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Honestly bro, if you haven't figured out how to be comfortable around girls by age 24, coming to a message board for advice isn't going to help you.

It's going to take some trial and error. You'll have to figure out your own niche ... what works for you. And that will only come with practice i.e., dating more than one girl.

The only advice I can offer is to stop coming here for advice. Nobody here can help you because nobody knows you. Figure it out on your own. That's the only way. You'll fail sometimes, and you'll succeed sometimes. If you learn from your failures, you'll be alright if you can apply those lessons the next time around. It's really no different than most aspects of life.

Don't sweat failing or getting it wrong either. You're only 24. You're too young to be serious with anyone anyway. You've got plenty of time to have some fun.

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just kinding, common fletch go easy on the kid, you remember what it feels like to feel that old heart start pumping over a girl dont ya.....Ya do have a heart dont ya....

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Ya do have a heart dont ya....

He did but he had it for dinner with some Fava beans and a nice Chianti......


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Just have fun and don't expect anything...roll with it. Oh, and one thing I've learned from advice threads -- don't listen to anything the guys here will tell you. Good luck.




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JMHO...

What's the rush, Chief ? I've met thousands of people throughout the world and in this great country and probably 20 that I hold dear to me. Some for some reasons, some for others. They are ALL special to me and I to them.

Heck, even if she doesn't want to be your girl, we could all use a lil Poli-Sci knowledge right?? and she just may turn out the next, great novel (with hints from you).

Be her friend first and that's all to look for. Don't go looking for love...it'll find you.......when you least expect it.

I knew my girl for close to 20 years before we became *we* and *we've* been together for 10 years now. We don't like all the same things, don't like all the same places....and we don't want to. The things that keep us happy and together are simple things...movies, talk, walks, trips and football ( gonna be a good Sunday...she's a cowboys fan.. ), but we'll watch and have fun no matter who wins.

Don't rush it and you just may end up with a girlfriend and maybe at the least...someone you can hold dear for 30 years and countin'










Gawd, that sounded sappy

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30 years? congrats!

Her parents are divorced and her mouth was gaping when I told her my parents celebrated their 29th anniversary the day of her 22nd birthday (Aug. 25).

I'll have part 2 up soon.

initial thoughts: she sounds like a good friend so far...we'll see. I'm still skeptical.


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Well damn, if she was born on my birthday, she has to be a great gal


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j/c.
I'll put up part 2 here instead of making its own thread.

It all began with a run. I ran 8 miles this afternoon in 90'F weather (61 flat, or 7:40 per mile!), showered and drove down to meet her at 3 p.m. in Chesterland (a small city east of Cleveland for those of you not familiar with the area).
We opened up with some informal convo and got down to brass tacks quickly (She had a swim lesson at 5 p.m. and we were only able to go 85 mins. together). She is a very good cyclist but, like me, doesn't know how to swim well. She even put my bagel in the toaster at the restaurant when I wasn't expecting it.
She told me she wanted to hear about my writing career, which I told her about, and I was bracing myself for someone who was just a careerist and not much else. Then the personal questions start (she asked me all sorts of stuff about me being adopted, etc. etc.).
First things first: She was born in Cleveland, on the west side, and went to Laurel School in Shaker Heights because she wanted to be on the swim team. She wound up not going swimming due to an ankle injury but stayed due to the awesomeness that is Laurel School (Insert shameless plug here).
Her parents divorced when she was five. She doesn't see her mother much. She graduated Laurel School in 2004 and was involved in political science.
Kath went to Queen's College in Canada but backed off because Canadians were too passive politically--they weren't fired up about anything, according to her. She transferred to Rice, busted tail, and graduated in two years. She moved from Houston to Tallahassee and then to Jacksonville. At one point, she had a radically conservative boyfriend who saw life's glass as half-empty. The long-distance thing didn't work out so she moved back to Cleveland in January. She's telling me all about this personal stuff about her and about how big a tool her ex was. I just put my reporter hat on, looked at her with no emotion and let her talk. It's not my bailiwick.
Now, she's living in a rented house near my church and taking cooking classes at a nearby school. She wants to take a few months and get healthy and learn cooking. Her leg/ankle injury is similar to LeCharles Bentley's in one sense: Although initial surgery fixed her ankle, infections got into her system and have screwed around with her health and immune system.
I was able to make her laugh for the most part. That's a start. She was giggling most of the time and her blonde hair was blowing every which way. We were laughing at one point and the waitress looked at both of us for a second.
She wasn't pumped about the fact that her parents were divorced and questioned how mine could've stayed together for 29 years. Well, what do I say? I referred her to my parents.
One thing I remember: She was REALLY pumped about the fact that I get to see my name in print. I do too but it's not really a big deal. She used to write for her school newspaper as well.
After everything was said and done she invited me to her and her sister's dinner parties in the future. She also said she wants to hang out again NEXT week.
Well, if you look at it from another way, I've gotten two field goals on two 80-yard drives that chewed the clock. Good ball control offense and solid run defense. Nothing spectacular--very Parcells NYG style--but so far so good and so far pretty effective.
(Knowing my luck now, I'll never hear from her again.)
I never mentioned the Browns to her. She actually brought it up first by asking me about the Cowboys game on Sunday and what time it was. Even she understands what a big game it's going to be.
She also wanted to know how I taught myself piano. So I told her about a 60 Minutes episode I saw that featured autistic kids kicking Beethoven's tail with no training whatsoever. I told her, 'hey, I know how to read music, based on 4th grade flutophone practice and chorus in middle school' and proceeded to teach myself piano starting the next day. I got a keyboard that winter for Christmas and taught myself "Your Song." Fall semester 2004 rocked because my dorm lounge had a piano and that's what I did when I wasn't on security duty that semester.
That being said, I think things went well. No costly 15-yard personal fouls or 10-yard holding penalties.
Even when I was out running before the meeting I come back and got two texts from her about 20 minutes apart--one to tell me she might run late, the other one to tell me she is on time--so take it for what it's worth.
Now, it's a matter of waiting. The ball's in her possession and she's on O now. Let's rock!

