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And the improvement of DA or the lack there of, combined with Quinn's progress will be the deciding factors.
That right there is a dead giveaway of what your heart is saying..
You say: "And the improvement of DA or the lack there of" but when it comes to Quinn you say "combined with Quinn's progress" but you aren't allowing for Quinns "lack there of". And there is as much possibility of that for Quinn as there is for DA..
In truth, Quinn moved the ball against lesser talent and with lesser talent. We have no clue if he could do that against top shelf talent with our best guys around him.. my guess is that he can, but it's a guess.
As for a plan, my guess is that you are correct, there is a plan in place. This is one heck of a great problem to have. Two QB's you feel you can win with. How amazing for a team that just a few short years ago, didn't have ONE QB that anyone felt good about.
So, with that thought in mind, I'd say that Savage does have a plan.. I'll be darned if I know what it is, but I bet he has one.
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You say: "And the improvement of DA or the lack there of" but when it comes to Quinn you say "combined with Quinn's progress" but you aren't allowing for Quinns "lack there of". And there is as much possibility of that for Quinn as there is for DA..
In truth, Quinn moved the ball against lesser talent and with lesser talent. We have no clue if he could do that against top shelf talent with our best guys around him.. my guess is that he can, but it's a guess.
That is the point entirely. How can one go "backwards" until you "see what they can do"?
So yes, I find it illogical to say that Quinn could be evaluated as "regressing" since he has had pretty much zero time with first teamers.
So let me define what I was saying. IF and when Quinn gets "playing time with the first team", we really can't say he's "going backwards". And as a second stringer, as long as you're learning, studying and getting more familiar and acclimated to the system, that IS, by it's very definition "progress".
When and if he is elevated to first string, THEN, IMO we can look at and evaluate progress or a lack there of. You actually have to "play in real games" to know where the "starting point is" to evaluate that IMO
Even in pre-season, if he gets time with the first team, we will have something to compare the two to some extent. Nothing etched in stone. However, it will give us an "indication" of which QB is most effective with the first team.
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.. " IF and when Quinn gets "playing time with the first team" .. " Not looking good for this season ! 
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Pit,, Gotcha  Quote:
.. " IF and when Quinn gets "playing time with the first team" .. "
Not looking good for this season !
It's funny Water, but if Quinn doesn't get his chance this season, then that really is a good thing.. I mean it isn't so good for Quinn or the folks that want him to play, but it's good for the browns..
The way I look at it, if Quinn doesn't get in, it's because the Team is winning.. Isn't that what it's all about? It also probably means that DA is doing his job, flaws and all.
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.. " IF and when Quinn gets "playing time with the first team" .. "
Not looking good for this season !
It's funny Water, but if Quinn doesn't get his chance this season, then that really is a good thing.. I mean it isn't so good for Quinn or the folks that want him to play, but it's good for the browns..
The way I look at it, if Quinn doesn't get in, it's because the Team is winning.. Isn't that what it's all about? It also probably means that DA is doing his job, flaws and all.
You know I really can't argue with your reasoning except I'm being selfish  .. " I " would like to know what the kid has 
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Which is why the vast majority of us are rooting for Anderson, whether we think he's the real deal or not is irrelevant. We want to win. I don't know why that's such a hard concept for some here. 
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Could U do me a favor and please ask the dolts what making the playoffs against this schedule has to do with anything .. and DC ... its when I see statements like that I know that most of the folks on here are indeed dolts .. 1. All we need to do to make the playoffs is have a better record than Pitt .. A. We are right now a better football team than Pitt .. B. They play a TOUGHER SCHEDULE than we do .. so we actually SHOULD MAKE THE PLAYOFFS THIS YEAR .. 2. Is it not possible for DA to play great and us to miss the playoffs .. 3. Is it not possible for DA to do the same things he did last year but we make the playoffs despite him repeating the negatives?? I mean last year we were I believe 1 game behind Pitt .. maybe 2 .. and we improved and they declined and they play a HARDER SCHEDULE .. so we should make the playoffs .... no?? .. but anyhow us making the playoffs should not be how we judge DA's year .. but so many of U just don't know enough to seperate the two ... go ahead and ask the for me would U Jules .. Thanks .... now everyone repeat after me .. Daman's a bigger windbag than Grossi ... Daman's a bigger windbag than Grossi ... thats enough ... don't wanna wear U all out ..
