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I haven't really seen anything that points either way, Daman. I know he canceled his visit with the Saints and that he was supposed to meet with the Cardinals on Sunday (per www.kffl.com).
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Cleveland Browns to host Arizona LB Blackstock Posted by By Mary Kay Cabot March 03, 2008 13:47PM Linebacker Darryl Blackstock, a three-year veteran of the Arizona Cardinals who was not tendered by the team, will visit the Browns on Tuesday and work out here on Wednesday, a source said Monday. Blackstock (6-3, 244), a rush linebacker with experience in the 3-4 defense, would be familiar with Romeo Crennel's defense and philosophy. A third-round pick in 2005 out of Virginia, Blackstock played there under former Browns defensive assistant Al Groh, who coached with Crennel under Bill Parcells. Blackstop has been primarily a backup and special teams player in Arizona, but some scouts think he can develop into an every down player in the right system. Last season, he had 21 tackles, one forced fumble and three sacks. Miami and Cincinnati are also believed to be interested. Scouts Inc.'s analysis on ESPN.com said Blackstock "looks more effective going forward than he does dropping into coverage. He can be explosive with his first step and accelerates off the edge with a good burst of speed. He is active and not afraid to throw his body around with abandon.'' Blackstock's former team, the Cardinals, are hosting free agent rush linebacker Travis LaBoy, whom the Browns had hoped to sign when he was in town over the weekend. The Cardinals are expected to make a big push for him, but the Browns would still like to sign him. http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/2008/03/lb_blackstock_to_visit_browns.html
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We gotta get this guy for no other reason than his name is pretty cool, IMO. Blackstock...
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I'm really starting to wonder why we couldn't land LaBoy and now we're going for the guy he is about to replace in Arizona. 
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Well, nothing has been said that Laboy refused us. Maybe he's just seeing what other offers he can get before he makes a decision.
And, just because we're bringing a guy in for a visit doesn't mean we're definitely going to sign him.
Just sayin'...
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I'm really starting to wonder why we couldn't land LaBoy
There might be many reasons one might be he wanted outragous amount of money, Phil gives a fair contract but wont over pay what he believes is fair, and maybe Laboy wants to see Arizona and weight all his options before he signs, might not be anything we did or didnt do.
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Phil said in his presser the day before free agency, when asked, that it is generally true that once a FA visitor leaves he's probably not coming back.
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Well, that may be so. I'm just saying that it isn't a foregone conclusion that he won't sign with us. And, if he doesn't, to heck with him!
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I think LaBoy had some concussions problems?
If so the Browns don't need that kind of a risk.. Lets see if they like Blackstock..
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 Yeah, heck with him. You're right though, he could still sign.
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Blackstock's former team, the Cardinals, are hosting free agent rush linebacker Travis LaBoy, whom the Browns had hoped to sign when he was in town over the weekend. The Cardinals are expected to make a big push for him, but the Browns would still like to sign him.
http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/2008/03/lb_blackstock_to_visit_browns.html
The last line of the article. I'm not saying it's right, just written.
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I'm really starting to wonder why we couldn't land LaBoy and now we're going for the guy he is about to replace in Arizona.
Probably wants too much money. Given the outrageous contracts some of these GM's are giving out LaBoy is probably looking to cash in and Phil wasn't budging. Just a guess.
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The Cardinals website has a webcast about the LaBoy visit. Sounds like that is where he would like to be. Plus when they leave they usually do not come back.
I wonder if we will turn our attention to Odom who is visiting the Vikings today.
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Could explain him passing on a team in the HUNT.
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Blackstock was an OLB in Arizona but we may look at him as an ILB. He's not very good in coverage. He is well suited to stop the run.
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I wonder if we will turn our attention to Odom who is visiting the Vikings today.
Odom signed with the Bengals tonight. Well, at least that's how it looks right now. It might be off by later!
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I think LaBoy had some concussions problems?
If so the Browns don't need that kind of a risk.. Lets see if they like Blackstock..
Upon a bit of digging...I've seen at least 9 or 10 Titan fans state that he's one concussion away from retirement...
Maybe a good move here...At least we didn't get into that bidding thing and let him go much like Clements last year...
Once again Savage shows some restraint...
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This isn't necessarily meant for you. I find it funny that when we lose a guy to another team Phil is showing restraint. But when we get a guy Phil is a genius. I'd like that job. He can't lose.
As I recall Laboy was here talking for 2 days, or at least overnight, and everyone seemed pretty happy about it. Now he's a Card and he's one concussion away from retirement? Pretty funny if you ask me.
