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Ya know, I've never ever heard anyone say they hate BE because he went to Michigan.. not even once have I heard anything like that.... EVER
Honestly, many a times I've seen negative comments from posters on here that relate his play from him being a Wolverine. It's pretty stupid and has no merit. It sometimes is probably a joke, but some people bring it up too many times when talking about his hands.
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Honestly, many a times I've seen negative comments from posters on here that relate his play from him being a Wolverine.
The truth is coming out! Other people have noticed it as well
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j/c There is a huge difference between a few drunken fans yelling from the stands and teammates on the field bashing him because he is from UM! JMHO Go Brownies!!!!
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Ya know, I've never ever heard anyone say they hate BE because he went to Michigan.. not even once have I heard anything like that.... EVER
Honestly, many a times I've seen negative comments from posters on here that relate his play from him being a Wolverine. It's pretty stupid and has no merit. It sometimes is probably a joke, but some people bring it up too many times when talking about his hands.
Got a link? 
Honestly, I agree with wavs2u. Every team is going to have certain idiotic fans, but to assert that a great amount of fans disrespect Edwards BECAUSE OF the fact that he went to Michigan is ridiculous IMO.
Moreover, if you want to be a high profile player like Edwards with all the lights shining on you, you have to be willing to take the good with the bad. You have to own up to things, not make assinine statements like saying it's because I'm from Michigan. The problem is guys like Braylon their whole lives have been glamorized, and now that they're not receiving validation 24/7 and have to fess up to their shortcomings, they blame us.
Also, Petey, just know that I regard anything you say from now on as stupid. LOL 
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Moreover, if you want to be a high profile player like Edwards with all the lights shining on you, you have to be willing to take the good with the bad. You have to own up to things, not make assinine statements like saying it's because I'm from Michigan. The problem is guys like Braylon their whole lives have been glamorized, and now that they're not receiving validation 24/7 and have to fess up to their shortcomings, they blame us.
I agree with that to some extent, but we as fans can't all be a bunch of a holes.
I can already see it, or hear it actually. I GUARANTEE that opening day, in Cleveland Browns Stadium, Braylon will be booed when announced by some of our idiot fans.
Then those same people will be mad at him when he brings it up, or if it gets to him. We expect the world from our guys, but don't fully support them. I don't know about you, but being in public and having people say stuff about my family would absolutely... me off to high hell.
The guys is only an athlete. Nobody has the right to do that to him or his family. And if he takes offense to it, he's only human. People can say things about me, but if you say things about my daughter, my wife, my brother, my sister, my parents, it will take all I have to keep from breaking your nose.
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I think Braylon gets made fun of for being a wolverine, not because he was one, but because people are venting their anger in frustration in him dropping the ball and it is the easiest target.
If he did not have the on the field problems, I would wager that 98% of the off the field ones would go away. There will always be a few bad apples, but I think the majority of people are tired of the substandard play. If he caught the ball, then I doubt anyone would even mention it in a negative way.
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I think we're on the same page. It comes down to how you conduct yourself in public though too. I mean, on one hand, there's the Hank Fraley type. He struggled a bit last year, but nobody booed him because he never invited it by whining to the media or showboating. Some might argue the same with Jamal Lewis.
What I'm primarily trying to say is that if Braylon pulled the same attitude crap on another team - especially the Giants or Eagles - and produced the same results on the field, the fan reaction would be no different than it is here in Cleveland. It might even be worse.
Now if he actually just shut up and worried more about playing good football rather than back-flips on Monday Night football, helicopters, shoeless races, yelling at his teammates, playing air guitar after a touchdown, blaming the fans, etc. I think the fans would treat him a lot differently.
I really, really don't think it's a Michigan thing.
Sidenote- who said anything about his family? I'm not denying it, but I haven't heard anything.