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I sure hope Pitt declined. I mean, I think so because of losing Faneca.
I dunno, I guess I'm just concerned over Mendenhall and Sweed...
But that's probably my preseason nerves kicking in. One of my friends keeps being doom and gloom about this season while I keep telling him he's full of it, and that it'd take an injury ravaged season for us to have a bad year.
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You know I really can't argue with your reasoning except I'm being selfish .. " I " would like to know what the kid has
You will definitely see what he has.....eventually......just might not be with the Browns.
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You know I really can't argue with your reasoning except I'm being selfish .. " I " would like to know what the kid has
Truth be told, I'd like to know also, but not at the expense of a winning season.
I guess it comes under the heading,, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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 where in the hell is Mendenhall going to run?? and why in the hell would he scare U .. Parker is a damm good NFL back .. Mendenahll sees very little PT anyhow .. and who is going to block for ben to throw the ball to Sweed .. who by the way will struggle anyhow .. Holmes and Ward are the problems .. not Sweed .. in the last two years they've lost Faneca and Hartings .. they don't even know who there LG is gonna be yet .. andhow about RT and RG .. and whos the bum they brought in to play Center .... and your afraid of there rookie skill position players .. *LMAO* .. U gotta be kidding me .. and the brain surgeon Arians is going to a spread offense .. thats GENIUS for a team with a QUESTIONABLE at best OL ... the stilers went from a WAY ABOVE AVERAGE - GREAT OL for the last decade at least to BELOW AVERAGE in a hurry .. Arians would fit in well on this board ..
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Daman's a bigger windbag than Grossi ...
Daman's a bigger windbag than Grossi ...
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1. All we need to do to make the playoffs is have a better record than Pitt ..
Duh,, Genuis,, pure genuis.. unless of course Cinci or Balto have a better record than both us and Pitts..
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A. We are right now a better football team than Pitt ..
And you have the guts to call me a windbag.. prove they are a better team than us? You can't. we have to play the games to determine that. As of this moment, they are defending thier division title and until we or someone else takes it, they are the better team.
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so we actually SHOULD MAKE THE PLAYOFFS THIS YEAR ..
That by no means make it automatic.. Besides, we don't know which teams will slide and which teams will rise. When you say tougher, you are strickly going by last year and that is also by no means an automatic.
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but anyhow us making the playoffs should not be how we judge DA's year .. but so many of U just don't know enough to seperate the two ...
Now what did I say to make you think that I don't understand that?
Like I said Diam,, you jump to WAY to many conclusions and what's worse about it, you do it in a rather rude way..
I'd much rather be a windbag than RUDE...
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Diam is Rude .. Diam is Rude .. Diam is Rude .. Diam is an Ass Diam is an Ass Diam is an Ass .. i'm sure thats sumptin we can all agree on for once .. see I;m a peace maker .. *L* .. there U go windbag .. how's that???
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Play Nice Kids  
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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It may be time for some spankings.
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I like your thinking Diam... you are a good man...wierd as hell, but a good man just the same...  The above statement is what I wrote after your first response... I take it all back,...
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we are the BETTER team now .. injuries may change that .. but as of RIGHT NOW TODAY we are BETTER THAN THEM ..
hopefully U understand that LAST YEAR is IRRELIVENT to THIS YEAR ... I know its asking alot ... but i have faith in U ..
I understand your thinking.. and we are better than them on paper but until we prove it on the field, it's just that... on paper.
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W00H000!
wait, umm... nevermind 
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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Do you have any stats to back up your opinion
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U see that was LAST YEAR
Last year,, yea, it was last year and last year they were better than us..
And until we PROVE OTHERWISE, they still are.
Also, if you think that was last year and therefore doesn't apply to this year, then why the hell are you concerning yourself with who has the tougher schedule.. That was LAST YEAR also.
So if it doesn't matter for one thing, why should it matter for the other..
Between you and me, I don't care which of us is right,, but for crying out loud, be consistent..
I'm done with this converstion... you are wasting my time..
So sorry purp...I tried...
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U see that was LAST YEAR
Last year,, yea, it was last year and last year they were better than us..
And until we PROVE OTHERWISE, they still are.
Just wondering Damon.........................
