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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump will deliver a primetime address this week that he says will include a focus on elections, suggesting he could revisit long-debunked conspiracy theories about his 2020 defeat to Democrat Joe Biden. The speech comes as he’s escalated calls for Republicans to pass tighter federal voting rules for November’s midterm elections.

The Republican president has been guarded about what he plans to say in the 9 p.m. Thursday speech, scheduled as he confronts a collapsing deal to end the war with Iran. He also faces numerous domestic issues, including recent deadly shootings by Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers. Asked for a preview of the speech on Tuesday, Trump offered scant detail but said he has “really big news.”

“It doesn’t get bigger, because without free and fair elections, you don’t have a country,” Trump said in the Oval Office. He refused to go further, saying he wanted to “save it” for the moment, though he also hinted he would be talking about a hodgepodge of issues.

“We’ll be discussing other things, too,” Trump said, without elaborating. “It’s going to be a very big announcement.”

Trump has used the power of the primetime presidential address — typically reserved for milestones — to deliver politically charged speeches before, including one in December when he sought to blame the challenging economic climate on Democrats. But Thursday’s address seems poised to go even further, using the moment to amplify election lies before an audience of millions in an effort to boost Republican prospects before midterms that threaten to hobble Trump for the remainder of his term.

On Monday, when asked about the speech, Trump repeated baseless claims of voter fraud in the Los Angeles primary race for mayor. During the interview with conservative outlet Newsmax, Trump said Republican Spencer Pratt lost his primary bid because of fraud, citing in part California’s slow vote count.

Federal prosecutors said they were opening fraud investigations in the state last month after Trump drew attention to the claim.

The president’s preoccupation with voting fraud and election security dates back at least to 2016, when he refused to say whether he would accept defeat to Democrat Hillary Clinton. After he won, he convened a voting integrity commission to support his claims that widespread voter fraud cost him the popular vote, though the commission disbanded without uncovering any such evidence.

Four years later, after he lost the 2020 election to Biden, Trump again claimed cheating and zeroed in on the Democrat’s narrow win in Georgia. Trump called the state’s secretary of state and pressured him to “find 11,780 votes,” just enough votes to overturn Biden’s victory in the state. He, along with than a dozen allies, was indicted in the state though the charges were later dropped.

Repeated audits and reviews -- manyrun by Republicans, including Trump’s own then-attorney general -- have found no significant fraud occurred in 2020.

Before winning in 2024, Trump was again laying the groundwork to claim cheating if he lost. After returning to office, he stocked his administration with officials who back his false claims of 2020 election fraud.

Trump made voting regulation central in this term

Frequently declaring that he won the White House “three times,” Trump has made voting regulation a core issue during his second term, demanding legislation that would require voter ID and sharply limit mail-in voting. Facing midterm races that will decide control of Capitol Hill, Trump has stirred new claims to cast doubt on election results that could challenge his power in Washington.

Earlier this year, FBI agents raided elections offices in Fulton County, Georgia, seizing materials from the 2020 election. Tulsi Gabbard, then Trump’s director of national intelligence, traveled to Atlanta to oversee the execution of the search warrant.

Maryland Gov. Wes Moore, campaigning in Georgia for Democratic Sen. Jon Ossoff and governor’s candidate Keisha Lance Bottoms, smiled Tuesday when asked about Trump potentially rehashing the 2020 election in his national address.

He called it a strategy “for losers.”

“I think people are exhausted by having conversations about elections that happened six years ago, that we have the answer to,” Moore said. “He continues to bring this up because he cannot get out of his mind that he actually could have lost.”

Beyond Georgia, Trump has widely taken aim at states that allow voters to submit ballots by mail. Trump said he called a U.S. attorney in California and demanded scrutiny of the governor’s primary last month as votes were being counted.

Last week, Trump ousted the remaining members of the federal Election Assistance Commission, a bipartisan panel that resisted his efforts to require would-be voters to document their U.S. citizenship before registering.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-speech-elections-integrity-ea69e086380898546e58663d8fc5c6dc

This should be interesting....


