,,,,, and we all know what that's worth.
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So let me see if I have this right. So now you're saying people should have a photo ID AND their birth certificate to vote? Based on what criteria? Should you and I have to show both a photo ID and a birth certificate to vote or is a photo ID alone enough? Above you skipped actually holding a discussion on this topic so I'll ask you again, what do you think about this? It's that just saying "Everyone needs a photo ID to vote" is a fraction of it. It seems to be a one size fits all solution without anything included to help those which it presents an obstacle to get those ID's.
I wasn't aware of how it worked in Ohio but after reading from some posters living there and looking it up, there are programs in Ohio which makes those ID's free and you can even get transportation to acquire one. If you're going to require all voters to have a photo ID they should have easy access and free ID's. Ohio is doing that. If you demand voters have photo ID's in every state it should be required to do it the way Ohio does it in every state. But that isn't in the bill now is it?
When I lived in Ohio it's the same as it is here in Tennessee. I had to go to my license registration office to get my drivers license. That's almost 20 minutes away by car. It was the same way when I lived in Ohio. A drivers license in Tennessee is $28. That's not an obstacle for me. That's easy for me and you too.
But not for many people. Not for the poor, often times the elderly or disabled. They have the same right to vote as all the rest of us do. If you are going to require voters to have a photo ID in all states, all states should have programs like Ohio making those ID's free and transportation to get those ID's. But you don't see that in the SAFE act do you? Of course you don't.
No American citizen should have to pay to vote. No American citizen should have obstacles placed in their way to vote. Anything? Anything at all?
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To be fair, 2/3 of his assertions are at least debatable (the DNC primaries he mentions).
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I think that would heavily depend on what your definition of "stole" is. It certainly wouldn't fit the definition of the word.
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