If we DO win the division, yet DA shows a little to no improvement......................
Do you still say "If it ain't broke don't fix it"?
Or do you say, "QB is a weakness that can and should be improved upon if we plan to be SB contenders"?
RB? Productive as hell!
OL? No need to even comment there.
WR's / TE? Check
If we win 10 games and get to the end of the season and it all blows up in our face, what could we change on offense to get over the hurdle?
This question is based upon our O (besides QB) playing as well as they did last year.
I mean if it gets down to "crunch time" and "the chokes" show up again, is it or isn't it "broke"?
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"I don't know WTF 2 do right now."
What we always do...root for the Browns to WIN!!
Root for all the players who play to do great and progress!
If DA TRULY IS our Franchise QB - So be it. And that would be Great! As long as he improves and is the guy...fine with me.
We should try to keep both as long as possible. If so BQ would probably eventually get his shot and impress a team out there to Give us the Kitchen Sink!
Its a Win Win situation with us all the way. Just as long as we make the right decisions and as long as both are not what we hope them to be...thats the only way we lose.
JMHO - its all good
Defense wins championships. Watson play your butt off!
Go Browns!
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Just wondering Damon.........................
If we DO win the division, yet DA shows a little to no improvement......................
Do you still say "If it ain't broke don't fix it"?
The man had 29 TD"s, 19 INT's, over 3500 yards passing and was selected to the Pro Bowl, and your asking me if DA showed Little to No improvement what would I do?
Little to no improvement probably gets him back to the pro bowl, and with a better, stronger, stouter D, we probably get to the playoffs..
What would I do you ask?
CELEBRATE!  
But it all depends on the IF's
You go on to give me a bunch of if's.. what the heck am I supposed to do with them?
If Jessica Simpson convinces my wife to leave me so she can have me to herself,,,, IF IF IF,,,, for crying out loud.
Let me ask you something Pit,,
What "IF" DA Throws 35 TD's, 15 INT's and we win 14 games in the regular season? What would you do?
Please don't answer me,,, I don't really care.. it's hypothetical and it doesn't matter, because what I just gave you to make a decision on doesn't tell the whole story. Much like the If's you gave me to make decisions on..
I'll wait until the end of the season, see how it goes and decide what I want then, instead of arguing a bunch of hypothetical situations with you and others.
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but anyhow us making the playoffs should not be how we judge DA's year ..
I agree with this. I don't believe our record will factor heavily into the FO's decision. I believe the player himself will.
As to Daman's comment about the Steelers being the better team until we beat them, well ... he's said a lot of other stuff to make his football knowledge questionable, but that's not one of them. He's just repeating the company line. And there is some truth to it. You chose to refute that statement because you think people are making it blindly without thinking about what they are saying.
You then go on to cite the reasons why. They're logical, but you're talking like you have a crystal ball - for both teams. It appears to me the Steelers have always fostered an environment where they can plug in guys and keep on moving. We have never had an environment like that here. You sound awfully sure of yourself how things will turn out. I can buy the reasons, but there are no guarantees.
Rip Daman for citing the company line if you want. But you can at least see if he has a change of opinion when you 'debate' your side of it. All of us get caught up in the 'company line' from time to time without thinking it through. And although you appear to have thought it through, it doesn't make it true. We'll see when the games are played.
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I'm done with this converstion... you are wasting my time..
*LOL* .. thats classic .. its like Jason Wright telling Jamal Lewis .. Pfft .. I don't need your advice no more .. I know what I'm doing ..
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Also, if you think that was last year and therefore doesn't apply to this year, then why the hell are you concerning yourself with who has the tougher schedule.. That was LAST YEAR also.
I'll help u out here .. well .. only cause I;m me and your U .. so I'll help U out here ..
We play 3 teams that are different on our schedule ... and 1 of those teams is ourselves .. *L* ..
the other differences are they play SD and we play Denver ....
the other one is they play NE and we play Buff ,,, '
now even though last year is last year I bet if u polled all 32 NFL GM's they'd say they'd rather play Denver and Buff than SD and NE THIS YEAR ... (Ya ..I said 32 cause even Buffalo;s and Denvers GM aren't stupid enough to say otherwise .. ) ..
good try though .. *LOL* ..
and U see .. not all teams have been closing the gap for the last 3 years like we have ... and NONE of them IMPROVED as much as we did this last off season COUPLED with the best team in their division declining as much as ours has over the same period ..
