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I'm with ya on this one .. just say no to Mangini ... Mac has made a couple of good posts about the bad blood between Mangini and Poli ...
What do you think about McDaniels?
you had a good run Hank.
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Jim Schwartz?
Oh yeah, that will excite the fan base.....
May da Schwartz be wit you!
So RAC's out and they kept the entire staff "In case the next HC would want to keep them"?  Yeah, I'm sure he'll want the whole crew!
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How about Urban Meyer? - He's been successfull at every level, and is always prepared.
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I have a better idea how about we hire paul johnson and get the tripple option in cleveland  I could just imagine seeing brady break 50+ runs on pittsburghs D.
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Not like it was a big surprise or anything...but damn. Adios Romeo and good luck. Let's just hope we get a coach that kicks ass and takes names!!!!!!
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How about Urban Meyer? - He's been successfull at every level, and is always prepared.
His offenses produce...I think he's an Ohioan is he not?
Young enough to stick around for a while.
We talk experienced NFL coach and who's out there? And, if they were special why would they be unemployed?
Cowher has removed himself. Doesn't look like Marty is interested...who is left? I don't want a retread! I want a Chuck Knoll type tenure here!
We better start thinking outside the box a little!
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If Florida wins the national championship its definetly a possibility.
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Mutt,, that's all well and good.. and I have no particular problem with Urban Meyer,,, But we've been down that road bringing in a highly touted big college coach... and frankly, I'm tired of that kind stuff.
We the fans need healing. The team needs healing, the organization needs healing.
We need a proven winner even if it's Marty Schottenheimer (where did you hear he wasn't interested, he did say he was happy but he didn't say he wouldn't consider it) and he can only coach for 3 or 4 years..
He could heal this team and set it up for years to come..
Another guy, retread if you want to call it that, is Dick Vermeil. Not as a coach, but perhaps as a GM... Think about that for a moment. Let him pick his coaching team.
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A good guy takes the fall...  So long Romeo, I wish you success whereever you go, and wish things had worked out better here.
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If Florida wins the national championship its definetly a possibility.
Pair him with a strong D coordinator (is this where RAC fits in) and it could work.
I'm just not willing to ride that old coaches carousel.
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Meyer fits perfectly. - Give him 1 year, if he doesn't work, then Cowher may be interested.
I also love the idea of Dick Vermeil coming in as head coach.
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I'm with ya on this one .. just say no to Mangini ... Mac has made a couple of good posts about the bad blood between Mangini and Poli ...
What do you think about McDaniels?
That's intriguing, McDaniels dad coached Warren so there's some NE Ohio ties . . . if you're in to that sort of thing . . .
In all honesty for me, Let's look at Russ Grimm or Tony Spagnoulo.
If we hired Pioli, I would hate to see him bring in a guy as coach just because he worked with him. For God's sake, take a look around first.
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The only problem I have with looking at Steve Spagnuolo is that in NY he's run a 4-3 defense. Transitioning to a defense that doesn't offer as many looks as you can with a 3-4 and taking even longer to do it just doesn't appeal to me... He'll probably be an excellent coach elsewhere, but just does not seem to fit us right now...
No issues with the idea of interviewing Grimm, though I'm just not too sold on him not being an OC and just being a position coach. I would be excited about what we may be able to do for just hiring a strictly defensive guy to coordinate the defense.... but Grimm better have a sound vision, impress in the interview, and show that he's more than one dimensional and capable of making big roster, draft, and gameday decisions. There's alot I'm just not sure of with him...
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I'm with ya on this one .. just say no to Mangini ... Mac has made a couple of good posts about the bad blood between Mangini and Poli ...
What do you think about McDaniels?
You know what I think?
I think Randy is grasping for straws when he keeps looking at all these New England guy's. Yes they are successful but they have their own way of doing things and that does not neccessarily mean that it will work for us.
I'm just looking at the Romeo hire, wanting to hire Pioli, thinkng about hiring Mangini, thinking about hiring McDaniels.......
Come on Randy! We are not the Patriots! Man up and step outside the box!
Do a thourough search and hire a coach that has passion and motivation, an extremely high football IQ on both sides of the ball and can instill all those characteristics into his players.
Stop trying to take all the coaches and front office people away from the Patriots just because they have made it work there.
I don't like the McDaniels choice for the simple fact that the Patriots didn't even have an offensive coordinator for a whole year and I think that was the last year they won the Super Bowl. When are stupid owners and GM's in the NFL going to realize that the mad scientist behind the whole franchise is Bill Belicheck? How many coordinators have came and went and the Pats haven't missed a beat? Plus how many coordinators from the Pats have actually succeded? A big fat goose egg.
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Why does it matter if he runs a 4-3? Thats the defensive coordinators job to run the defense.
Mike Tomlin comes from a Tampa 2 background but he's running a 3-4 perfectly fine in Pittsburgh because he knows that is what the team is built for.
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I think he's an Ohioan is he not?
