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There is a lot of resistance to the Republicans and it is discussed in dozens of threads. I'd rather hear from those so opposed to the Republicans or President to tell me why the Dems/Socialists are so attractive? What policies do you see as being of great benefit to America? I hear a lot of complaining and general comments about affordability etc, but I must be missing the policies they propose to fix things.

Off the cuff and on my phone.... But.

Not start wars.
Not remove other heads of state.
Foster closer relations with our western allies.
Treat Putin like the threat he is, instead of rolling out the red carpet for him and inviting him to summits he's not wanted at by everyone else.
Acknowledge the risks of AI.
Acknowledge the risk of climate change.
Stop artificially propping up dying industry like Coal. If you believe in the free market then let it play out.
Protect the environment.
Stop looking like an ass clown renaming things and geography.
Uphold law and order and not use the DoJ like a hitman.
Uphold the constitution and respect Congress and the Senate.


Listen to Jon Ossoff..... He's how I want my president to sound like.

Are the democrats perfect? Hell no. Do they have all the answers? No. But it's a choice.... Nice of you to try to not include what Trump has and is doing... But that is definitely part of the discussion and comparison.

Oh, I can include it. I am more interersted in what platform and policies have the Dems proposed. You mention a lot of generic things but I don't want your opinion. I want to see what programs are being proposed. What are the Dems proposing to fulfill some of the things you mention?

The President as an example implemented no tax on tips and overtime for working people. Not a Dem, including your John Ossof voted for that so when you say the Dems are for working people, I'd say you are full of crap, or at least they are. Is reducing the tax on the working class a bad thing? You might like the way Ossof sounds, but he sure doesn't support working people. You support that?

For those of you with young children, have you them signed up for their Trump account? Free money and a way to get your child/grandchild started with owning a piece of the American dream. Everybody should be invested in America.

LOL - can't do a national health service like every other industrialized nation on the planet !!! Because "Nothing is free" ... but here you are comrade - promoting wealth redistribution on a different topic. Welcome to the dark side.

If you actually looked at the details you would find this entire "no tax on tips and overtime" isn't what it claims to be in the first place. And the things he isted are not "generic things".

Federal Payroll Taxes Remain: According to Fidelity, tips and overtime are still subject to Social Security and Medicare (payroll) taxes, contrary to total tax exemption claims.

Deduction Caps Apply: The Bipartisan Policy Center notes that the tip deduction is capped at $25,000, and the overtime deduction is limited to $12,500 of qualifying premium pay.

State and Local Taxes Apply: As reported by PBS NewsHour, most states still tax tips and overtime income because state tax codes do not automatically mirror the federal deductions.

Income and Time Limits: The Economic Policy Institute highlights that these provisions are temporary (tax years 2025 through 2028) and phase out for higher income earners (above $150,000 single / $300,000 joint).

It is certainly helpful and cuts down on taxes paid in. But at the same time it's not as trump and now yourself advertise it being.

Our relations with long time allies has been destroyed. Not only based on trade but on the fact trump just rips up any agreement he doesn't like that has been established and still in effect. We are no longer trusted to keep our word and agreements as a nation around the globe. That fits into the category of generic to you?

The last three wars we have entered into were started by Republican presidents. Wars fit into the category of generic to you?

Several of the top tech executives themselves have told us that AI is moving too fast and needs to be slowed down. Actually some have even warned it could be responsible for killing a billion and in some estimations billions of people at its current pace. AI has actually been committing cyber attacks all on its own. AI has been going rogue. That fits into the category of generic to you?

None of this is trivial. None of this is generic. The reason there is no legislation to prevent so much of this nonsense is because nobody could have ever imagined people would elect a president that did some of this idiotic BS and break every norm this nation has established for generations.

Here is some legislation that's been proposed for you.

• Restore the Affordable Care Act and fight for national healthcare.
• Stop planned cuts to Medicaid.
• Repeal recent government tariffs.
• Pass new voting rights protections.
• Address immigration and federal tax rules.

