Quote: There's an old saying that says: "There is no such thing as bad publicity."
He is in the entertainment business, and now his name and face are center stage in a major (manufactured?) "drama".
Sounds like marketing to me.
Part of me thinks that as well.
Kind of ironic how Taylor Swift's embarrassment has potentially catapulted her into superstardom beyond where she could have achieved had this not happened.
Quote: This is EXACTALY why I try not too be hard on Kanye or people in general.
Please... he's a big boy. He created this problem, he can deal with the consequences. It seems he has apologized, so all he really needs to do is lay low for a while, keep his mouth shut and this will eventually blow over. The last thing he needs are family and friends creating any more drama around this situation than already exists.
Hopefully, now that he's been publicly called out for his behavior, he'll engage his brain before he speaks next time he's tempted to make a "statemement." We'll see...
[color:"white"]"Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."
Quote: You may be right Arch but NO human should be laughed, taken lightly or encouraged to commit suicide.
I haven't seen anyone laugh at him. I haven't seen anyone encourage him to kill himself. Have you?
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I think he's serious because I think he's crazy enough to do this.
That's his problem, not the press.
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You're right Arch he is a rich and successful person so he's different from us however think about it.
Who cares if he's rich? I don't. I screw up often, don't ever think about suicide. I'm NOT rich (although O thinks I am) If making himself look like an ass is enough to cause him to think of suicide, the guy has problems. He made himself center stage. No one else did. He's made himself look like an ass too many times.
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He probabally feels like he let his dead mother down, his fans and millions of other people as well. Who here on this board can say that?
Live and learn. It's called life. You don't call "suicide" just for attention, and I 100% believe he's looking for attention - the sympathy kind.
Dude's looking at lost income. That bugs him, so he throws the sympathy card.
Next thing you know the race card will be played and jesse jackson and whatever his name is, al sharpton?....will be all over this.
Quote: Kind of ironic how Taylor Swift's embarrassment has potentially catapulted her into superstardom beyond where she could have achieved had this not happened.
In my eyes she achieved superstardom and more when she did Crossroads with Def Leppard.
Quote: I haven't seen anyone laugh at him. I haven't seen anyone encourage him to kill himself. Have you?
No but I'm disgusted with some of the comments on here.
Quote: That's his problem, not the press.
However the press made a bigger deal out of this then what Chris Brown did last year. Has Barrack Obama ever said a thing about what he did?!?
Quote: Who cares if he's rich? I don't. I screw up often, don't ever think about suicide. I'm NOT rich (although O thinks I am) If making himself look like an ass is enough to cause him to think of suicide, the guy has problems. He made himself center stage. No one else did. He's made himself look like an ass too many times.
I agree but why the hell is him thinking about suicide not a big deal just because he's a celebrity? How will you react if he actually does do it?
Quote: Live and learn. It's called life. You don't call "suicide" just for attention, and I 100% believe he's looking for attention - the sympathy kind.
Dude's looking at lost income. That bugs him, so he throws the sympathy card.
Next thing you know the race card will be played and jesse jackson and whatever his name is, al sharpton?....will be all over this.
He did it, he needs to man up and deal with it.
Like I said man, celebrities do have it easier then everyone but how would it make you feel to have your own fans boo you along with millions of others? We have NO IDEA what there lives are like.
True, but what difference does THAT make? Who among us little people would be boorish enough to get out of our seat, go on stage, TAKE THE MICROPHONE OUT OF THE HAND OF AN AWARD WINNER and basically PROCLAIM before millions of people that she didn't really deserve to win the award?? Did he think people would just say "oh... that's just Kanye being Kanye" this time around?? If so, maybe he really could use some professional help.
The guy put himself out there and now he regrets it. GOOD. Like I said before, maybe, just maybe, he's learned something this time around. For his sake, I hope so.
[color:"white"]"Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."
I never said ONCE I condone what Kanye did. I just don't like the idea of ever treating suicide like it's a publicity stunt especially with a guy who I believe may be mentally unstable right now. I mean whose to say he isn't still depressed over his mother and that it took something like this to push him over the edge? I gues what I'm trying to say is be careful of what you say because he *could* actually do it.
True, but what difference does THAT make? Who among us little people would be boorish enough to get out of our seat, go on stage, TAKE THE MICROPHONE OUT OF THE HAND OF AN AWARD WINNER and basically PROCLAIM before millions of people that she didn't really deserve to win the award?? Did he think people would just say "oh... that's just Kanye being Kanye" this time around?? If so, maybe he really could use some professional help.
