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We can break them down mentally by flooding their airwaves with old reruns of US shows like Andy Griffin and Leave it to Beaver.
Who is Andy Griffin?
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Pdawg, it's Andy Griffith. 
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Opah's dad.
No he's a Zulu isn't he? Andy was Good 'ol Boy. No possible relation. 
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You may be right about that, but let me ask everyone this. Do you think we would ever see this headline.
"Ching to be first Chinese referee in Super Bowl?"
No, which really is inconsistent because America has done terrible things to China in the past
Whites have done terrible things to every race on the planet. Why does one refuse to forgive and forget?
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Once the world goes up in flames - and it will happen, possibly in our lifetime - race and religion won't much matter. Humans are simply too greedy & stupid to keep this planet going.
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You may be right about that, but let me ask everyone this. Do you think we would ever see this headline.
"Ching to be first Chinese referee in Super Bowl?"
No, which really is inconsistent because America has done terrible things to China in the past
Whites have done terrible things to every race on the planet.
As have every other race.
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Yes, every race has done terrible things to every other race. I want to know why one refuses to forgive and forget. Why is it that only one race points out the first time a member does something the first time. Does every other race not get it that pointing out that whitey isn't keeping them down the best thing to do, or has every other race figured out quietly celebrating is the best route?
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Yes, every race has done terrible things to every other race.
And in the end, the winner is always viewed as the most evil and the one that should feel the most guilt and remorse. I hope that answers your question.
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And they still are to this day in many parts of the African continent. The only difference is that it isn't "whites" doing it.
Eaxctly my point...it has very little to do with race and everything to do with economic status and oppression and things of that nature.
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If you really want to tell the truth, you'll acknowledge that it isn't the US, or the west who does the most damage to Muslim peoples. It is Muslim leaders and Muslim warlords who rose to power who do the most damage to Muslims.
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OK ..... leading into the Iraq/Afghanistan situations, what examples do you have?
Israel recieves a head-spinning amount of aid and support from us...they're also one of the world's leaders in human rights violations...the bulk of violence and terror comes from their end, yet we support them wholeheartedly...I'd certainly say that this is a form of oppression...just because you're funding and not doing it doesn't make your role any less.
We have bombed Iraq repeatedly for years before the war, we have military bases everywhere, and we've put crippling sanctions on countries while supporting others who are doing the same thing (Israel, Turkey, Morocco).
All of this is a discussion for another thread...my point was, they don't hate us because we're 'white' or Christian' or 'free'.
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No, because only one race tells me I'm the devil, the rest don't.
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wow so we r talking about Muslim people in this thread now  God i have started a monster 
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No, because only one race tells me I'm the devil, the rest don't.
Actually, more than one thinks that way, one just has a louder voice.
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All of this is a discussion for another thread
Yup. For once we agree.
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HOLY CRAP i didn't even realize i went over 3k posts cuz of this thread I would like to thank Carey for all he has done for me....and i can't forget god...he has always been there for me... 
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HOLY CRAP i didn't even realize i went over 3k posts cuz of this thread
I would like to thank Carey for all he has done for me....and i can't forget god...he has always been there for me...
First black man to reach 3000 posts?
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First black man to reach 3000 posts?
Ok, now that's pretty funny right there...
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Ok, here is something else I thought of regarding this whole referee thing... I'm sure he's a great ref, but what if he screws up? Everybody is entitled to a bad call or a bad game.. or a bad call which costs somebody the game.... what if he has one of those moments?
Now that it has been PR'd that he is the first black, how is that going to look? He won't be known as the ref that cost a team the superbowl, he will be known as the BLACK ref that cost a team the superbowl....
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HOLY CRAP i didn't even realize i went over 3k posts cuz of this thread
I would like to thank Carey for all he has done for me....and i can't forget god...he has always been there for me...
First black man to reach 3000 posts?
Change that to First BROWN man and you are correct sir
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Ok, here is something else I thought of regarding this whole referee thing... I'm sure he's a great ref, but what if he screws up? Everybody is entitled to a bad call or a bad game.. or a bad call which costs somebody the game.... what if he has one of those moments?
Now that it has been PR'd that he is the first black, how is that going to look? He won't be known as the ref that cost a team the superbowl, he will be known as the BLACK ref that cost a team the superbowl....
I hope that don't happen.
I am hoping for a good clean game, that way when the GIANTS beat the Patriots , they will not have an excuse.
But it would serve the "first black" this and that crowd right.
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I certainly hope it doesn't happen either.. but when you are put out there as not just representing yourself or the NFL but your whole race... when you screw up, it's going to reflect on your whole race... You can't have it both ways.
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I certainly hope it doesn't happen either.. but when you are put out there as not just representing yourself or the NFL but your whole race... when you screw up, it's going to reflect on your whole race... You can't have it both ways.
OK this one is a tough one...but u are correct...it will be "first black ref to screw up" but no 1 is going to say that cuz it's not PC..not only that by saying that one would imply he screwed up cuz he is black...which has nothing to do with it...he screwed up cuz refs do that sometimes..
THe problem with this is people thinking when we say the color is important that he got where he got cuz of his color..thati s not the case..i hope you follow that..so when he screws up it doesn't make much sense to blame ito n his color either
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I certainly hope it doesn't happen either.. but when you are put out there as not just representing yourself or the NFL but your whole race... when you screw up, it's going to reflect on your whole race... You can't have it both ways.