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Ya know, I've never ever heard anyone say they hate BE because he went to Michigan.. not even once have I heard anything like that.... EVER
Honestly, many a times I've seen negative comments from posters on here that relate his play from him being a Wolverine. It's pretty stupid and has no merit. It sometimes is probably a joke, but some people bring it up too many times when talking about his hands.
There is some truth to this. Top Michigan receivers don't have the best records coming out of school. Kinda like OSU and their linebackers. 
I will say that I have been quite impressed with the afterthought receiver (Avant? Plays for the Cards?) he will be a great value when all is said and done.
I also know that quite a few of you were pimping Grable and Long. I guess it didn't matter that they were from Michigan.
Us older folks loved Huard and Everitt. I even liked Derek Alexander even though he was a bust of a top pick.
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This post is going to be full of Hippocratic Fans.
In 2007, I NEVER heard anything about Braylon being from Michigan, but instead, just how great of a receiver he was and how we are so lucky to have such a premier WR on the Browns!
Then, 2008 came about, and he started Dropping Balls. The VERY FIRST THINGS I heard was, oh great, he is back to dropping balls, no wonder he's from Michigan.
WHere you went to College should have NO BARING on how you think of a player in the NFL other then performance.
Braylon didn't have a good year in 2008, but not everything was his fault, as we switched QB's, the lack of Running Game, and the Lack of Passing Targets.
If you took out JJ, Winslow and put a horrible running game, what would you expect?
Nothing went right for the Browns in 2008, so the blame CAN NOT be put all on a WR, whether he is from Michigan or not.
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Also, if I may add:
Mel Kiper thinks that Mohamed Massaquoi was a much better pick then Brian Robiskie because of Massaquoi's potential upside.
This comes from an unbiased person. Personally, I think Robiskie is going to be "over rated" by Browns Fans because he is from Ohio State.
Personally, I think Robiskie is going to be a great possession receiver, and this is coming from a Non-Ohio State Fan.
Just forget he is from Ohio State and talk about the two as for what t hey really are, NFL Players.
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While I don't want to steer this completely off subject, you have to have wool over your eyes or cotton in your ears to have never heard anyone bash Braylon because he went to UM.
No,, it's true.. I've heard people say that they hate him.. but NOT because he went to the UM... But instead because he dropped passes, can't run a route, has a wiseguy attitude, is me first...
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I've been to 7 browns game since BE was drafted and I have yet to go to a game where someone doesn't yell "go back to Michigan!" the minute he does something wrong.
Well, yeah, I've heard that for sure.. But again, take a look at what you wrote, it's not about him being a Michigan guy, it's because he did something wrong...
But I've never heard anyone say,, we don't like him because he was a UM guy.
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Now, is it EVERY fan? Clearly it's not but a few bad apples CAN spoil an entire bunch when it starts to get personal (i.e. people bringing his family in to it).
I'm not 100% convinced that that really happened.. at least not the way that BE described it.. But on the chance that it did.. that's really sad. some very inconsiderate fans are making the rest of us look bad.. There really isn't an excuse for that.
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Again, it's not really a right or wrong kind of thing but thinking it's not happening at all is insanely naive.
Now just a moment, where did I say it wasn't happening.. All I ever said was that I hadn't heard it myself...
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Well, yeah, I've heard that for sure.. But again, take a look at what you wrote, it's not about him being a Michigan guy, it's because he did something wrong...
But I've never heard anyone say,, we don't like him because he was a UM guy.
Daman, I know you're a smart man but come on.
Do fans say "go back to Oregon State" when DA makes a bad throw? Or "that's why you went to Notre Dame!" when BQ throws an INT? Or will they be saying "go back to Ohio State!" if Robiske ever does something wrong?
Again, it's not everyone but some fans just cannot get past Braylon's college affiliation if he does ANYTHING wrong.
Now, I made several general comments in my post that weren't directed specifically at you (which maybe I didn't make clear). I wasn't trying to imply that you were lying about hearing people says things, I was just pointing out that they are definitely being said (whether you have personally heard them or not).
