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True, being on sidelines isn't helping your team. Watson has higher career rating than Mayfield. He's younger. Stafford is 38 starting another season. IF Watson plays well- he could be QB for next 7 years or so. I hope his marriage has straighten him out and hope he lights up the NFL with our new receiver weapons. Go Browns!!!!


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According to NFL On Prime as of August of 2025 only 8 starting QB's were 30 or older.

https://www.facebook.com/nflonprime/posts/only-8-starting-qbs-are-30-or-older-/1340354738098135/

watson is 30 years old. watson has been with the Browns since March of 2022. That's four full seasons. In those four seasons he has played in 19 games.

Stats alone can't predict the future but what they can do is establish the likelihood of how things will play out moving forward.


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Could DW be a QB for another 7 years? Well, that's possible but how many of those over 30 QB's have had 2 Achilles injuries? He's had other injuries besides that also. I wouldn't bet DW will be a QB into his late 30's.

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The speculation out there now about DW is something.

I am glad that he is healthy. If Monken starts him. I trust that DW has beaten out Shedeur and earned the role.

That is where it ends for me.

DW has done next to nothing for over five years. Even when healthy with the Browns he played poorly.

Let's talk about injuries. He broke a bone in his shoulder. Tore an Achilles and then tore the same Achilles again.

His playing style is to use his mobility. Create more options and deliver the ball accurately. When he played I did not see that.

He looked confused. He was late and inaccurate. He took hits extending plays and suffered for it.

He is not the guy he was when he played for Houston. He is older and damaged and does not have the game time experience in the bank.

He is like an old fighter trying to make a comeback.

I have seen that "story line" before and the ending has not been good.

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I think the speculation about Watson is total stupidity. He will be gone after the end of this year no matter if he is a bench warmer or starter.

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Originally Posted by bonefish


I have seen that "story line" before and the ending has not been good.

Spot on. An end to the very worst trade in the history of the NFL. Firstly I do not see him suddenly metamorphosizing into an elite QB - he's had maybe 3 good games out of 19 for the Browns. Talk of him suddenly becoming very good/elite during the offseason is a bit like Browns fans thinking they are going to the SB after free agency and the draft ... it's based on emotion and fandom, not anything to do with reality. Maybe Monken's offense will suit him more? Chuck it up and be aggressive? But that would onlyu highlight the stupidity of trading for Watson with our offense being Stefanski's.

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DW was a first round talent.

It was in him. He could play. He was a star in college as well. He took over games.

Since those days he has been through a lot both physically and mentally.

It is not that he is thirty and done for. It is not his age.

Playing at an elite level is a groove. You play ball and stay in that groove. Repetitions against high level competition keep you sharp.

You gather dust when you are inactive. I do not see him all of a sudden on the field after practicing and the fog goes away and he is once again an elite player.

Monken is an experienced coach. I have to trust him. But if DW starts a home game and it does not go well. It will be brutal.

We shall see where this all leads to.

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How the Browns have vetted QB Brendan Sorsby so far, and their next steps before deciding whether to bid on him: Mary Kay Cabot

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/20...hether-to-bid-on-him-mary-kay-cabot.html


I think the majority of NFL teams will pass on Sorsby. His future does not look great at this time. Being labelled with a gambling addiction and betting on his team in the past. Every time he fumbles. Every time he throws a pick fans will say it was on purpose due to gambling or paying off debt. He needs to be picked up by someone like Green Bay that stash young QBs on their roster for multiple years let them learn and in Sorsby's case get his life straight while he learns to have a chance to be successful. In the sports world gambling on his own team is a major red flag that entire leagues do not want to be associated with. See Pete Rose.


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Times are changing.

Gambling is everywhere and it is in your face. People like to gamble.

He is a young guy and if he has the talent. He will get drafted.

Teams will vet him. Hell look at the whole DW deal.

Quarterbacks are like gem stones. Teams believe they can polish them up and away we go.

I have no opinion on him. Never seen a snap he has taken. But the Browns know him. If they think he has what it takes.

They will do a deep dive on him. They will be exhaustive in the process of evaluating him.

Because of the way the supplemental draft works. If they see him as a true first round talent and can get him with a third round offer.

They will do it. It all depends on how their evaluation of him pans out. There is no way they offer a first rounder.

After that who knows?

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I'd actually be more likely to bid on Sorsby in the supplemental draft if I knew he was going to be suspended for a year and wouldn't take up a roster spot this season. Hopefully the league clarifies his status beforehand.