The guy put himself out there and now he regrets it. GOOD. Like I said before, maybe, just maybe, he's learned something this time around. For his sake, I hope so.
Who among us little people? No one. Who amongst the stars? No one.
No one has ever ripped the mic out of an award winners hands and said someone else had a better one.
No one but the suicidal idiot. And candyman, west isn't suicidal - it's called press and trying to get empathy. That's what he wants.
If his family and friends are so worried about it, they remove the guns, knives and drugs from his home. ANY family member worried about a suicide would do that. Then, they forcibly take him to a center to get mental health care.
We haven't heard of that happening, have we?
Press, publicity, and sympathy. that's what he's after, plain and simple. I have $50 bucks he and his reps are sitting back waiting to see how his suicidal thoughts play in the media.
Madoff and Ponzi schemes, the state of the economy, the healthcare debacle, Darfur, War on two fronts, H1N1, Government Bailouts of the banking and auto industry....................................
and did you see what Kanye did to Taylor Swift!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The VMA's are a joke.
Pop music AND MTV are a joke.
Why do people care about Kanye West OR Taylor Swift?
This whole thing is a joke..............and somehow it has managed to distract an entire nation for Way Way WAY longer than it rightfully should have. Even the freaking President is wasting time commenting on this---and for what good? Nothing---its pointless blabber that is 100% inconsequential.
Its pretty ridiculous.
And this is the ONLY post I am WASTING on this ridiculousness.
Quote: Kind of ironic how Taylor Swift's embarrassment has potentially catapulted her into superstardom beyond where she could have achieved had this not happened.
That's funny right there... There is a reason she is raking in country awards AND pop awards.. and it has NOTHING to do with Kanye West...
But on the brighter side, the President finally said something that I can agree with...
President's opinion of Kanye West sparks debate
By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer David Bauder, Ap Television Writer – 1 hr 10 mins ago
NEW YORK – President Barack Obama's candid thoughts about Kanye West are provoking a debate over standards of journalism in the Twitter age.
ABC News says it was wrong for its employees to tweet that Obama had called West a "jackass" for the rapper's treatment of country singer Taylor Swift. The network said some of its employees had overheard a conversation between the president and CNBC's John Harwood and didn't realize it was considered off the record.
The network apologized to the White House and CNBC.
Harwood had sat down with the president to tape an interview following his appearance on Wall Street on Monday. Although they are competitors, CNBC and ABC share a fiber optic line to save money, and this enabled some ABC employees to listen in on the interview as it was being taped for later use.
Their attention was drawn to chatter about West, who was widely criticized for interrupting Swift as she accepted an award at Sunday's MTV Video Music Awards to say that Beyonce deserved it.
During what sounds like informal banter before the interview begins, Obama is asked whether his daughters were annoyed by West's hijacking of Swift's acceptance statement, according to an audio copy that was posted on TMZ.com.
"I thought that was really inappropriate," Obama says. "What are you butting in (for)? ... The young lady seems like a perfectly nice person. She's getting her award. What's he doing up there?"
A questioner chimes in, "Why would he do it?"
"He's a jackass," Obama replies, which is met with laughter from several people.
The president seems to quickly realize he may have gone too far, and jovially appeals to those assembled that the remark be kept private. "Come on guys," he says. "Cut the president some slack. I've got a lot of other stuff on my plate."
E-mails shot around among ABC employees about Obama's comments, said Jeffrey Schneider, ABC News spokesman. Before anything was reported on ABC's air or Web site, at least three network employees took to Twitter to spread the news.
One was Terry Moran, a former White House correspondent. He logged on to Twitter and typed: "Pres. Obama just called Kanye West a 'jackass' for his outburst at VMAs when Taylop Swift won. Now THAT'S presidential."
When ABC News authorities found out about it, they had the tweets deleted after about an hour, Schneider said. Moran declined a request to comment.
But the news was out.
Harwood said there was no explicit agreement with the president that those comments were off the record. But he said it is broadcast tradition that such pre-interview chatter is considered off the record until the formal interview begins. Harwood is holding to that: He would not discuss what the president said before their interview and has no plans to do so on CNBC.
He said he was aware that it was likely someone outside of CNBC was listening to his conversation with the president.
"It's one of those things that's unfortunate," he said. "But I think it's an honest mistake."
There was no immediate response to requests for comment from White House spokesmen.
Twitter, a technology that's a natural tool for reporters who love to tell people what they know whenever they know it, has raced ahead in usage before many news organizations have developed policies to govern its use, said Richard Wald, a former ABC News executive and professor at Columbia University.