I've seen this comment/question about several of the folks suggested for GM or HC.. and for the life of me, I still have no idea why it matters.
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In theory, that can absolutely work... the only issue I have with that then is that there is no Dick Lebeau quality, PROVEN defensive coordinator out there ... that and the fact that Spagnuolo strikes me as a guy who has to be able to scheme and derive things himself, sort of like a mad scientist. He learned defense under Jim Johnson in Philly for about 5 years. He virtually will feel that he HAS to have a part in running the defense. It's in his blood, and he is a schemer... fat chance he's going to be content just giving things to a DC running a 3-4 as he takes no part in that...
Like the guy, don't get me wrong, but I don't think Cleveland is going to be his destination...
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I think he's an Ohioan is he not?
I've seen this comment/question about several of the folks suggested for GM or HC.. and for the life of me, I still have no idea why it matters.
It's quite obvious...We're just flat out the coolest! 
It doesn't matter at all in the long run. We just assume he has good enough taste AS an Ohioan to be a Brown's fan and therefore pour his lifesblood into the franchise like many here have!
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Thank you DC! I don't care if the next coach is from Timfrickenbucktoo as long as he wins! Ohio guy or not who gives a rats a**.
Just make it work. I'm tired of this retooling every 3 or 4 years.
And the next head coach is ......
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I see what you are saying but when it comes down to it really the guy either wants to win as soon as possible or rebuild. And in this case he's gonna want to win asap so he would likely stick with what the team is built for. Theres no way the guy is a defensive coordinator in the NFL and doesn't know how to run a 3-4 defense, he just prefers a 4-3.
And in all reality I love a 3-4 myself but if we can be a better team running a 4-3 then so be it. It really wouldn't be hard to switch to a 4-3. We just need a couple players and some of the guy's we will need are staring us right in the face this free agency and draft.
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Jim Schwartz?
Oh yeah, that will excite the fan base.....
May da Schwartz be wit you!
So RAC's out and they kept the entire staff "In case the next HC would want to keep them"? Yeah, I'm sure he'll want the whole crew!
Yeah thats going to leave a mark.
Randy didn't tell them? "We're done with you. Go to the golf course and work on your putz." 
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And in all reality I love a 3-4 myself but if we can be a better team running a 4-3 then so be it. It really wouldn't be hard to switch to a 4-3. We just need a couple players and some of the guy's we will need are staring us right in the face this free agency and draft.
If you look at our personell on the defensive side, a 4-3 might be easier than most think. Williams and Rogers both played in a 4-3. Our linebackers are more 4-3 backers than 3-4 guys. I also believe it would be a lot easier finding a couple DE's for the 4-3 than continuing trying to convert 4-3 guys.
IMO with Rogers and Williams a solid base has been placed for the DL. Turn these guys loose to do what they have been doing sucessfully since being in the league. Guys like DQ and Bell could be great fits as 4-3 backers. Unless we sign big FAST LBs, the 3-4 in Cleveland will struggle.
Whoever we get as a GM, I hope speed is in their minds. Our defense looks slow and lumbering, while the top defenses all are very fast.
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If you look at our personell on the defensive side, a 4-3 might be easier than most think. Williams and Rogers both played in a 4-3. Our linebackers are more 4-3 backers than 3-4 guys. I also believe it would be a lot easier finding a couple DE's for the 4-3 than continuing trying to convert 4-3 guys.
IMO with Rogers and Williams a solid base has been placed for the DL. Turn these guys loose to do what they have been doing sucessfully since being in the league. Guys like DQ and Bell could be great fits as 4-3 backers. Unless we sign big FAST LBs, the 3-4 in Cleveland will struggle.
Whoever we get as a GM, I hope speed is in their minds. Our defense looks slow and lumbering, while the top defenses all are very fast.
I guess I disagree.
I think we are 2 OLB and ILB away from being a pretty decent defense. If we switched to a 4-3, we are 2 DE's and two OLB away from being a good defense.
But of course, that is JMO.
you had a good run Hank.
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Robaire Smith was a DE in the 4-3.
Wimbley was a DE when he was in college. Have him put on about 15 pounds and put his hand down. He does it half the time anyway.
Maybe not the best DL, but playable.
If Hall can learn he could be a good outside backer with experience.
DQ and Bell.
JMHO though
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Why does it matter if he runs a 4-3? Thats the defensive coordinators job to run the defense.
Mike Tomlin comes from a Tampa 2 background but he's running a 3-4 perfectly fine in Pittsburgh because he knows that is what the team is built for.
LeBeau is the one who runs the defense, so of course Tomlin is OK with it
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Lerner said the Browns’ assistant coaches remain under contract and could return under the new head coach when he is hired.
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I would think that Shaun Rogers and Corey Williams on the inside of a 4-3 would be quite a force. I don't know if we have the LBs at this point ..... but at least we'd only need 2 instead of 3.  I am a 3-4 guy at heart ...... but if we have to build around what we have .... the 4-3 might fit better.
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