A gamble makes more sense after we're rid of Watson and figure out what Shedeur is. Adding another body to an already crowded and question filled room seems almost more like an extra problem than an opportunity at this juncture. Especially if there is an unknown length suspension looming (Pryor's 5 game suspension for the memorabilia for cash scandal at Ohio State being a similar-ish precedent.) I don't know if advancing to a full 3 ring circus is something I'd want on the first year HC's plate, Monken's got his work cut out for him as is.


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I would bid a 7th on Sorsby. No more.

The talent is there, and the way the NFL rules are written, he may not be suspended for his college ...... indiscretions ..... but he could be if it continues into the NFL.

I don't see investing more than that.


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I really do not know what the NFL's stance will be.

There is fine print but I don't know it. I have not heard anything conclusive about what he actually did or did not do.

This much is true. We all know what the Browns situation is at quarterback. Unless something unforeseen happens the Browns will draft a quarterback in 2027.

Sorsby if he enters the supplemental draft is an early pick in the draft.

So he will be evaluated. Gabriel is out. Green will be stashed and developed. Shedeur could be the backup this year. He could be the starter in 27. DW will be a free agent.

So Sorsby could well be in the mix.

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Per ESPN (Or Google's AI pull up from ESPN), "Sorsby filed a lawsuit in a local court in Lubbock County on May 18 seeking his eligibility. In the suit, he acknowledged betting on thousands of sporting events as part of his gambling addiction. That included betting on Indiana football games while on the team."

At one point, the NFL had a minimum two year suspension as the penalty for betting on an involving team. I'm not sure if that's still the case. Or how the "it happened in college" part would factor in. But, I don't think the protect the shield stance that the NFL typically holds would lend towards them doing nothing.

In some ways, I think his having made the addiction claim (true or not, though I imagine he supported it with an official diagnosis) makes things worse for him. Young, dumb, bored, and didn't think it was a big deal doesn't bring the same worry of relapse.


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5 sleeper 2027 QB prospects Browns fans should start watching now:

Everyone knows about Arch Manning, Dante Moore, Julian Sayin, and C.J. Carr. There's a lot more to the class than that.

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It goes without saying that, as the season hasn't even begun yet, counting out the Browns and particularly Shedeur Sanders this early isn't fair to any of the involved parties. It's also not inherently anti-Shedeur to keep an eye on the incoming rookie class, just in case. At this time of year, the scouts are usually buzzing about the upcoming class. The 2027 crop is no different.


We all know about Texas' Arch Manning, as the heir to the Manning throne has been ballyhooed since he was in high school. Dante Moore was expected to be the second quarterback taken in the 2026 draft, before returning to school when faced with the deplorable reality of having to turn around the New York Jets. They may as well have been asking the just-turned 21-year-old to square the circle. Then there's Julian Sayin of the hometown Buckeyes and Notre Dame's C.J. Carr, each of whom played themselves onto the national radar screen with impressive performances on primetime stages.

What makes this class unique, however, is that those are simply the most well-known prospects. There are at least five others that Browns fans should stop and tune in for if they happen to stumble on one of their universities' games this fall.

The Cleveland Browns need to get the quarterback position right, once and for all

LaNorris Sellers, South Carolina

Forgive me, college football fans, for including Sellers on a list of under-the-radar prospects. It's true that Sellers has had his fair share of admirers for at least the last two years. The 2025 season was difficult for him, though, as many scouts who predicted a huge leap were left disappointed. The 6-foot-3, 240-pound phenomenal athlete regressed slightly, completing 60.8 percent of his passes for 2,437 yards, 13 touchdowns, and eight interceptions.

Despite the athleticism he displayed in droves in 2024, his rushing numbers were down as well, with only 270 yards, down from 674 the prior year. Scouts are still bullish on his future, as the young man will only turn 21 in about a month. Sellers falls somewhere closer to a tools-guy than a proven commodity on that spectrum, though he's considered a far cry from someone like, say, Anthony Richardson.


He's credited by ESPN's resident scout Jordan Reid with “A-level attributes such as arm power, mobility, and strength,” as well as an impeccable deep ball described as “a great feel for the trajectory and touch on long passes that allows him to 'drop it in the bucket’ when attacking downfield." The reason he's not considered a slam-dunk first-rounder relates back to his sack rate (11.1 percent, second in the FBS) and his affinity for the risky. Should he improve his decision-making, there's a very real chance the Browns could have interest.

C.J. Bailey, NC State

A little north of Sellers is another intriguing option who emerged onto the radar in 2025. Bailey, standing 6-foot-6 and weighing 210 pounds, looks the part of franchise quarterback. He also plays like one. In 2025, he threw for 3,105 yards on 68.8-percent completions with 25 TDs and nine interceptions. He displayed some functional mobility with 214 yards on the ground, though his game is mostly predicated on beating teams from the pocket.


