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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump will deliver a primetime address this week that he says will include a focus on elections, suggesting he could revisit long-debunked conspiracy theories about his 2020 defeat to Democrat Joe Biden. The speech comes as he’s escalated calls for Republicans to pass tighter federal voting rules for November’s midterm elections.

The Republican president has been guarded about what he plans to say in the 9 p.m. Thursday speech, scheduled as he confronts a collapsing deal to end the war with Iran. He also faces numerous domestic issues, including recent deadly shootings by Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers. Asked for a preview of the speech on Tuesday, Trump offered scant detail but said he has “really big news.”

“It doesn’t get bigger, because without free and fair elections, you don’t have a country,” Trump said in the Oval Office. He refused to go further, saying he wanted to “save it” for the moment, though he also hinted he would be talking about a hodgepodge of issues.

“We’ll be discussing other things, too,” Trump said, without elaborating. “It’s going to be a very big announcement.”

Trump has used the power of the primetime presidential address — typically reserved for milestones — to deliver politically charged speeches before, including one in December when he sought to blame the challenging economic climate on Democrats. But Thursday’s address seems poised to go even further, using the moment to amplify election lies before an audience of millions in an effort to boost Republican prospects before midterms that threaten to hobble Trump for the remainder of his term.

On Monday, when asked about the speech, Trump repeated baseless claims of voter fraud in the Los Angeles primary race for mayor. During the interview with conservative outlet Newsmax, Trump said Republican Spencer Pratt lost his primary bid because of fraud, citing in part California’s slow vote count.

Federal prosecutors said they were opening fraud investigations in the state last month after Trump drew attention to the claim.

The president’s preoccupation with voting fraud and election security dates back at least to 2016, when he refused to say whether he would accept defeat to Democrat Hillary Clinton. After he won, he convened a voting integrity commission to support his claims that widespread voter fraud cost him the popular vote, though the commission disbanded without uncovering any such evidence.

Four years later, after he lost the 2020 election to Biden, Trump again claimed cheating and zeroed in on the Democrat’s narrow win in Georgia. Trump called the state’s secretary of state and pressured him to “find 11,780 votes,” just enough votes to overturn Biden’s victory in the state. He, along with than a dozen allies, was indicted in the state though the charges were later dropped.

Repeated audits and reviews -- manyrun by Republicans, including Trump’s own then-attorney general -- have found no significant fraud occurred in 2020.

Before winning in 2024, Trump was again laying the groundwork to claim cheating if he lost. After returning to office, he stocked his administration with officials who back his false claims of 2020 election fraud.

Trump made voting regulation central in this term

Frequently declaring that he won the White House “three times,” Trump has made voting regulation a core issue during his second term, demanding legislation that would require voter ID and sharply limit mail-in voting. Facing midterm races that will decide control of Capitol Hill, Trump has stirred new claims to cast doubt on election results that could challenge his power in Washington.

Earlier this year, FBI agents raided elections offices in Fulton County, Georgia, seizing materials from the 2020 election. Tulsi Gabbard, then Trump’s director of national intelligence, traveled to Atlanta to oversee the execution of the search warrant.

Maryland Gov. Wes Moore, campaigning in Georgia for Democratic Sen. Jon Ossoff and governor’s candidate Keisha Lance Bottoms, smiled Tuesday when asked about Trump potentially rehashing the 2020 election in his national address.

He called it a strategy “for losers.”

“I think people are exhausted by having conversations about elections that happened six years ago, that we have the answer to,” Moore said. “He continues to bring this up because he cannot get out of his mind that he actually could have lost.”

Beyond Georgia, Trump has widely taken aim at states that allow voters to submit ballots by mail. Trump said he called a U.S. attorney in California and demanded scrutiny of the governor’s primary last month as votes were being counted.

Last week, Trump ousted the remaining members of the federal Election Assistance Commission, a bipartisan panel that resisted his efforts to require would-be voters to document their U.S. citizenship before registering.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-speech-elections-integrity-ea69e086380898546e58663d8fc5c6dc

This should be interesting....

