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I feel better rolling the dice on Green. The other QB may be worth checking out, and a number of posters seem tp want that. I believe it would muddy the situation more. We haven't got the measure of that room under Monken yet. Not comparing apples to apples yet or anytime soon. Developing Green in two or three capacities that help the browns make sense and good use of his roster spot. If we take Sorsby(?) it feels like drawing to an inside straight (again). I am more comfortable picking him up if we "weed" the QB room or have a reliable sense of how he can work out. I will be clear: I feel no pressure to check him out, become part of this gambling taint, and import his baggage and issues on fans' sayso. MKC seems to want some QB controversy again, and annual failing.
Just say no. Cheap picks with problems are not bargains for the roster or the ;locker room chemistry. As I have stated before, I am not that curious.

Given the flux in the current QB room I don't think we will take Sorsby, or at least with anything but a late pick....say 6th round. He has already missed enough time this year to make him useless for this season, not counting anything the NFL docks him.


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Well,itcan't hurt him to get on the jugs and catch. I would think it makes him a better sales target for trade bait. He wanted to show his stuff in Combine, so why not get paid for it. That hard talk better happen before cuts.

I agree. I don't think we will be able to get him to the practice squad. .

I’m curious why? No other team wanted him before the SIXTH round. These end of draft picks don’t always make a roster. Why do you think all of a sudden one of them would want to sign him to their 53 man roster without even working him out? They can’t sign a player off a practice squad to another practice squad, they have to sign him directly to their 53 man roster.

If the Browns don’t see enough to have him on the 53, I just don’t think other teams would either at this point. If they aren’t going to sign him, don’t play him in the preseason.

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Well,itcan't hurt him to get on the jugs and catch. I would think it makes him a better sales target for trade bait. He wanted to show his stuff in Combine, so why not get paid for it. That hard talk better happen before cuts.

I agree. I don't think we will be able to get him to the practice squad. .

I’m curious why? No other team wanted him before the SIXTH round. These end of draft picks don’t always make a roster. Why do you think all of a sudden one of them would want to sign him to their 53 man roster without even working him out? They can’t sign a player off a practice squad to another practice squad, they have to sign him directly to their 53 man roster.

If the Browns don’t see enough to have him on the 53, I just don’t think other teams would either at this point. If they aren’t going to sign him, don’t play him in the preseason.

The player has to clear waivers before he can be placed on the practice squad. He can be signed as a FA.

I guess we will find out if we try to move him off the roster at cut downs.


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Well,itcan't hurt him to get on the jugs and catch. I would think it makes him a better sales target for trade bait. He wanted to show his stuff in Combine, so why not get paid for it. That hard talk better happen before cuts.

I agree. I don't think we will be able to get him to the practice squad. .

I’m curious why? No other team wanted him before the SIXTH round. These end of draft picks don’t always make a roster. Why do you think all of a sudden one of them would want to sign him to their 53 man roster without even working him out? They can’t sign a player off a practice squad to another practice squad, they have to sign him directly to their 53 man roster.

If the Browns don’t see enough to have him on the 53, I just don’t think other teams would either at this point. If they aren’t going to sign him, don’t play him in the preseason.

The player has to clear waivers before he can be placed on the practice squad. He can be signed as a FA.

I guess we will find out if we try to move him off the roster at cut downs.

Exactly, a team would have to sign him to the 53 man roster. If they didn’t want him after 6 rounds, who is going to replace one of the slots with a QB that the Browns don’t even want on the 53?

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Any team who wants a gadget QB and who is thin at the bottom of their roster.... or, any team that decides they want to try him at WR, or KR. He's in the NFL now; if we waive him, any team can claim him off waivers for free and they then own his rights. Green would have to refuse to sign any contract for the full season to get free of that.


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Taylen Green-6-6/227...

Posted a record-breaking 2026 NFL Combine performance:
...43.5" Vertical Jump
...11'2" Broad Jump
...4.36 40-yd

...all the best marks by a QB since 2003
...posted an Athleticism Score of 97

IMO, it would be a foolish risk for the Browns management to attempt to place Green on waivers...he would be claimed in a heart beat.





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Agreed, and I feel there is absolutely zero chance of it happening.

Unless he is a complete flop and implodes, he is on the roster. We drafted him to develop him - or to see if he can be developed, I guess.
If tons of work and lots of coaching can help him improve his throwing/accuracy, the kid will have a legit chance to be something. is athleticism buys him the ticket to stay and will almost certainly ensure that he gets on the field for some gadget plays this year (think Lamar's early days).


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Originally Posted by mac
Taylen Green-6-6/227...

Posted a record-breaking 2026 NFL Combine performance:
...43.5" Vertical Jump
...11'2" Broad Jump
...4.36 40-yd

...all the best marks by a QB since 2003
...posted an Athleticism Score of 97

IMO, it would be a foolish risk for the Browns management to attempt to place Green on waivers...he would be claimed in a heart beat.




If the Colts cut Deion Burks, would it be foolish not to claim him? One of the best performers of the combine overall, taken in the 7th round....

I think some people are reading way too much into combine statistics.

If he's a QB, he's a QB and is usually taken way higher than he should have been. He was passed by every team for 5 full rounds. That tells me no one really thinks much of him as a QB.


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Any team who wants a gadget QB and who is thin at the bottom of their roster.... or, any team that decides they want to try him at WR, or KR. He's in the NFL now; if we waive him, any team can claim him off waivers for free and they then own his rights. Green would have to refuse to sign any contract for the full season to get free of that.

