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Normally you build around your best players not trade them away unless you are undergoing a rebuild. But sometimes you get characters that think they're the smartest guys in the room and things go sideways.

I believe that we’re keeping Myles and also believe we should.

As a new coach I would not like my first year without my teams best player.

We aren't trading Myles. This is what Berry does with long term contracts. They write it one way, it makes the player the highest paid at his position, but now they changed the wording so that Myles gets more money up front, yet the salary cap is lightened these first (3) years. Once the salary cap rises over the next three seasons, they can extend him, take a hit in the 4th year, as well as backloading again on the next deal.

Everyone that screams about how terrible Haslem is.. Haslem is the reason Berry can do this. Every time they make one of these contract restructures, cash has to go into escrow to cover it. The team spends the same amount, the player in many cases gets their money earlier, but the cap is spread out and sometimes reduced. You have to have a lot of free cash as an owner to be able to do this. It's why there aren't 31 other teams doing it exactly the same way.

we would need 5 first round picks

If there is any constant with this team, it is that Browns fans will always talk about trading away their most valuable player(s).

The issue with Haslam has never been questioning him spending the money to build a winning franchise. He has certainly been willing to do that. It's been a question about who he has put in charge of spending it.

I agree. I do not think the move on his contract was done to make his contract more friendly to trade. With that said the speculation comes from moving a bonus that was due to hit the books before the draft until before the start of the regular season. I also think if a team offered a possible massive franchise changing type deal the Browns would make that trade. I just don't know what team would make that deal for 30-year-old. I guess it is possible but unlikely.

This feels like it is being restructured in a way Berry has never executed before, but I could be wrong. It could very well be a new way to create financial flexibility, and if so, well done finding another way to do so.

My understanding is that a MG trade is essentially impossible because of a massive dead cap acceleration. The FO is currently working our cap situation to go in the opposite direction, and we are already managing Watsons dead cap. I just don't see the appetite to make an already tough situation tougher.

I asked GoogleAI, and it said that if he were traded prior to June1, his dead cap hit is $41m and hits immediately. If he were traded post June 1, then that same $41m would be spread over 2026 and 2027 (~$15m in 2026 and ~$25m in 2027).

Assuming those numbers/structure is at least mostly accurate, I find it very hard to imagine a trade being done. We have been working to get under the cap while simultaneously working to plug gaping holes in the roster. Most importantly, I don't see the FO wanting to make any sort of indication that we are kicking off a rebuild. If anything, I think we are praying for a miracle that gets our O competitive enough to allow our defense to get to us the playoffs and win within the next few years before our defense will require significant investment again.

"My understanding is that a MG trade is essentially impossible because of a massive dead cap acceleration." - Oobernoober


That is correct, the media keeps framing this that it is now FEASIBLE for the Browns to trade Myles because the team trading for him wouldn't have such a massive cap hit... they keep leaving out the cap hit Cleveland would have to take if they move him. Even if they waited until after June 1st, the hits in 2027 and 2028 would be massive. The same will be true for Watson, same time frame.