You started a thread to tell us Trump will be on TV this week?

A little weird, but okay.

No, I posted this to show he will be talking about and it still obsessed with the 2020 election. And as a precursor for what he will try to claim and do before the mid term election. Pay attention next time.

Trump can claim anything wants, what matters is indictments, arrests, trials and convictions.

He went to court 60 times and lost his ass. His lawyers were disbarred.

He has nothing.

If he want to blame anything on 2020, just a reminder that Trump was president then as well.

Tighter voting rules would likely help republicans more than democrats, that is the math game that is being played. Same as gerrymandering.

It might be worth paying a little bit of attention to. It has been all over the internet and talked about on morning Joe that he might state that the two two democratic senators from Georgia were fraudulently elected and are illegitimate-I am sure he will make up some stupid reason that will be shot down in a couple court filings and then appealed to the SC.

Also, I could see plenty of lies about necessity for passing the save act, federalizing the elections.

He knows the house and possibly the senate are not looking good

I wouldn't write things off as stupid until we hear what he says and offers. If you are already sure there isn't fraud, don't watch.

I think the proofs he might offer has to do with Georgia and Fulton county and LA country in the recent mayor elections. You have to admit that in the LA elections, the vast majority went to the 3rd place candidate. Bass won the popular vote but after the late returning mail-ins she and Pratt barely got a vote. The woman in 3rd place got all, to just barely edge Pratt for the general election bid.

Statically, that is next to impossible. The later returns should have at least somewhat mirrored the initial returns. Even if they say late returns are generally for democrats(I wonder why) Bass should have still received the majority of those votes, but she didn't.

So just ignore the president when he goes on national TV when you think he is once again for like the 1000th time to undermine the confidence in our elections?


You will see him do what he usually does. Make a lot of accusations and state things as facts while offering no actual evidence to support it.


You wonder why? Because it's mainly democrats who vote by mail as it usually always is. Why do you think trump is trying so hard to stop mail in voting? And if you think it's because of election fraud he has you fooled. Which it appears he does.

You missed the context of his post. He's asking how Nithya Raman got the overwhelming amount of late mail-in votes when Bass was the clear leader at the actual polls.

Bass got 65% more votes than Raman at the polls.
Raman got 15% more votes than Bass with the late mail-in ballots.

These were obviously all democratic voters we're talking about, so that seems like a HUGE mathematical anomaly.

Trump is an idiot that continually lies and promotes conspiracy theories to fit his narrative.
And you could also read any ruling from any court and you will get your answer

You quoted a post you didn't even read??

Where did he say anything about Trump?

If he somehow comes off his usual script that he has for elections (which is to make baseless claims that either go nowhere or make it in front of a judge only to be laughed out of the courtroom) then I will be pleasantly surprised.

If your fraud radar goes off because a MAGA Republican doesn't get votes in Los Angeles, then I feel very sorry for you. That is a STRESSFUL life to live.

Re: Trump will speak on elections in primetime address after pushing debunked conspiracies




I believe this would be where Ballpeen is talking about Trump and what Trump will says/offers.

Would you please report the areas the bulk of those votes came from that were counted the latest and the strength of support by each candidate in those specific areas?

General accusations with no evidence with which to support them is all the rage these days.

Bass defeated Raman which shows the polls were right all along. Pratt, the republican is who she beat. That's the only problem here.

I find it very odd how so many Republicans in general point out just how flawed and inaccurate they claim polls are. How they're rarely ever right and you can't pay attention to them. Then suddenly when something comes along to substantiate their point they call it "a HUGE mathematical anomaly".

You find a lot of things odd. In this case, grade school-level mathematics.

I guess my question is - is there really ANYONE on the planet that believes Trump won the 2020 election?

Everything else is posturing and trolling.

Well I must give you credit, you are trying to use grade school-level mathematics. Raw data with no context certainly qualifies.

Maybe it's that grade school level thinking that makes them ignore the facts and act so insulted by it............

Anecdotal circumstance in an election 6 years after the 2020 election is not proof of anything that could be used in support of a 2020 claim.