I actually follow what the other teams in the entire league do and follow it closely ....
so not only am i CONSISTENT in what i say .. I do it based on WAY MORE INFO than U or most have ...
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He's just repeating the company line.
Did he get hired by the Browns .. if so .. Congrats Daman ... if not .. WHAT COMPANY??
and Oh By The way .. the COMPANY is CONFIDENT they can beat Pitt .. Opie and RAC and the players KNOW THEY CAN BEAT THEM ... and rAC and everyone better be LETTING IT KNOWN inside the Locker Room and out on the practice field .. in public of course there not going to say it .. that'd be dumb . but i don;t work for the company .. I'm just a fan of said company and DAMMIT I am happier than a pig in crap that were FINALLY BETTER THAN THE STILERS ..
if u wanna be all tentative and afraid to say it out loud .. be my guest .. I AI'NT for the simple fact that we ARE A BETTER TEAM THAN THEM ..
it really is that simple .. does that mean we'll beat them .. NOPE .. were not light years better than them ... BUT WE ARE BETTER ... No way were the Gnats better than the Pats last year but on that day they BEAT THEM ..
and at one time I was considered the MOST PESSIMISTIC POSTER ever .. they even started a thread to get rid of me cause i was to pessimistic .. I said it then and I;ll say it again now .. WHEN THE TEAM GIVES ME A REASON TO BE OPTIMISTIC I WILL BE ... well that time is NOW .. my football sense back then told me we stunk and I was chastised for pointing it out .. now i'm to optomisic I guess .. *LOL* .. well ... PFFFTTTTTTTT to U guys ..
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You chose to refute that statement because you think people are making it blindly without thinking about what they are saying.
How in the hell do U know why I chose to refute it .. are U that little voice in my head?? *L* .. are u a pshychogist?? If so your not very good at it .. i REFUTE IT cause were a BETTER TEAM RIGHT NOW .. I do not need to wait until games are played to know that .. we could lose to them EVEN though were the better team TODAY ... lots of things can and will happen between now and when we play them the first time much less the 2nd time ..
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They're logical, but you're talking like you have a crystal ball - for both teams.
I don't need a crystal ball to tell u that TODAY were BETTER than them .. all I need is last year + what happend in the off season to know were BETTER ... its not that DIFFICULT .. we IMPROVED and they GOT WORSE ... WTF is so hard to figure out about that??
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Yes they have .. well times thay are a changing ..and this was actually more on D than O .. and the reason there down is the OL .. and they have done a PRETTY BAD JOB at drafting OLman over the last 5 or 6 eyars and there paying for it now .. they NEVER used to go into FA .. well it started 4 or 5 years ago when they went into it for Hartings .. GREAT MOVE ... then they went and got Oliver Ross .. HORRIBLE MOVE ...
there draft picks have been of the Oliver Ross caliber since they Took Marvel Smith 5 or 6 years ago .. the poster boy is Max Starks with Simmons ( I believe thats his name) not far behind ..
Right now they know they have M. Smith at LT .. and prolly M. Starks at RT (and he is below Avg. on a good day) .. then they know that Simmons is going to play ONE OF THE GAURD POSITIONS .. and there not sure who's going to play C .. Hartig the guy they got from Carolina or if there going to move him to RG therefore moving Simmons (INJURY PRONE) to LG and then I can't even remember his name to C ..
THIS IS NOT GOOD IF YOUR STILER FAN .. its great if your us ..
OH and i forgot to mentiont hat Casey Hampton is hurt and out of shape .. hes a top 5 interior DLman in the game .. OUCH!!!!!
*LOL* ... WERE BETTER THAN THEM ... its obvious .. there living on REPUTATION .. well this is going to be a down year for them .. YOU'LL SEE ...
your giving them way to much credit based on their reputation .. their OL is IN SHAMBLES ... they won with D and a running game .. they can't run no more cause of their OL and good luck passing behind that OL ..
they may not even come in 2nd .. well .. Balt and Cinci are that bad so they prolly will .. *L* ..
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that was then .. this is now .. and we may not foster the environment the Stilers did .. what they did was AMAZING ... but right now today .. WE ARE BETTER THAN THEM ..
an injury or two could change that .. but for now .. WERE BETTER ..