While I understand there are those of you who label anything and everything that helps the average American as "socialist or communist" that's an old, outdated bunch of BS propaganda. Senator Joe McCarthy was using that back in the early 50's.

According to that every democratically run government on earth that has national healthcare are nothing but communist countries. It's hard for me to believe that even you think that is true.

Let's be clear here. Here is how capitalism works. Major corporations wield major buying power and get a huge cut on the products they purchase by purchasing in bulk. The more you buy the more influence you have in pricing with your buying power. That's capitalism #101. Yet when it is proposed that our government uses that very same principal to drive down healthcare costs for all Americans you label it communism. Here is a comparison between us and other developed nations....................

The United States spends the most on healthcare per capita among developed nations, reaching approximately $14,885 per person, which is more than double the OECD average.

• United States: $14,885
• Switzerland: $9,963
• Germany: $9,365
• Norway & Other Top Spenders: $9,300–$10,000 range
• OECD Average: Nearly $6,000
• Wealthy Country Average (Excluding U.S.): $7,371

On one hand we hear Republicans say one reason they voted for trump is because he is a "successful businessman".

Then in the next breath when you say if we used the bargaining power of every person living in The United States to greatly reduce the cost of all prescription drugs, medical tests and services, hospitalizations and surgeries we're a bunch of communists?

Then there's one thing I would like for you to explain. How can Republicans do what they claim in cutting the national debt when they cut taxes, which is the nations income, while they keep spending like a bunch of drunken sailors? That math has never added up yet your party keep selling it to the voters.

And the accounts are already set up for them... anyone under 18... all you have to do is claim and fund them.

Someone in the family recently adopted two "young-ins". We flooded the courthouse on adoption day. After the process, at dinner, anothther family member brought up the Trump accounts... you could hear a pin drop (mother's family hates Trump)... "no, we'll probably just start an IRA for them, it's the same thing". No, it's not, and you can't unless they're earning an income.

Oh well, they probably hate Trump too much to make sure their kids have 1-3 million at retirement.

This is an absolute gamechanger and will be one of Trump's biggest accomplishments (my opinion, of course). I've claimed my grandchildren's and am maxing them for the next two years.



I have no words.

There were already better options available than a trump account and still are. It's not a "game changer" by any means.............

While claiming the government’s $1,000 seed money for eligible children is a smart move, Trump Accounts (530A accounts) cap contributions at $5,000 annually and treat withdrawals as ordinary income, making other vehicles better for specific goals.

529 College Savings Plans

✅ Best for: Education and flexible family savings.

• Tax Advantage: Tax-free growth and tax-free withdrawals for qualified education expenses.
• Contribution Limits: Much higher state-specific caps with no rigid $5,000 annual ceiling.
• Flexibility: Can roll up to $35,000 into a Roth IRA for the child or transfer funds to other family members.

Why it beats Trump Accounts: Superior tax perks and robust age-based diversified portfolios.

Custodial Roth IRA for Minors

✅ Best for: Long-term wealth and early retirement staging.

• Tax Advantage: Completely tax-free growth and tax-free qualified withdrawals.
• Requirement: The minor must have verifiable earned income (e.g., from a babysitting or formal job).
• Why it beats Trump Accounts: Earnings are entirely tax-free rather than taxed as ordinary income upon distribution.

⚖️ UGMA / UTMA Custodial Accounts

✅ Best for: Flexible major purchases before or at adulthood (first car, non-college expenses).

• Tax Advantage: Standard taxable brokerage, but first portions of unearned income enjoy minor tax brackets.
• Flexibility: Broad investment choices (individual stocks, mutual funds) with zero contribution limits.
• Why it beats Trump Accounts: No withdrawal lock-ups until age 18 or traditional retirement penalties.

But hey, I guess if having the name trump attached to it is more important to you, have at it.