What is whataboutism at its finest...

US networks face dilemma over whether to air Trump's election security speech

NEW YORK, July 16 (Reuters) - U.S. television networks are weighing whether to carry a ​planned primetime address on Thursday by President Donald Trump, who is expected to focus his remarks on election security, ‌four months before critical midterm elections.

Networks have historically carried most such speeches on the grounds that they provide information of public importance.

The White House is considering using the speech to disclose sensitive intelligence related to China's intention or ability to interfere in the 2020 U.S. election, Reuters reported on Wednesday, which some Trump ​officials worry could be misleading.

During a Thursday press briefing, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said that “it is also very ​possible” Trump will mention the current situation with Iran and the economy at the top of the ⁠speech, and could possibly address a range of topics.

She said that is “all the more reason” for the networks to carry the speech ​live, and for Americans to tune in.

Trump has spent years sowing doubts about electoral outcomes, falsely claiming his 2020 loss to Democrat Joe Biden ​was rigged. He has also claimed without evidence that mail-in voting is rife with fraud, voting machines are vulnerable to manipulation and non-citizen voting is widespread.

Some Democrats, including U.S. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, have urged networks not to air the speech, arguing Trump is likely to repeat debunked claims.

Spokespeople for the three major ​U.S. networks -- ABC, CBS and NBC -- did not respond to Reuters questions about whether they planned to carry the address live. CNN ​and Fox News (FOXA.O), opens new tab also did not respond to a request for comment.

Declining to air the speech would risk angering an administration that has already placed ‌unprecedented pressure ⁠on the major broadcast networks.

Walt Disney (DIS.N), opens new tab- owned ABC is facing two pending inquiries from the Federal Communications Commission, including one examining whether its daytime talk show "The View" violated equal-time rules by interviewing a Democratic Senate candidate in Texas.

Trump has repeatedly attacked NBC and its parent company, Comcast (CMCSA.O), opens new tab, which he has dubbed "Concast." Last month he stormed out of an interview with NBC political reporter Kristen Welker after calling the network "a one-sided ​crooked network."

Comcast last month announced plans to ​split into two publicly traded ⁠companies through a spinoff of NBCUniversal and Sky. Analysts have said the move could make NBCUniversal an attractive takeover target.

At CBS, the takeover of Paramount (PSKY.O), opens new tab by David Ellison, whose billionaire father Larry is a ​Trump ally, has roiled the newsroom and prompted the departure of senior staff from the news magazine "60 ​Minutes". Some employees ⁠have alleged political interference in editorial decisions, which the network has denied.

Ellison is now awaiting FCC approval for Paramount's acquisition of Warner Bros. Discovery, which could give him control of CNN, a network Trump has long criticized for what he says is unfair coverage. The U.S. Justice Department's Antitrust ⁠Division gave ​its blessing to the deal last month.

The conservative-leaning cable news network Fox News, ​owned by Rupert Murdoch, generally carries all of Trump's speeches but may also be wary of this one.

In 2023, the network had to pay out $787 million to settle a defamation ​suit over its airing of false claims about the 2020 election.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/gover...mps-election-security-speech-2026-07-16/

Who do you think peen is talking about in the first line? Mickey Mouse

I don’t know if he talked about debunked conspiracy theories. I couldn’t last through the first sentences he spoke.

Trump doubles down on US election attacks in his primetime speech

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump used a primetime address to the nation Thursday to elevate his yearslong push to raise doubts about the legitimacy of U.S. elections and dispute his 2020 loss in an appeal for more restrictive voting laws ahead of the midterms.

Trump’s amplification of debunked theories about the election six years ago and his inability to accept his loss led to one of the darker moments in American history when a mob of his supporters led a violent attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, in the final days of his first term.

Now back in power, Trump opted to revisit the subject, despite persistent voter concerns about the cost of living, American forces escalating strikes on Iran in a conflict for which there is no end in sight, and an immigration crackdown facing bipartisan scrutiny for its sometimes deadly tactics.

His address Thursday hinged on contradictions.