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Btw.....what happened to Quinn blowing away DA in training camp, forcing the FO to go with Quinn?
To the best of my knowledge TC is not over yet .. is it?? *L* ..
That didn't work out so well .. my boy has struggled from all accounts ..
I will say one thing .. to get a base hit U need to step up to the plate .. well he was never given a chance to step up to the plate so the base hit much less the HR was never a possibility ..
I WAS WRONG ... and I am sure u will point it out to me for the next 6 years like U did my last mistake ... its the only time U ever address me is to bring up my one mistake .. well now U have two bullets for your gun .. Your 'welcome for the ammo ..
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Agreed. My opinion too based on everything so far. If DA plays well he'll never get the chance to show it here though.
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After 6 years I still love saying the name. The name of the greatest WR to ever come into the NFL. The name that will be on the tongues of babes for decades to come. The man to rewrite the record books....DAVID, DAVID, DAVID By the way how is the sculpture coming along for Canton? 
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As to Daman's comment about the Steelers being the better team until we beat them, well ... he's said a lot of other stuff to make his football knowledge questionable, but that's not one of them. He's just repeating the company line
I never once said I know everything about football. I never professed to be a know it all. I never professed to being anything more than a fan. I am what I am,, that's it.
As for the company line,, hey, what is the company line?
I mean, if it's that "until we beat them, they are the champs" then yeah, I guess I am.. But it's the truth.
#GMSTRONG
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Daniel Patrick Moynahan
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and Oh By The way .. the COMPANY is CONFIDENT they can beat Pitt .. Opie and RAC and the players KNOW THEY CAN BEAT THEM
Knowing it and doing it are two different things in the world outside your mind Diam.. And because you think it, doesn't make it so. They have to beat them to be considered better than them..
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if u wanna be all tentative and afraid to say it out loud .. be my guest .. I AI'NT for the simple fact that we ARE A BETTER TEAM THAN THEM ..
Bold statements, I hope you are right.. but until I see it on the field, then it's just wishes and hopes. Wishes and hopes we share I might add.
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and at one time I was considered the MOST PESSIMISTIC POSTER ever
It's easy to be a pessimistic when things are bleak.. Try being optimistic at that same time..
But in the interest of peace,, The following statement is made:
DIAM is KING
DIAM is THE MAN
DIAM is NEVER WRONG
DIAM is the man we should all BOW DOWN TOO
DIAM has football Knowledge that FAR surpasses anyone currently coaching in the NFL, College or High School level.
DIAM is the ALL KNOWING, NEVER OVERBEARING KEEPER OF THE ETERNAL FLAME OF FOOTBALL TRUTH...
The rest of us are pure pond scum!
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe."
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Refering to the original post,
The artical seven admitted that the play calling was different with quinn in. really, they ran that double slant no less than 3 times.
IMO the playcalling and offencive line didn't give quinn alot of opprotunities to see many deep or intermediate throws.
what stuck out to me were the multiple misthrows to JA out of the backfield and Quins Very nice screen pass that quinn sold the Defense on that the lineman went to far downfield.
It's so nice to have a problem like this.
Ruining QB's since 1999.
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MY GOD This place NEEDED an ANEMA! Welcome back buddy!
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I thought u were done with me here .. a true man of his word I see .. *LOL*.. Quote:
DIAM is KING
DIAM is THE MAN
DIAM is NEVER WRONG
DIAM is the man we should all BOW DOWN TOO
DIAM has football Knowledge that FAR surpasses anyone currently coaching in the NFL, College or High School level.
DIAM is the ALL KNOWING, NEVER OVERBEARING KEEPER OF THE ETERNAL FLAME OF FOOTBALL TRUTH...
man .. I hope this fits in my signature ...
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The rest of us are pure pond scum!
Naaaa ... not all of U .. there's actually only a few fish in that pond ...
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I thought u were done with me here .. a true man of his word I see .. *LOL*..
You absolutly bring out the worst in me... It's like an addiction, I can't just leave it alone,,,
#GMSTRONG
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MY GOD This place NEEDED an ANEMA! Welcome back buddy!
*LOL* .. why do i gotta be an ANEMA ... not sure thats a good thing .. *L* ..
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It's better than being an enema.
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#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe."
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