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The football analogies are cracking me up dude.

I just hope, for your sake, she is not a member of this board.




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thanks. no, she is not. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to make it its' own thread though...so I erred on the side of caution. Fletch had a good point. Thanks Fletch.


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Yes please post Part 2 in this thread, so your lack of love life isn't floating all over this damn board, because honestly some of us don't give a crap.

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Dude, I was certainly entertained reading that, but that was too much information about someone without their permission for posting it I'm sure. She might not read the board, but someone might know her that does. That was not cool. The information you provided was very specific to her and only her.

But on a positive note, if I had to wager a guess ... I think things sound more like she is interested in a more than just being friends ... but dating is fleeting ... you'll just have to hold on for the ride. Remember, actions speak way louder than words ... you'll know soon enough what direction she's leaning. And if you get confused ... again, remember 'actions speak louder than words' ...


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Ok now I understand why Fletch got all pissy............ he is the jilted ex boyfriend Just playin with ya Fletch.


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Asian Dawg...."...What's ironic is that although I'm 24 I've always related better to my parents' friends than kids my own age. But that makes it worse because I'll never be able to truly understand them--they're nice but they've got their own lives and kids and mortgages and whatnot, while I'm still living at home and trying to buy a house. "

Nothing wrong with grazing in the older meadows on occassion when the younger fields aren't blooming.

I had to read twice your line about how she talked about how big a tool her ex boyfriend was...I thought that he had a .....nevermind.

The main question here is not what her motivation is with you; but rather, what you want from her and your relationship!
My guess is that someone tipped her off about this nice, smart guy and that she is just checking you out. That's good...because you can play the same game while finding out if she is worthy of your time and effort.

My guess is that she is looking for a good guy to have a relationship with and that she will adjust to your moves. Have fun!


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I gotta agree with Rishuz here, and that pains me a lot.

You put a little too much detail into your post about her. Information she may not want out there in public for all eyes to see. Take off your reporter hat, and put on that friend hat when writing about this stuff.


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i see where you are going with that. and I respect your thoughts. but trust me, she doesn't read the board. Most, if not all, of her friends live out of the area. And most, if not all, of them are not Browns fans. They're all from Alabama, Texas, Florida, S.C., etc.

People wanted to know how it went. And I didn't want to put up another thread about it. She's been through a lot, so pray for her. I could edit and take some info out to make you happy.

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I gotta agree with Rishuz here, and that pains me a lot.

You put a little too much detail into your post about her. Information she may not want out there in public for all eyes to see. Take off your reporter hat, and put on that friend hat when writing about this stuff.




I have to third that.

In fact, I'm kind of annoyed with how much personal information he gives out about me that I didn't even know he knew and I'd rather keep secret from this board for sheer privacy issues.

Might as well broadcast my social security number on the board for christ sakes. I don't mean to be a jerk but I really don't want people knowing my life story on this board (unless I tell it, and even then I only give out so many details).

I know I talk about my life experiences a lot but I don't go into THAT much detail. Some people think I paid him off to come onto this board and talk about me but I really didn't, knock it off.