A twice-elected president complained about his one personal defeat, alleged a cover-up by officials in his own first administration and surfaced claims about countries attempting to harm his own prospects while staying silent on steps taken by other nations to boost him.

Trump used the remarks to justify his push to pass a strict voter ID bill in Congress that has not advanced because it lacks enough support from his fellow Republicans.

“America is back and doing really well, but we still have a major challenge that must be urgently addressed, because no country can be great without fair and honest elections,” he said.

Trump doesn’t raise doubts about his election wins

Trump began Thursday night with a stark warning about what he described as flaws in the voting system and said he was releasing previously classified documents related to the 2020 and 2018 elections, when he lost the presidential election and when his party suffered losses.

Trump’s speech presented allegations of interference and influence in ways that lacked key context and did not produce evidence that votes had been manipulated or that the election outcome had been altered.

Notably, Trump focused on China but glossed over Russia, a country that intelligence officials have said favored Trump in 2016 and 2020 and engaged in wide-ranging influence campaigns aimed at boosting him over Democrat Joe Biden in the latter campaign.

Despite focusing on China in his speech, Trump did not criticize or issue a warning to Chinese President Xi Jinping, whom he has long praised.

Election security experts say America’s decentralized voting system, with the power over elections residing with the states instead of the federal government, is a strength. Americans vote in more than 10,000 different jurisdictions with different rules, making the nations’ elections extraordinarily complicated but safe from widespread fraud.

No credible intelligence has emerged showing that the vote count in 2020 was manipulated by foreign actors. Repeated audits and reviews -- manyrun by Republicans, including Trump’s own then-attorney general -- have found no significant fraud occurred in 2020.

Even if substantiated, Trump’s claims did not amount to conduct that would have altered the outcome of any race, let alone the 2020 race for the White House.

He also did not raise doubts about his election wins in 2016 or 2024.

As Trump spoke, the White House unveiled a website containing documents that were presented without context and included selectively released pieces of investigation files, intelligence analysis and correspondence.

Former intelligence official calls address ‘dangerous’

Sue Gordon, principal deputy director of national intelligence in Trump’s first term, called the president’s address “a dangerous speech about an incredibly important topic.” She said the intelligence community throughout Trump’s first term was alarmed about foreign interference in elections, but Trump scoffed at them, angered at the investigation of his campaign’s relationship with Russia.

“He had an entire term to deal with it and I don’t know how you can believe how the same community that told him about it, that was excoriated about it” wouldn’t warn him in 2020, Gordon said on CNN.

Conservative commentator John Solomon, who joined the White House staff last month and was seated in the East Room for Trump’s speech, later told MS NOW that “the intelligence community has zero evidence that someone has flipped – that a foreign power flipped -- a vote in 2020, ‘22 or ’24.”

But, he added, “We’re not through all the documents.”

Trump urged the Justice Department to conduct investigations and prosecutions, though it was unclear from his speech what sort of criminal conduct — if any — could be identified, proven and charged.

In a contrast with his concerns about foreign interference in elections, Trump in his new budget proposes a $707 million cut in the U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency, the group charged with protecting American election systems from overseas cyberattacks. Trump and other conservatives have been frustrated that the organization pushed back on election claims in 2020 and beyond.

Some networks did not air it live

In past presidencies, primetime addresses have typically been reserved for major milestones or nationally significant events.

Trump last spoke to the nation in April, giving an address on the Iran war a month after it started. He said then that the U.S. would accomplish its objectives “very shortly” and that “the hard part is done, so it should be easy.” The war, however, has dragged on and strikes between the U.S. and Iran have intensified this week.

Trump also delivered a politically charged primetime speech in December in which he sought to blame the challenging economic climate on Democrats.

ABC, NBC and CNN did not air Thursday’s remarks live but carried them in full on their streaming services.

CBS and MS NOW both cut away from Trump’s speech before he finished, while Fox News continued to carry his address.

Trump called out the media outlets for not carrying it live, accused them of being “part of a plot” and suggested their broadcast licenses be revoked.