Just a word of caution....on the face of it I like all the moves we've made so far. But that doesn't mean any of these new guys is gonna play worth a damn come September. I think I'll wait awhile until I buy my Super Bowl tickets.........
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Funny how U trying to sound right now.. Did U know anything about Laboy? I didn't think so. Some of us do some research when we hear about players..others don't. He hadn't left when I heard about the concussions . Save the sarcasm for when U screw up in your point of view.. 
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i had no idea about the concussion history... but then again just about everyone is one hit away......
I was hoping for LaBoy, he was the first LB brought in by Savage- obviously they saw something in him that they thought would translate to the 3-4. Unfortunately, the value wasn't there. Arizona must have called when he was in negotiations with the browns, what he heard was enough for him to cancel the trip the New orleans and hit a flight to the desert. At the right price, which i would say is about half of what he signed for, it would have been nice to have him as a brown. Move on the plan B, the next tier of guys is for backups- doubt you can find a starter at this point. Blackstock is the next target- can't say i know much about him either, but as long as he can play special teams and a situational down every now and then i'm ok with it.
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Did U know anything about Laboy?
I didn't think so.
Some of us do some research when we hear about players..others don't.
He hadn't left when I heard about the concussions .
Save the sarcasm for when U screw up in your point of view..
He has a valid point. People do this crap all the time...So you don't...I'm happy for you. Since he didn't single you out I guess he might not have a problem with you. 
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And what do U do? Anything in particular?  I know..U're such a model poster.. Having some fun with U..  He had to be singling out people who just recently posted because he used their own words(restraint/genuis).. I've seen enough of what he does..so he might as well throw himself into a category also.. 
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I've seen enough of what he does..so he might as well throw himself into a category also..
I don't know about any of this. I do know people jump on and off bandwagons so fast it makes me dizzy and I'm glad someone other then Vers pointed it out.
I didn't know there is an underlying problem with you and Otto. When I'm not around all day I tend to skim most of the posts on here with the exception of the people I trust know about what they are posting.
To get back on topic, who do you think we should bring in at OLB? My opinion is that while we need someone to rush the passer, we also need someone who can also play the run. I like Peek and his ability as a pass rusher. I believe he can be ok against the run. He was injuried all of last year, and from what I understand they weren't little nagging injuries.
He can be upgraded, but by whom?
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I didn't know there is an underlying problem with you and Otto.
Not really..I just felt like coming back on his post..sometimes we do get excited when a guy comes in ..and sometimes a bit disappointed when he's not signed..but I don't see a whole lot of people saying Phil is a genuis..
Anyway...
Right now there are no big names to bring in at OLB..
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I don't know about any of this. I do know people jump on and off bandwagons so fast it makes me dizzy and I'm glad someone other then Vers pointed it out.
This is very true but I think that's going to be the case with people on message boards. It's exciting times and people take the word of other posters as truth when refering to a guy. I doubt many people at all knew anything about LaBoy. I never saw him play.
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As for Antwann Peek, I have seen him play (as have most of us since I hope everyone tries to watch all the games). He's a decent pass rusher whom always seems to be a step too late. Not as good of a pass rusher as Wimbley but he gets decent pressure on the QB. Against the run I feel like Peek gets smoked. He plays to aggressive and doesn't follow his contain assignment. I feel like Wimbley has upped his game huge against the run last year and I expect this coming year to be a really big one for him. When turnovers and big plays happen he usually seems to be there. I didn't buy his jersey without a reason, hehe.
But yeah, Peek is definitely a place where we need to upgrade. He's purely a pass rusher due to his lack of ability playing the run. I don't think this had anything to do with injuries either, rather it's instincts and mindset. It's the same thing they said about him on the Cardinals (I think) and in college, too aggressive. If I saw him reacting on time and not getting to the carrier or missing a tackle or not getting off a block, okay, but no he was simply out of the play trying to get to the QB.
I remember Blackstock or (however his name is spelled) in college at UVA. He was a very good player and team captain. I was one of the guys pimping him myself. He seemed like an all-around good player who was undersized for DE and a step too slow for OLB. He was able to play the run and rush the passer though. I don't know how he is in coverage, but he's young and that's key with the FA IMO.
If he looks good though I'd love to have him. I remember inteviews with him in college and he was a motivated guy who seemed to have his act together. Of course if you're a 3-4 OLB you must play some sort of coverage, and since Wimbley isn't paticularly good at that, I'd like a guy at the same level if not better than Kamerion in that regard.