Given how moronic some fans are, I would find it VERY hard to believe that many of these same idiots wouldn't be saying things to Braylon's family if they had the chance. Have I personally seen someone yell at BE's family? No, I have not but it isn't hard to connect the dots IMO. That's what I was getting at with that previous post.
It's incredibly unfortunate because the Browns do have some great fans but we also have some people (I might argue more than most teams) that are a complete embarrassment to everyone involved with the franchise. I still will never understand how some of our fans have cheered during injuries to our own players. 
All I was pointing out was that if you think those idiots that cheer when our QB's get hurt aren't saying derogatory things to a guy who played for a HATED college rivals (and his family) then I got a bridge to sell you.
I'm not trying to say ALL the fans are doing it but there are plenty of buffoons who are doing their part.
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BE doesn't want to admit this, but IF (and that's a big if) anyone in his family was being yelled at by fans in Cleveland, it had NOTHING to do with him being a michigan guy and EVERYTHING to do with him dropping passes and in general being a pain in the butt..
I've seen how Browns fans act, that is definitely not that hard to fathom... but if, IF, his family was being yelled at, FOR WHATEVER REASON, then BE has a legitimate complaint. A lot of Browns fans need to grow up.
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I think BE is using that as an excuse.. If a player for the browns wants adored.. all he has to do is play well and we'll embrace him... No problem.. none whatsoever.
Wanting to be adored and expecting that your family not be harassed at the stadium are two completely different things.
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Daman, I know you're a smart man but come on.
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Do fans say "go back to Oregon State" when DA makes a bad throw? Or "that's why you went to Notre Dame!" when BQ throws an INT? Or will they be saying "go back to Ohio State!" if Robiske ever does something wrong?
I'll never deny that in these parts, there is a hatrid for anything Michigan.. no question about it.. and no doubt, when fans are frustrated with BE, they revert back to his days at Michigan with disgust.
But I still say that if he was a producer,, did his job right, lived up to the hype, ran solid routes, caught passes (not just the hard ones but the easy ones also) was a good guy in general and not a pain in the butt... he'd be accepted and loved and adored by the Fans of the Browns...
SO to say that he's hated JUST BECAUSE he's from Michigan,, again.. I ain't buying into that. And I've NOT heard anyone say it..
I'll admit that some are probably thinking it however.
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Again, it's not everyone but some fans just cannot get past Braylon's college affiliation if he does ANYTHING wrong.
True enough,, I'm sure there are fans that feel that way.. but what would they think if he didn't do anything wrong? would they love him? I suspect they would.
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Given how moronic some fans are, I would find it VERY hard to believe that many of these same idiots wouldn't be saying things to Braylon's family if they had the chance.
If that's true, then I feel for BE's family. They shouldn't have to put up with that garbage....
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All I was pointing out was that if you think those idiots that cheer when our QB's get hurt aren't saying derogatory things to a guy who played for a HATED college rivals (and his family) then I got a bridge to sell you.
Where is that bridge and how much do you want for it?
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Sorry to get the thread back to the subject, but here's what I think the Robo selection bring to the table.
He was the most "polished", nfl ready receiver in the draft. Even on the high school level the coach's kids are USUALLY the better players on the field. His Dad is a career nfl recever coach.
He was a ball boy for the browns while his DAD coached here. Don't discount the advantage of knowing your way around the office before you are even hired.
IMo he will develop into a very good possesion receiver ala JJ. This will give Quinn or whoever starts at QB a nice outlet. KW and JJ are gone so this is a huge need. He's got the smarts to find the holes in the zone and he'll learn to get there and sit down like JJ did.
He's a buck!!! (he will get the benefit of the doubt if he happens to drop one).