Networks typically — but not always — carry presidential addresses to the nation live. In 2022, when Biden delivered a primetime address full of warnings about Trump and his adherents’ “extreme ideology,” the networks did not carry it live.

In 2014, the major networks chose to stick with their primetime programming instead of airing an address by President Barack Obama on his plans for immigration reform.

Democrats accuse Trump of seeking to discredit next election

Democrats warned that Trump was trying to revive false claims of past stolen elections in order to delegitimize the 2026 midterm elections, in which Trump’s Republican Party is facing headwinds.

Democratic Sen. Mark Warner of Virginia called Trump’s claims “totally bogus.”

“The fact is our intelligence agencies unanimously agreed that China did not even try to change a single vote in the 2020 election,” Warner said in a statement on X. “A single concurring opinion suggested China may have tried to sway voters’ opinions … but that’s been public knowledge since 2021.”

Rep. Joseph Morelle of New York, the ranking Democrat on the administration committee that handles federal voting issues and elections, said Trump is trying to sow confusion before the midterm elections.

“This is a pretext for the president, I think, calling into dispute the 2026 elections,” Morelle said on C-SPAN, adding that “we have secure elections.”

“I heard no concrete allegations that foreign actors actually changed the results of an American election,” Democratic Sen. Chris Coons of Delaware said on CNN.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-primetime-address-elections-5c84a59dffc20c12ed2fcb822fa950c9

Donald Trump: 'I just want to find 11,780 votes’

The Washington Post has released a recording of US President Donald Trump telling Georgia's top election official to "find" enough votes to overturn the election result.

"I just want to find 11,780 votes," he told Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger.

In the full recording, Mr Raffensperger is heard replying that Georgia's results were correct.

Mr Biden won Georgia alongside other swing states, winning 306 electoral college votes to his Mr Trump's 232.

Since the 3 November vote, Mr Trump has been alleging widespread electoral fraud without providing any evidence.

So it seems according to trump when both Obama and Biden were president the 2016 and 2024 elections were fair but the election that took place while trump was president in 2020 was rigged and stolen? I'm not sure I would want to admit that if I were him. I wonder what that means about the 2026 and 2028 elections? After all, he only thinks an election was rigged when he was president.

It's not even worth playing that game .... it's only Trumptards and people who seriously have no brain that believe the 2020 election was "stolen". There is overwhelming concrete proof that there is no mass voter fraud that can change the result of elections. It's scare tactic to get the MAGA tards to froth at the mouth and get all emotional about it.

Or to make Jan. 6th look like a blip on the radar screen in comparison to what we will see if Democrats take back control of the House.

In all honesty I see the stage being set for Republican controlled states to refuse certifying the 2026 election results in states where they lose the election.

I'm no fan of Trump. I think what he's done with his second term is fairly despicable. But nothing we can't recover from and move on from.

If what you just wrote came to fruition it would be the beginning of the end. Putin would be laughing so so hard we would hear him in Alaska.

I don't see him giving speeches with no end goal in mind. We certainly saw how that played out on Jan. 6th. of 2021. Even in your own post you described what he was doing as getting his base to "froth at the mouth and get all emotional about it". That sounds so familiar.

I can't speak to how campaign ads are going in other states. But if I had to venture a guess I would say on the Republican side where candidates who won strongly supported trump it's most likely as it is here. Here in Tennessee their campaign ads look like they're trying to convince their voters that they're the trumpiest trumpains to have ever supported trump. I don't see it being an issue here. After the redistricting they pretty much insured no democrat could win the bid for the house and the senate. Even before that the only places to elect Democrats were heavily blue areas of the state who nobody expected Republicans to win anyway.

But in states where Republicans hold the majority of their statehouse, those purple states and districts that are heavily contested, I see withholding the certification of this election where democrats win a very real and strong possibility.

Too many times I've heard people make the claim that trump was just kidding, that nobody took what he said seriously or he was just saying things to own the libs. Then not long after those the very things he said, he did. And those riding his coattails followed his every wish. Supported his every move no matter what. Or as we see regularly on this very board, just ignored it all together.

At this point I'm not taking anything for granted.