CORRECTION: I Might be confusing Darryl Tapp with Blaylock. Not sure guys............
Point is, we need another OLB to compliment Peek who can stop the run but won't get outrun by Ben Roethlisberger ALA Big Willie.
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Wow, he could really help if he can stay healthy. I remember there being a lot of folks going gaga over the kid when he came out.
If the cost isn't too high (e.g. incentive laden perhaps?), then at worst he should be some really nice depth.
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As soon as I read that he's been injury plagued, I thought "Courtney Brown." But, hey, if the price is right and we feel he can come in and contribute, I've got no problem with it.
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Continuing the story...... Browns | Blackstock to visit and work out www.KFFL.comTue, 4 Mar 2008 18:24:53 -0800 Mary Kay Cabot, of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, reports free-agent LB Darryl Blackstock (Cardinals) will visit the Cleveland Browns Tuesday, March 4, and work out Wednesday, March 5, according to a source. And this bit of history...Browns | Show Interest in Blackstock - from www.KFFL.com Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:57:37 -0700 Steve Doerschuk, of the Canton Repository, reports the Cleveland Browns have shown interest in NFL Draft prospect LB Darryl Blackstock (Virginia). Bill Rees, who is the right-hand man to general manager Phil Savage, attended his workout on Virginia's campus
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POSTED 6:44 p.m. EST, March 4, 2008
BROWNS LOOKING AT JOSEPH by Michael David Smith
The Cleveland Browns are showing interest in free agent defensive tackle William Joseph, who will visit with the team on Wednesday.
The 6-foot-5, 308-pound Joseph was the Giants' first-round draft pick in 2003 and has undeniable talent. But he's been plagued by injuries throughout his career, and he missed all of 2007 with a back injury.
For the Browns, signing Joseph would be another move to bolster their defensive line, and a much less costly move than the trades for defensive tackles Corey Williams and Shaun Rogers. Although Joseph has mostly been a tackle during his NFL career, he's a versatile enough athlete that he could be a good fit as a 3-4 end in the Browns' scheme.
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Find one sports fan that doesnt jump on and off bandwagons to some degree.
It wasnt too long ago that Browns fans didnt like Jamal Lewis. In fact many were calling him a drug dealer. Now, you wont find too many Browns fans still rooting against him.
I know I have probabley said that DA, will never be a winning, starting QB in the NFL. Now Im glad Im wrong, rooted for him, and happy that he made the Pro Bowl. Half way thru the year, there were national writers calling DA the underdog MVP. Saying that he would be the midseason MVP in most years. but Brady was putting up record numbers.
Not one Browns fan rooted for Bill Cowher. But many was rooting for him to come here.
Im still on the Tim Couch bandwagon. If only Couch got drafted by this team and not the one in '99. I think he would be getter then DA. DA might have been lesser know then Josh MCown.
back to Free Agency.....
I hope we re-sign Chaun Thompson. Especailly more so than any backup from any other team. If other teams are not looking at him, then he would be the best optian for the price. He knows the system, his teammates and specail teams. And he can step in at any LB spot at any time of the game. Hes not a playmaking game changer, but I want him re-signed. Id keep him on the team until he gets beat out by a rookie in preseason.
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Find one sports fan that doesnt jump on and off bandwagons to some degree.
True. But you don't usually find them jumping on then off in the same 24 hour period. Which is what I was pointing out.
It also depends what you consider bandwagon jumping, I guess. Changing your team affiliation every year would be considered jumping, I'm sure. But deciding a player like Couch isn't gonna cut it after watching him for 5 years is hardly jumping off the wagon.
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The Giants fans were happy to see him go. I was excited to see he was a first round pick until I got to there boards and read their post. His contract was terminated...
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i think injuries are the biggest thing with him, but i remember him coming out of Miami and thought he was solid. Maybe he just has the Courtney Brown bug, I don't know. But hey, price right and incentives, worth a shot.
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j/c Browns | Team talking with W. Joseph Sat, 8 Mar 2008 08:27:59 -0800 Harvey Fialkov and Omar Kelly, of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, reports the Cleveland Browns are talking with free-agent DT William Joseph (Giants). KFFL
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September 11, 2007 Giants put Joseph on IR, replace with DT Davis The New York Giants put defensive lineman William Joseph on injured reserve Tuesday, another setback for the former top draft pick whose career has been plagued by injuries and inconsistency. ESPN
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