Bailey turned 20 years old just a few weeks ago, making it a real possibility that he is only scratching the surface of what he'll be able to do. He is described by Jordan Reid as having the "arm to drive the ball in the middle of the field and complete passes vertically." Where scouts see room for improvement is his performance when the lights are the brightest.

The then-19-year-old faltered in big-time games against Miami and Notre Dame, though it's fair to wonder if he was undermanned in those contests anyway. As with many of the QBs (including Sellers), who developed watching Patrick Mahomes extend plays for a lifetime, Bailey, too, needs to know when to get rid of the ball. It's a delicate balance to strike, though his ability to extend the play is a skill that has become a necessity at the NFL level.


Drew Mestemaker, Oklahoma State

Last season, North Texas almost made the field for the College Football Playoff. If you're wondering who on earth was at the controls for such a Herculean effort at such a tiny institution, look no further than Drew Mestemaker. The 6-foot-3, 215-pound flamethrower completed 68.9 percent of his passes for a whopping 4,379 yards, totaling 34 TDs with nine interceptions. A more prototypical passer, Mestemaker's 89 rushing yards reflect his preference for beating teams with his arm.

Jordan Reid praises the once-unknown walk-on, lauding his "live arm and the confidence to test the tightest windows from various platforms. His style is unconventional, as he holds the ball at his waistline, but Mestemaker is capable of a couple of 'wow' throws every game." Like Bailey and Sellers, Mestemaker is still just 20 years old, once again giving teams hope that his tools will get even better as he finishes developing. After transferring, he'll get the opportunity on a grander stage at Oklahoma State.


Scouts are concerned with his confidence, not because he lacks it, but because he perhaps has too much of it. A passer who endeared himself to the Cleveland faithful, Baker Mayfield, also seemed to have a sometimes dangerous amount of confidence in his ability to fit the ball into a spot. It appears to be a coachable trait that can be dialed up and down as a game requires. If Mestemaker makes strides this season, a first-round future is not out of the question.

Darian Mensah, Miami Hurricanes

Each year, the Hurricanes seem to pull a rabbit out of a hat and import a new college veteran at the quarterback position. Following in the footsteps of Cam Ward and Carson Beck, next up is Duke transfer Darian Mensah. The 6-foot-3, 205-pound passer had no noticeable trouble adjusting to ACC defenses in 2025, completing 66.8 percent of his passes for 3,973 yards, 34 TDs, and six picks.


ESPN gave him a scouting report that sounds like music to Browns fans' ears:

"He plays with poise and has by-the-book mechanics, with a fluid throwing motion and a strong base. His above-average creativity helps him find extra opportunities, while his confidence allows him to locate and layer throws down the field."

While generally considered a pretty clean prospect, Mensah has one glaring issue to shore up in 2026 — ball security. The 21-year-old fumbled eight times in 2025, a troubling issue that surely made its way onto every opponent's scouting report. That trend indicates either an obliviousness to pressure or, perhaps less concerningly, excessive confidence. Browns fans are keenly aware of what a QB who holds onto the ball too long looks like after watching Shedeur Sanders, so Mensah's progress in this department will speak volumes.


Trinidad Chambliss, University of Mississippi

Chambliss just barely made the cut for this list of Jordan Reid's top prospects to know. While he dazzled last season en route to a playoff appearance, there's reason to be skeptical. Chambliss is a sixth-year senior with less than one full season of starting experience. The Ferris State transfer was thrust into the starting lineup for Lane Kiffin last year and wound up being one of the most compelling stories of 2025, completing 66.1 percent of his passes for 3,937 yards, 22 TDs, and three interceptions. He added 527 yards and eight TDs on the ground.

At 6-feet and 205 pounds, he's undersized for the position. What's more, he'll be 24 years old when the season kicks off — and a 25-year-old rookie in 2027. While not quite Brandon Weeden-level seasoned, it's fair to be wary. Nonetheless, he made a strong impression on Jordan Reid, who wrote:


"Chambliss is dynamic as a runner and a passer, as his sudden circular throwing motion helps him get the ball out quickly and was a big reason he was sacked on only 2.9% of his dropbacks. His jittery, controlled running style makes him a challenge in the rushing game, too."

Chambliss certainly has talent, and the Browns would be wise to pay attention. It is admittedly hard to see a team like Cleveland, which has opted for diminutive signal-callers in Mayfield and Johnny Manziel over the last 15 years with mixed results, going that route again. Chambliss' weaknesses as a prospect match up with the majority of his counterparts on this list. A consistent refusal to give up on a play and live to fight another down plagued his tape, and Reid would like to see improvement in that department.


It's an exciting time for Browns fans. There is no shortage of exciting quarterback prospects in the upcoming class. Now, the hard part — picking the right one.

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