"You need to reinforce the sense that you have to verify before you publish," Wald said. "The policies may be very comprehensive, but they may not be adequate to the technology that news organizations have."
The incident is reminiscent of past "open-mic" incidents involving politicians. President Ronald Reagan, while waiting to make a speech in 1984, joked that he had outlawed the Soviet Union and that "the bombing begins in five minutes." During the 2000 presidential campaign, George W. Bush turned to running mate Dick Cheney to point out a reporter from The New York Times and used an obscenity to describe him.
"If you're sitting there with a microphone on, you don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy," said Kelly McBride, an expert in journalism ethics for the Poynter Institute. "If you're a governor or president, you know that."
She also questioned whether news organizations should be agreeing to go off the record with the president.
Judging by the things written by other Twitter users since West's action, Obama wasn't in the minority, she said.
"The president calling Kanye West a 'jackass' is perfect information for a tweet," she said. "In fact, that's the ideal format. You can do it in 140 characters. There's not much else to say."
Quote: Unfortunately I probabally don't listen to half the music the older dawgtalkers listen to. Just one last thing I listen to Kanyes music and I still will.
That's OK, man. You like what you like, nothing wrong with that. I hate popping off about music I don't particularly care for - people have different tastes and no one can say whose opinion is correct and whose isn't. There are innovative rappers, I'm not naive enough to think there isn't... but I still stand by what I said about sampling.
It is... some people arguing the merits of his music and the merits of hiphop in general. When the point is that he could be Elvis or Bono or Beethoven, he's still an ass.
He asked the reporters to give him a break after he said it. personally I would have loved it if he said it on national TV. I loved when Bush was overheard on an open mic bad mouthing a reporter from the Times. This was even better. I love when these guys just say how they feel.
Quote: I never said ONCE I condone what Kanye did. I just don't like the idea of ever treating suicide like it's a publicity stunt especially with a guy who I believe may be mentally unstable right now. I mean whose to say he isn't still depressed over his mother and that it took something like this to push him over the edge? I gues what I'm trying to say is be careful of what you say because he *could* actually do it.
I do agree with you about taking suicide lightly. I don't agree with those who think we should be easy on the guy (or others for that matter) just because it might cause them to get depressed. Actions do have consequences.
I wish i could get away with bad behavior because many know I am nuts. Since I can't, he shouldn't either.
Quote: Apparently President Obama called Kanye West a "jackass" for what he did.
And he is correct.
Quote: I love when these guys just say how they feel
Here to, there human, i'm sure many will cry he should be more polite or represent his office or stature better than that bye useing a classier word....Common folk, call it as ya see it, there a time to call it politely and a time to call head on.
Quote: I loved when Bush was overheard on an open mic bad mouthing a reporter from the Times. This was even better. I love when these guys just say how they feel.
Everybody in this country that I know says they would love a straight talking, honest President who pulls no punches.. until one does, then everybody backpeddles and apologizes... some will stand up with them, even if they didn't like what he said, and defend his right to say it... I try very hard to be one of those guys...
So there have been a lot of people making pictures of Kayne in front of other people or situations and then putting captions to fit it to the scene ...
Kayne in front of Mt St. Helens: "Hey M.S.H, you're great and all and I'm gonna let you finish ... but Hurricane Katrina was the greatest US natural disaster of all time!"
Kayne in front of God: "Hey God, you're great and all and I'm gonna let you finish ... but Sega made the greatest Genesis of all time!"
Kayne in front of himself at the MVA's: "Hey Kayne you're great and all and I'm gonna let you finish ... but Johnny Knoxville was the greatest jackass of all time!"
So there have been a lot of people making pictures of Kayne in front of other people or situations and then putting captions to fit it to the scene ...
Kayne in front of Mt St. Helens: "Hey M.S.H, you're great and all and I'm gonna let you finish ... but Hurricane Katrina was the greatest US natural disaster of all time!"
I was at bar last night and a guy got a text that said Kanye West interrupted Patrick Swazye's funeral by yelling "Michael Jackson's was better!"
(Disclaimer: This post is not necessarily the views of the poster but is merely recalling the events of the previous night. Side effects may include anger and disgust at the poster. Your mileage may vary. )
Please... he's a big boy. He created this problem, he can deal with the consequences. It seems he has apologized, so all he really needs to do is lay low for a while, keep his mouth shut and this will eventually blow over. The last thing he needs are family and friends creating any more drama around this situation than already exists. 
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There is a reason she is raking in country awards AND pop awards.. and it has NOTHING to do with Kanye West...
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