Yes, THEY can. In their minds anyway.
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THe problem with this is people thinking when we say the color is important that he got where he got cuz of his color..thati s not the case..i hope you follow that..
Oh, I follow that. It will further vindicate those who think he got the job because he's black... they will use it as ammuniton to say, "See, no way is he a top ref if he blew that call."
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I certainly hope it doesn't happen either.. but when you are put out there as not just representing yourself or the NFL but your whole race... when you screw up, it's going to reflect on your whole race... You can't have it both ways.
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Yes, THEY can. In their minds anyway.
OK this one is a tough one...but u are correct...it will be "first black ref to screw up" but no 1 is going to say that cuz it's not PC..not only that by saying that one would imply he screwed up cuz he is black...which has nothing to do with it...he screwed up cuz refs do that sometimes..
THe problem with this is people thinking when we say the color is important that he got where he got cuz of his color..thati s not the case..i hope you follow that..so when he screws up it doesn't make much sense to blame ito n his color either
See?
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THEY?  I don't think you have any minority friends do u? freakin' unbelieveable
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See what? i'm not sure how i proved your point..
I'm not going to get into this with you cuz you are the most ignorant poster in this thread...you have one POV ..and that is yours...
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I don't think you have any minority friends do u? freakin' unbelieveable
Yes, they. Certainly isn't us.
They, those that are all about the "first black" this or that crap.
I have several minority friends, from many different minorities. They know I am not a racist, I just call it as I see it.
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you have one POV ..and that is yours...
I guess we do have something in common. Because, I could also say...
"you have one POV ..and that is yours..."
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See what? i'm not sure how i proved your point..
I knew you wouldn't.
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I hope that don't happen.
I am hoping for a good clean game, that way when the GIANTS beat the Patriots , they will not have an excuse.
But it would serve the "first black" this and that crowd right.
Nice.  You may have a low self-esteem problem and so lash out at others over some idiotic little thing (like the topic of this thread).
Perhaps because you couldn't make the USMC?
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I hope that don't happen.
I am hoping for a good clean game, that way when the GIANTS beat the Patriots , they will not have an excuse.
But it would serve the "first black" this and that crowd right.
Nice. You may have a low self-esteem problem and so lash out at others over some idiotic little thing (like the topic of this thread).
Perhaps because you couldn't make the USMC?
Haven't had a problem being in the USMC the last 5 years.
So I am missing your point.
And maybe YOU have a low self esteem problem, wishing you were an American, instead of a foreigner who feels the need to belong among the great citizens in the U.S. Carey, black ref or not, at least he is American,
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They, those that are all about the "first black" this or that crap.
Stop sugar coating it man...
I still don't understand how it has ANYTHING to do with you...i don't know what gives you the right to say what THEY can do or not...if they want to be proud of a first black whatever who the hell are you to tell them they can't be? and they should be color blind?
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They, those that are all about the "first black" this or that crap.
Stop sugar coating it man...
I still don't understand how it has ANYTHING to do with you...i don't know what gives you the right to say what THEY can do or not...if they want to be proud of a first black whatever who the hell are you to tell them they can't be? and they should be color blind?
I have just as much of a right to say what I have to say as they do.
Should they be color blind? Yes, they want everyone else to be.
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Oh, touche, you DID make the USMC. Congratulations on that promotion.  Must be something else then. You are making a huge deal out of this entire issue when it really isn't warranted. So what if it's pointed out that Carey is the first black ref in the Super Bowl? It is a little bit of trivia, that is all...
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As for Carey, his mannerisms are designed to incite the crowd...either for good or ill....which I don't think needs to be part of the game, though I don't believe that my opinion on his gestures reflect my opinion on his credibility as a Ref.
But you knew that allready, didn't you
Reason why I had to point it out .... and ASK U A QUESTION ... was because U NEVER said weather he was a good or bad ref in your opinion .. and U know damm well he's one of the BEST ...
so I wanted to see U say that cause folks seem to listen to U alot more than they do me ... go figure .. *L* .. so i wanted to put your credibility behind carey because he is a VERY GOOD REF ....
and u managed to not answer the question YET AGAIN ... so please answer this question if u have made through all the BS in this thread ....
Do u believe carey is one of the best Ref's in the game??
Is he top 3, 5 or 10 or below that???
JUST ANSWER THE DAMM QUESTION .... please .... 
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This might be drastic...but let me give you an example
Do you like thoes anti war dumba$$es come to a soilders funeral and yell bad things?
Sure they have the RIGHT to say it...doesn't mean they should...that is exactly the kind of feeling one gets when ppl like you decide to "express your point of view" where it doesn't belong
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Oh, touche, you DID make the USMC. Congratulations on that promotion.
Must be something else then. You are making a huge deal out of this entire issue when it really isn't warranted. So what if it's pointed out that Carey is the first black ref in the Super Bowl? It is a little bit of trivia, that is all...
I am not the only one making a big deal about it.
Little bit of trivia....
Carey is the 1st black ref of a SB...
sure...
So is this...
US Navy Dawg doesn't give a crap if Carey is the 1st black ref of a SB.
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If that is all you are trying to tell us then great...i'm glad u don't care...
You said so much other stuff that got ppl talkin...not that u don't give a crap...
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