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This gets more funny by the minute.

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I know and I don't mean to hijack the thread because it's not about me but dammit it's frustrating when you get on the board and read about you and your brother's high school accomplishments in WAY more detail than you would ever give out and you didn't even tell it.

It's like when CoachB said he doesn't talk about what place he coaches at because some dude from the board called the administration and talked smack about him. You can't give out too much of your life story on the internet.

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My guess is that if some dude did call b's school it was a guy he pissed off in his anger management class. Not a board member.......


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Where's the love?


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Where's the love?

Apparently, that's what Asian wants to know......


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Might as well broadcast my social security number on the board for christ sakes.




It was already posted, but don't worry with your 412 trans union score nobody is going to steal your identity


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OK,, so you are a professional writer.. right?

AD,, please, some punctuation and a few paragraphs would be nice

Just razzing you man.. It sounds as if she is interested in more than your writing (thank god for small favors )

So sit back and relax, if she calls, great, if not, so what, you don't have a ton invested.. move on to the next one.


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Daman, I tried to break the text down but I forgot to space between the grafs so it looks like one big one paragraph. Where do I need punctuation?

I don't mind if people make fun of my posts--it's all good--but where do I need to improve in grammar, spelling and punctuation? I want to come across as someone who knows what he's doing writing-wise and can be taken seriously.

A lot of how people perceive you is how you write.


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AD,,, did you see the little emoticons like this or this in my post.. they indicate that I'm having some fun with ya.. so chill out my friend..

Paragraphs will do just fine thank you... it's hard to read when it looks like that..


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AD,,, did you see the little emoticons like this or this in my post.. they indicate that I'm having some fun with ya.. so chill out my friend..

Paragraphs will do just fine thank you... it's hard to read when it looks like that..




no you're cool...as a reporter I'm used to people asking about my writing.


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Let's go up to the bar sometime and meet some women. I say we meet 5 or 10 then you can be in the driver's seat and pick and choose.

Go ahead and laugh, whatever. The offer's on the table.

I think your biggest problem is you lack confidence and initiative when it comes to women, and a certain amount of toughness.

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Congrats man... I'm sort of in the same boat - after basically giving up on dating I think I might have found the girl for me.

Do as I'm doing... put your trust in the Lord... pray.. and get to know her as quickly as possible.

Oh - and since we're on the subject - if you want a great book about living a Christian/Manly life and having a good relationship with your spouse you need to read "Every Man's Battle" - I'm half way through it - fantastic book!

That and the Five Love Languages - two great books that will help you a long way to a good relationship


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Congrats man... I'm sort of in the same boat - after basically giving up on dating I think I might have found the girl for me.



I have an issue with attacting the wrong girls... they are all crazy. oh wait...


Seriously though...

I think the hardest part is when you are attractive... (no, I'm not cocky) just being honest. Because then people constantly look at you like a piece of rump roast or top shelf something or another. It makes it hard to figure out if they want a one nighter or actually are intested in me and not what I look like.

I honestly lack in self confidence when it comes to women because of it and I never can get over the fear of approaching a woman. The only ones I meet come up to me.... maybe thats why I meet only the crazy ones.

Also, it probably explains why I'm 27 and single.

I did want to say.... congrats AD!


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She's from St. Pete?

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Let's go up to the bar sometime and meet some women. I say we meet 5 or 10 then you can be in the driver's seat and pick and choose.

Go ahead and laugh, whatever. The offer's on the table.

I think your biggest problem is you lack confidence and initiative when it comes to women, and a certain amount of toughness.




What do you mean "a certain" amount of toughness?

I'm not that confident and I"m aware of that. That's being worked on. I don't mind being told that because I'll be the first one to tell you that.

But I'm tougher in many areas--just not with women due to inexperience.

I'm for your idea. Send me a PM.

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I had a very good friend growing up. His name was Tom.. Tom had an interesting way of meeting women and it rarely failed to be honest.

Tom would go to a bar, scope out the single women he was interested in and he would rank them 1 thru whatever.

He would start out approaching the #1 choice.. made his advance, if he got shot down, he's simply move to #2 and so on.. It was a rare night that Tom left the bar alone..


Just a thought man...


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He would start out approaching the #1 choice.. made his advance, if he got shot down, he's simply move to #2 and so on.. It was a rare night that Tom left the bar alone..




One potential problem there.. by 2:30 was he down to the whaler in the corner of the bar?


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HMMM since you like football talk, when are you going to ask her how she likes to utilize her tight end??



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