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Look at the Falcons, their HC choice certainly wasn't "exciting" but I bet winning 11 games and making the playoffs has been thrilling!




I don't think people should be so quick to think the new coaches in Atlanta, Baltimore, Miami, hell, even Pittsburgh are saviors that will be around for years to come.

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Parcells..really..dude jumps around more than a frog on a pond full of lilly pads..




And creates winning teams.

Who wouldn't want Parcells?


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just clicking, 'holic. I'm glad RAC is gone.
Romeo is a good guy, but not a good head coach. I wish him luck, he was never anything but classy in Cleveland.


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yea...

He gets my nod though. We need to get a defensive minded guy BACK in here. It should help right?




Uh, Romeo is a defensive minded guy. And our defense blows.

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Parcells..really..dude jumps around more than a frog on a pond full of lilly pads..




Like seriously...

If Lerner wants continuity... He's gonna have to go with a coordinator, and/or a coach that hasn't been in the league since Montana won his last super bowl.

The old heads that are mentioned won't be here long... So whats the point on bringing them to Cleveland? An off season thrill?


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Cowher tells Browns he's not interested; Pioli to be interviewed for GM position
by Mary Kay Cabot
Monday December 29, 2008, 10:39 AM

BEREA - Browns owner Randy Lerner said today that former Pittsburgh Steelers coach Bill Cowher told him he was not interested in joining the Browns.

Lerner met with the media this morning to announce that Romeo Crennel has been fired as head coach.

Speculation for his replacement had been centered on Cowher for several weeks, but Lerner said Monday that he met with Cowher on Saturday night and that Cowher said he would not return to coaching in 2009 and asked Lerner to take him off the Browns list of candidates.

Cowher told Lerner that he was comfortable with his lifestyle in North Carolina at this time.

Lerner said he's already asked for permission to talk to New England Patriots Executive Vice President Scott Pioli and that he'll focus on the general manager role next.

Lerner also said he's receiving permission to talk to another unnamed NFL exec. He appeared interested when informed that Eric Mangini had been fired by the New York Jets this morning. Mangini, a former Browns employee, worked with Pioli in New England.

Crennel, 61, was fired after going 24-40 in his four seasons at Browns head coach. He had three years left on his contract, which had been extended in January after he guided the Browns to a 10-6 record and just missed the playoffs.

But things fell apart this season, starting with injuries to several key players, including quarterback Derek Anderson and wide receiver Braylon Edwards, both Pro Bowl performers the previous season.

Midway through the season Crennel benched Anderson in favor of Brady Quinn, but the struggles continued, especially after Quinn suffered a broken finger that ended his season. Anderson returned and promptly suffered a season-ending knee injury. With Ken Dorsey and free agent Bruce Gradkowski at quarterback, the Browns failed to scored an offensive touchdown over the final six games, establishing an NFL record, and finished with 4-12, marking the fifth time in the past six years that they had at least 10 losses.

Throughout the season Browns players voiced their support of Crennel.

Crennel came to the Browns after several seasons as defensive coordinator for the New England Patriots under Bill Belichick. He has been part of five Super Bowl championships with the Patriots and New York Giants.


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Don't you get it?
Once he's performed the task, he leaves..who wants that??

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Once he's performed the task, he leaves..who wants that??




Hopefully my wife!


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Don't you get it?
Once he's performed the task, he leaves..who wants that??




And I'm saying who cares? Is there any doubt in your mind that Parcells would build a winner here?

I want to win, no matter what, and Parcells is one guy who wins pretty much everywhere.


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cowhers decision


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Definitely, I bet he already has turned the Browns down.





It was just on ESPN that Lerner and Cowher met in NYC on Saturday and Cowher listened but declined.. so yeah, he's not coming here.


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GM Pioli
HC Mangini

What do you think about that?

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I don't really know a lot about Mangini. What does he bring to the table?


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GM Pioli
HC Mangini

What do you think about that?




I would love it. Pioli would know what Mangini would need, he knows his style.

They would work very well together. Probably should be target #1.


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Mangini didn't seem all that to me... I mean whats the difference b/w him and Romeo?

It's good that he has some coaching experience, but I never saw him in the players arse on the sidelines. He seemed pretty calm and collective.

How would he be with the younger players?


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i sure would like to be 9-7 instead of 4-12 thats a start right there.....he wins football games Rac didnt do that


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Well obviously you don't.
I do care ..
I on the one hand while wanting a winner..don't have need for a one hit wonder..then Parcells is gone and you have to look for a new GM..
Please spare me the drama.

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Well obviously you don't.
I do care ..
I on the one hand while wanting a winner..don't have need for a one hit wonder..then Parcells is gone and you have to look for a new GM..
Please spare me the drama.




To each his own, I guess.

I really can't say no to the greatest football mind in the NFL right now. No matter how long he is here.


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Probably Lerner. Since 99 we've tried THREE such "experiments". NOBODY out there has any more credentials than RAC had when he came here. How did that work out again? From a business standpoint, do you think Lerner WANTS to "make money"? You think "experiment #4 will do that? If so, think again.

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I'd rather have the solid choice then the exciting choice. Winning excites me, I don't need a big name.




Butch was a winner. RAC was a winner. How did that pan out again?


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Look at the Falcons, their HC choice certainly wasn't "exciting" but I bet winning 11 games and making the playoffs has been thrilling!




Look Bud, take all the first time HC's in the NFL that FAILED compared to the one's that succeeded. We've had THREE FAILURES IN A ROW and you're advocating a fourth?

Good luck with that. I know I'll keep my wallet closed for that one!


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

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Cowher isn't coming here..




I don't think so either....but we are going to talk to him...at least that is what I read...so as long as he hasn't said no, i suppose there is some slim chance.


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You missed it, he said no on Saturday, just reported.

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He said no on Saturday according to the articles above.


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Their running game turned it around.


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he already said no saturday night


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I don't think so either....but we are going to talk to him...at least that is what I read...so as long as he hasn't said no, i suppose there is some slim chance.






already been reported that lerner and he spoke on Saturday and he declined to consider any offer to coach the Browns.


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And after further reading, I see he isn't.


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You missed it, he said no on Saturday, just reported.




I didn't miss it....just hadn't got to it yet!


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we should just bring back butch davis at least we made a playoff with him here hehehe


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In the words of Monty Python (I hope) "and now for something completely different." RAC, I am sorry this didn't work out better, and I am sure success will come one day. I thank you for the hard work and feel you have been a class act who led by example and for whom player character was vital. I applaud that notion in the days of football that also give us PacMan and that ilk. The pressure is off. Best of luck in all future endeavors. Go Browns!


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we should just bring back butch davis at least we made a playoff with him here hehehe




You're grounded for even suggesting such a thing.


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What's so funny??




bring back Butch....

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You're grounded for even suggesting such a thing.




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haha.....so it will be like this year then no football hahaha


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If Parcells would stay through the length of his contract I would not question it.
But he reminds me of the guy who can have any girl he wants..usually they don't settle down..they just date this and that..

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