This is the NFL, if roster spots were plenty, everyone would have a gadget QB on the roster. As it is, until they made a new rule for emergency QBs, NO ONE carried (3) QBs on the roster. Ask yourself why that is and it will explain why I feel he might not make this roster.

How many teams that are "thin" at any position is going to use that spot on a gadget QB?

For the record, he can't just refuse to sign with the new team. He has already signed his rookie contract, so any team that wants to claim him will get him at the 6th round rookie deal he has already signed. If he refuses to play, he is most likely out of the league for good.

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College has players designated as athlete. I look at Green that way. Plus, I see his future as something other than QB...

I don't know that you are talking about. If he gets waived by the Browns, he is a free agent without an NFL contract. At that point every team in the league could offer him a contract with him free to sign with anybody he wants and negotiate any terms he wants.

It is much like UDFA players. You see some signed with a signing bonus. That means other teams were trying to sign the guy so teams started bidding above any beyond standard rookie deals.


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College has players designated as athlete. I look at Green that way. Plus, I see his future as something other than QB...

I don't know that you are talking about. If he gets waived by the Browns, he is a free agent without an NFL contract. At that point every team in the league could offer him a contract with him free to sign with anybody he wants and negotiate any terms he wants.

It is much like UDFA players. You see some signed with a signing bonus. That means other teams were trying to sign the guy so teams started bidding above any beyond standard rookie deals.

No, he is only a free agent after he clears waivers. If he is claimed on waivers, the team that claims him assumes his current contract and MUST put him on their 53 man roster.

If he clears waivers, the Browns will be responsible for the guaranteed portion of the rookie contract, and also can then sign him to the practice squad if they both agree. He can also decide to sign with a different teams practice squad if he clears waivers, but once he signs to the Browns practice squad, another team would also have to sign him to the 53 man roster, they can't just move him to their practice squad.

Clear as mud??

At the end of the day, I am sure he will understand he has the best chance at a 53 man roster spot on the Browns practice squad eventually in 2026. He still has the best opportunity to grow and not only make a roster, but play, by staying with the Browns.

I think the only way the Browns would lose him is if someone claimed him off waivers, which I don't think will happen.

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[b] iris...the combine numbers are simply a tool that can be used to judge a players athletic ability.

Clearly Green's combine numbers say something about the young man that caught Monken's eye.

Given Monken's recent coaching history prior to being named the Browns HC...
...Monken was the Ravens OC and his QB was Lamar Jackson (2023–2025)
...Monken should know how to judge the potential of "dual threat" qbs
...hopefully Green has the ability to learn and progress
...I trust the judgement of Monken and his staff..!

Those who use combine numbers to judge the individual posting the numbers are focusing on the wrong subject matter, imo..!






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If you're going to try and factor things in. Factor in they felt safe leaving him on the draft board until the sixth round and a sixth round investment was all they were willing to make for him.


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If you're going to try and factor things in. Factor in they felt safe leaving him on the draft board until the sixth round and a sixth round investment was all they were willing to make for him.

Exactly!

Not just a 6th round pick either, the NINTH of Ten draft picks. He wasn't just ignored through 5 rounds, the Browns ignored him 8 times before pulling the trigger. That's 8 players that probably have a better chance to make the final roster. IF he came in like a bolt of lightening, he would be getting reps in camp. Since the vets arrived, he has received zero reps in 7 on 7 or 11 on 11. That's telling also.

Maybe they are just trying to hide him from the world, but I don't think it is that simple.

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I think he fits the mold of "gadget QB" well in an emergency QB role the way Taysom Hill did for the Saints if he can be developed enough. But I see that more as a possible ceiling than I do the floor.


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I think he fits the mold of "gadget QB" well in an emergency QB role the way Taysom Hill did for the Saints if he can be developed enough. But I see that more as a possible ceiling than I do the floor.

Hill is part of the Saints 48 game day roster. The emergency QB dresses, but does absolutely nothing unless the medical team deems both QBs out for the game. He would have to take one of the 48 spots on game day to be used as a gadget QB.

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I get that. I meant his role at the QB position as it would pertain to his play.


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You are confusing players already on the practice squad and those who are cut before or at the final cutdowns.

I agree. He keeps the signing bonus and there is a per diem for time spent with the team through camp. I doubt he has any guarantees above and beyond that. I also agree that if he clears waivers, we could sign him back to the practice squad. He can also elect to sign elsewhere.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
You are confusing players already on the practice squad and those who are cut before or at the final cutdowns.

I agree. He keeps the signing bonus and there is a per diem for time spent with the team through camp. I doubt he has any guarantees above and beyond that. I also agree that if he clears waivers, we could sign him back to the practice squad. He can also elect to sign elsewhere.

I'm not the one confused, you are the one that said if he is waived he is a free agent with no NFL contract... That is inaccurate. During the waiver process, his contract follows him to the new team if they claim him off waivers. There is no negotiating, nor can he refuse to "sign a contract". He already signed the contract, he would just be playing on another team.

The rest would come if he clears waivers...THEN he becomes a free agent and can sign anywhere he pleases to the 53 man or the practice squad. Once he signs to a practice squad he can't be taken by another team for their practice squad, he would have to be signed to the 53 man roster.

It's cut and dry, there isn't any confusion..

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