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You started a thread to tell us Trump will be on TV this week?

A little weird, but okay.


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No, I posted this to show he will be talking about and it still obsessed with the 2020 election. And as a precursor for what he will try to claim and do before the mid term election. Pay attention next time.


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Trump can claim anything wants, what matters is indictments, arrests, trials and convictions.

He went to court 60 times and lost his ass. His lawyers were disbarred.

He has nothing.

If he want to blame anything on 2020, just a reminder that Trump was president then as well.

Tighter voting rules would likely help republicans more than democrats, that is the math game that is being played. Same as gerrymandering.


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It might be worth paying a little bit of attention to. It has been all over the internet and talked about on morning Joe that he might state that the two two democratic senators from Georgia were fraudulently elected and are illegitimate-I am sure he will make up some stupid reason that will be shot down in a couple court filings and then appealed to the SC.

Also, I could see plenty of lies about necessity for passing the save act, federalizing the elections.

He knows the house and possibly the senate are not looking good

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I wouldn't write things off as stupid until we hear what he says and offers. If you are already sure there isn't fraud, don't watch.

I think the proofs he might offer has to do with Georgia and Fulton county and LA country in the recent mayor elections. You have to admit that in the LA elections, the vast majority went to the 3rd place candidate. Bass won the popular vote but after the late returning mail-ins she and Pratt barely got a vote. The woman in 3rd place got all, to just barely edge Pratt for the general election bid.

Statically, that is next to impossible. The later returns should have at least somewhat mirrored the initial returns. Even if they say late returns are generally for democrats(I wonder why) Bass should have still received the majority of those votes, but she didn't.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I wouldn't write things off as stupid until we hear what he says and offers. If you are already sure there isn't fraud, don't watch.

So just ignore the president when he goes on national TV when you think he is once again for like the 1000th time to undermine the confidence in our elections?

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I think the proofs he might offer has to do with Georgia and Fulton county and LA country in the recent mayor elections. You have to admit that in the LA elections, the vast majority went to the 3rd place candidate. Bass won the popular vote but after the late returning mail-ins she and Pratt barely got a vote. The woman in 3rd place got all, to just barely edge Pratt for the general election bid.

You will see him do what he usually does. Make a lot of accusations and state things as facts while offering no actual evidence to support it.

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Statically, that is next to impossible. The later returns should have at least somewhat mirrored the initial returns. Even if they say late returns are generally for democrats(I wonder why) Bass should have still received the majority of those votes, but she didn't.

You wonder why? Because it's mainly democrats who vote by mail as it usually always is. Why do you think trump is trying so hard to stop mail in voting? And if you think it's because of election fraud he has you fooled. Which it appears he does.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
You wonder why? Because it's mainly democrats who vote by mail as it usually always is. Why do you think trump is trying so hard to stop mail in voting? And if you think it's because of election fraud he has you fooled. Which it appears he does.

You missed the context of his post. He's asking how Nithya Raman got the overwhelming amount of late mail-in votes when Bass was the clear leader at the actual polls.

Bass got 65% more votes than Raman at the polls.
Raman got 15% more votes than Bass with the late mail-in ballots.

These were obviously all democratic voters we're talking about, so that seems like a HUGE mathematical anomaly.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I wouldn't write things off as stupid until we hear what he says and offers. If you are already sure there isn't fraud, don't watch.

I think the proofs he might offer has to do with Georgia and Fulton county and LA country in the recent mayor elections. You have to admit that in the LA elections, the vast majority went to the 3rd place candidate. Bass won the popular vote but after the late returning mail-ins she and Pratt barely got a vote. The woman in 3rd place got all, to just barely edge Pratt for the general election bid.