I thought it was kinda cool that after all BE's whining about fans hatin on him for being from up there that we go out and get a buck WR. Hahaha
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Do fans say "go back to Oregon State" when DA makes a bad throw? Or "that's why you went to Notre Dame!" when BQ throws an INT? Or will they be saying "go back to Ohio State!" if Robiske ever does something wrong?
I guarantee if Robiskie got drafted by the Lions and had a season like Braylon did last year that the fans here in UM country would scream at him for being from Ohio State and would tell him to go back to OSU or whatever.
Its a huge rivalry. That is the nature of the beast. You guys need to grow up and quit whining that he is treated poorly because he is from UM, that hyas absolutely nothing to do with it. The problem is he has a ton of potential and can't get his head on straight. So he blames the fans and says it is because he went to UM. Then the UM fans join the fray and agree with it because the rivalry is important to them as well.
If Hines Ward signed as a FA here and had a great season for us do you think anyone is going to care that he used to play for Pittsburgh and won Super Bowls with them? No. However if he had a crappy season I guarantee we all would tell him to go back to Pukesburgh.
Its a rivalry people. What do you expect?
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I like the Robo pick, not because he's from OSU, but because he can contribute immediately. I'll be surprised if he isn't our number two on opening day this year. He can put up numbers from the get go. I don't see that happening with Massaquoi. I don't think he'll be able to contribute until next year at the earliest.
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You are right,., we got off track...Sorry
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j/c
this could just be fantasy on my part but i hope robo turns out to be our 3rd down guy, like JJ was. if that happens, i would expect edwards to have a monster year and who knows, maybe all the bad blood will wash away (and $8-9 million a year, that we saved from picking at #5, would serve as the oxyclean or something). i think mentally, when edwards thinks he HAS to make a clutch grab, he screws up but when he's challenged in a "no way he can make that catch," he excels. take the pressure off the guy on third down and let him dominate people on 1st and 2nd down. let the guy continue to develop and i still hold out hope that he can, and will want to, be a force for us for years to come.
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I really hope you are wrong about MM. I would love to have to burners on the
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MM isn't a burner. He's quick, though. I like having him on the team because he's a slot receiver who can block. I'm not crazy about the fact we picked him, but he's a good addition to the team.
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Fans of Hippocrates? Count me as one. Do no harm. I like that.
Hypocritical fans? Of the Browns? We have those?
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The problem is he has a ton of potential and can't get his head on straight. So he blames the fans and says it is because he went to UM.
It all stems back from a sense of over-inflated value and self-worth combined with the feeling that he should be given respect without first earning it.
He's been handed everything his entire football life, but that changes once you get to the NFL. So his thin-skin is exposed and you get what you see here.
Hearing the Michigan razzing goes with the territory. Handling it as poorly as he did........and CONTINUES TO DO.........results in all this.
The settling statement to this entire silly debate revolves around the understanding that being from Michigan has not been a problem for any Browns players EXCEPT for Edwards.
Case closed.
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I still get the feeling that Edwards will be traded.
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Remember the "inside info" that one ex poster use to state about what was happening at his house? Did you ever hear the corroborated?
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i was thinking about that the other day. last night, espn 2 was showing re-runs of madden nation. if you guys aren't familiar with the show, it's a reality show with the "best gamers" in madden competing against each other. each player represents an nfl player and and in each episode, there's a segment where the player meets the nfl player at the nfl player's home to play a game and be given a jersey of the nfl player.
well, one of them represented braylon edwards and went to braylon's house...but braylon's house, at least on the show, was in detroit. i'm sure it's possible that he has multiple houses but i don't see how his house would've been vandalized if it was the detroit one.
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I will say that I have been quite impressed with the afterthought receiver (Avant? Plays for the Cards?) he will be a great value when all is said and done.
That would be Steve Breaston on the Cards. Avant is an Eagle...
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Yup, that's correct.
They're actually both pretty decent receivers. Breaston is overshadowed by Fitz and Boldin.
Avant is going to have to compete now with Maclin and Jackson.
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