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FATE #2136917 04/24/26 03:21 PM
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There's nothing to be embarrassed about. Except for the people repeating trump's BS of what a terrible deal it was without any substance to back that up other than repeating trump's BS about what a "bad deal" it was. That's all you managed to do.......

Stockpile Reduction: Iran was required to reduce its stockpile of enriched uranium from over 10,000 kg (enough for 8-10 bombs) to no more than 300 kg of 3.67% low-enriched uranium.

Removal of Excess: The vast majority of Iran's stockpile was either shipped out of the country or diluted, according to the Obama White House Archives.

Enrichment Level Cap: The deal capped Iran's enrichment level at 3.67%, which is suitable for civilian nuclear power but far below the 90% required for a nuclear weapon.

Duration: These limitations were designed to last for 15 years.

Declared Facilities: The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) had 24/7 continuous monitoring via cameras and online enrichment monitors at declared nuclear sites like Natanz and Fordow.

Now let's look at the trump approach.

He told Iran they would undergo continuing talks. Not once but twice they left talks on Friday that were set to resume on Monday and he bombed them over those week-ends. All he has done is show the globe that you can't trust our government to honor its word from one day to the next.

I mean there are two ways to look at this. They either had nothing to speak of in terms of nuclear capability when trump started this war if you believe what trump told you in June of 2025 after he said he "obliterated their nuclear program setting it back many years, even decades" or they were "less than a month away from having a nuclear weapon" when trump started this war with Iran which is the same false flag Netanyahu has been repeating over and over again since the 1990's.

You are a pretty funny guy though. When I try to get an answer to a question about something from you, you throw a fit and claim you don't have to answer anything and that you're not my puppet. Then expect to get an answer from me?

Before we get into this too deep I hope you've taken something for your mood swings.

It's also hilarious that Obama had a much better deal and accomplished more to put Iran's nuclear capability in check and after about 50 billion so far trump hasn't really accomplished anything in that regard. And that was with zero American troops killed or injured during Obama reaching that deal. I hope if noting else that means something to you.


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Originally Posted by FATE
Oh, look, Laurel and Hardy have arrived.

And still no substance.

Strike two and a miss!


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PitDAWG #2136931 04/24/26 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Originally Posted by FATE
Oh, look, Laurel and Hardy have arrived.

And still no substance.

Strike two and a miss!

Substance?? Laural wanted to whatabout Trump and Hardy said I'm in a cult. You want me to provide substance to that??


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PitDAWG #2136932 04/24/26 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
There's nothing to be embarrassed about. Except for the people repeating trump's BS of what a terrible deal it was without any substance to back that up other than repeating trump's BS about what a "bad deal" it was. That's all you managed to do.......

Stockpile Reduction: Iran was required to reduce its stockpile of enriched uranium from over 10,000 kg (enough for 8-10 bombs) to no more than 300 kg of 3.67% low-enriched uranium.

Removal of Excess: The vast majority of Iran's stockpile was either shipped out of the country or diluted, according to the Obama White House Archives.

Enrichment Level Cap: The deal capped Iran's enrichment level at 3.67%, which is suitable for civilian nuclear power but far below the 90% required for a nuclear weapon.

Duration: These limitations were designed to last for 15 years.

Declared Facilities: The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) had 24/7 continuous monitoring via cameras and online enrichment monitors at declared nuclear sites like Natanz and Fordow.

Now let's look at the trump approach.

He told Iran they would undergo continuing talks. Not once but twice they left talks on Friday that were set to resume on Monday and he bombed them over those week-ends. All he has done is show the globe that you can't trust our government to honor its word from one day to the next.

I mean there are two ways to look at this. They either had nothing to speak of in terms of nuclear capability when trump started this war if you believe what trump told you in June of 2025 after he said he "obliterated their nuclear program setting it back many years, even decades" or they were "less than a month away from having a nuclear weapon" when trump started this war with Iran which is the same false flag Netanyahu has been repeating over and over again since the 1990's.

You are a pretty funny guy though. When I try to get an answer to a question about something from you, you throw a fit and claim you don't have to answer anything and that you're not my puppet. Then expect to get an answer from me?

Before we get into this too deep I hope you've taken something for your mood swings.

It's also hilarious that Obama had a much better deal and accomplished more to put Iran's nuclear capability in check and after about 50 billion so far trump hasn't really accomplished anything in that regard. And that was with zero American troops killed or injured during Obama reaching that deal. I hope if noting else that means something to you.

Great story, but I think you missed the question... How does this "prevent Iran from having a nuclear weapon"?


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Originally Posted by FATE
Great story, but I think you missed the question... How does this "prevent Iran from having a nuclear weapon"?

I'm sorry you couldn't grasp the removal of their enriched uranium and the inspections that kept all of the uranium enrichment down to 300 kg of 3.67% low-enriched uranium. 3.67% enrichment of Uranium-235 is specifically designed for use in civilian nuclear power plants to produce electricity.

The agreement wouldn't have even ended until July of last year by which time they had already enriched a lot of uranium to over 60%. Trump had given them since 2018 to do so. Trump and any other administration would have had years negotiate a new deal without any of what we see now happening had the Obama deal have been left in place.

And on top of all of that, there is zero evidence Iran holds any uranium enriched to over 60% even now. weapons grade uranium needs to be enriched to 90+% to make a nuclear weapon.

Trump started a war that didn't need to happen when it did.

The funny thing is you have more questions to answer here than I do. But unlike me, you won't. No surprise there.


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mgh888 #2136947 04/24/26 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mgh888
Daman -

I think you go way, way overboard -- or you maybe fire from the hip not caring -- way too often. But - this post is dead nuts on the money.

- Iran was not 2 weeks away from a nuke.
- Either we didn't obliterate their capacity 9 months ago - or we lied to go to war. Take your pick. It's actually most probably both.
- Netanyahu definitely played Trump and led us into this war which he has tried to scaremonger us into for 20 years.
- There was no real plan and definitely no exit strategy when Iran didn't instantly capitulate - hence the empty threats and constant ratcheting up of rhetoric which is Trump's only play and he hasn't realized Iran does not care.
- Yes Hegseth is incompetent and has small man syndrome
- Firing the military and intelligence personnel was foolish and short sighted.
- 1000% get your allies on board before you launch an attack they all determine as illegal - and don't insult and demean them constantly when they stick to principals and adhere to international law.

Love it,,, I went overboard, but you agree.,.....Perfect.

Worry not my friend, I always pack extra life vests!

The really funny thing about not having a plan and not having the intelligence on the matter is incredible. I mean, Iran has a history of not Capitulating. Nothing new. But without someone to bring that up, Hegseth and Trump either didn't know or didn't care because they thought they could puff up their chests and make the cry uncle. Honestly, I'm not really sure which.

Trump and the minions don't or can't grasp that our allies don't really need us. They are stronger with us, but without us, they are formidable. So taking the approach that we can just "Bully" them, is childish and nutty and well, wrong.


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