Statically, that is next to impossible. The later returns should have at least somewhat mirrored the initial returns. Even if they say late returns are generally for democrats(I wonder why) Bass should have still received the majority of those votes, but she didn't.
Trump is an idiot that continually lies and promotes conspiracy theories to fit his narrative.
And you could also read any ruling from any court and you will get your answer

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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I wouldn't write things off as stupid until we hear what he says and offers. If you are already sure there isn't fraud, don't watch.

I think the proofs he might offer has to do with Georgia and Fulton county and LA country in the recent mayor elections. You have to admit that in the LA elections, the vast majority went to the 3rd place candidate. Bass won the popular vote but after the late returning mail-ins she and Pratt barely got a vote. The woman in 3rd place got all, to just barely edge Pratt for the general election bid.

Statically, that is next to impossible. The later returns should have at least somewhat mirrored the initial returns. Even if they say late returns are generally for democrats(I wonder why) Bass should have still received the majority of those votes, but she didn't.
Trump is an idiot that continually lies and promotes conspiracy theories to fit his narrative.
And you could also read any ruling from any court and you will get your answer

You quoted a post you didn't even read??

Where did he say anything about Trump?


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I wouldn't write things off as stupid until we hear what he says and offers.

If he somehow comes off his usual script that he has for elections (which is to make baseless claims that either go nowhere or make it in front of a judge only to be laughed out of the courtroom) then I will be pleasantly surprised.

If your fraud radar goes off because a MAGA Republican doesn't get votes in Los Angeles, then I feel very sorry for you. That is a STRESSFUL life to live.


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Re: Trump will speak on elections in primetime address after pushing debunked conspiracies

Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I wouldn't write things off as stupid until we hear what he says and offers.


Originally Posted by FATE
Where did he say anything about Trump?

I believe this would be where Ballpeen is talking about Trump and what Trump will says/offers.


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Re: Trump will speak on elections in primetime address after pushing debunked conspiracies

Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I wouldn't write things off as stupid until we hear what he says and offers.


Originally Posted by FATE
Where did he say anything about Trump?

I believe this would be where Ballpeen is talking about Trump and what Trump will say/offers.


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Would you please report the areas the bulk of those votes came from that were counted the latest and the strength of support by each candidate in those specific areas?

General accusations with no evidence with which to support them is all the rage these days.

Bass defeated Raman which shows the polls were right all along. Pratt, the republican is who she beat. That's the only problem here.

I find it very odd how so many Republicans in general point out just how flawed and inaccurate they claim polls are. How they're rarely ever right and you can't pay attention to them. Then suddenly when something comes along to substantiate their point they call it "a HUGE mathematical anomaly".


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You find a lot of things odd. In this case, grade school-level mathematics.


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I guess my question is - is there really ANYONE on the planet that believes Trump won the 2020 election?

Everything else is posturing and trolling.


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Originally Posted by FATE
You find a lot of things odd. In this case, grade school-level mathematics.

Well I must give you credit, you are trying to use grade school-level mathematics. Raw data with no context certainly qualifies.

Maybe it's that grade school level thinking that makes them ignore the facts and act so insulted by it............

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I find it very odd how so many Republicans in general point out just how flawed and inaccurate they claim polls are. How they're rarely ever right and you can't pay attention to them. Then suddenly when something comes along to substantiate their point they call it "a HUGE mathematical anomaly".

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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I wouldn't write things off as stupid until we hear what he says and offers. If you are already sure there isn't fraud, don't watch.

I think the proofs he might offer has to do with Georgia and Fulton county and LA country in the recent mayor elections. You have to admit that in the LA elections, the vast majority went to the 3rd place candidate. Bass won the popular vote but after the late returning mail-ins she and Pratt barely got a vote. The woman in 3rd place got all, to just barely edge Pratt for the general election bid.

Statically, that is next to impossible. The later returns should have at least somewhat mirrored the initial returns. Even if they say late returns are generally for democrats(I wonder why) Bass should have still received the majority of those votes, but she didn't.

Anecdotal circumstance in an election 6 years after the 2020 election is not proof of anything that could be used in support of a 2020 claim.

What is whataboutism at its finest...


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