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DA had his chance and blew it. The only way he should get another shot is after Quinn has thoroughly blown his, and after 2 games, it's WAY too early to pull the plug on him. Switching QBs is a decision that you make after getting a good enough look at one player to make the determination that he's not the guy. I don't care if we switch if Quinn continues to blow, but you cannot make that decision in Week 3 with only a few starts under his belt.
Tell us exactly how DA "blew it". Gimme a break!
The fact that he was statistically the worst starting QB in 2008? How about the has had exactly one good game in a year and a half?
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Tell us exactly how DA "blew it". Gimme a break!
How did he blow it? He's gotten 27 starts, played in 31 games and has put up a 75.1 QB rating with a sub 55% completion percentage. How much more of him do you need to see before you realize he's nothing special because he can't consistently play well? Is he a better option than Brady has been lately? Probably. That does NOT mean, however, that you bench Brady before giving him a chance to improve.
QB musical chairs is exactly what has gotten us into this crap situation in the first place. We need to just stick with a guy and run with it. This season is a waste anyway because Mangini just hasn't put enough talent on this team. We need to be able to move forward in a clearcut direction in the future, and benching Brady before he even gets 3 games into a year is NOT the way to do it.
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DA had his chance and blew it. The only way he should get another shot is after Quinn has thoroughly blown his, and after 2 games, it's WAY too early to pull the plug on him. Switching QBs is a decision that you make after getting a good enough look at one player to make the determination that he's not the guy. I don't care if we switch if Quinn continues to blow, but you cannot make that decision in Week 3 with only a few starts under his belt.
Tell us exactly how DA "blew it". Gimme a break!
The fact that he was statistically the worst starting QB in 2008? How about the has had exactly one good game in a year and a half?
How many games did he play last year? Complete games.
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DA was God awful last year until week 6, then he was God awful after that... he got 8 weeks to try to find some semblence of his 2007 self before being yanked, he found it exactly once in 8 games, against the Giants (with a decent showing against the Jags).... and this was with a defense that held the Steelers to 10 pts, and in 4 consecutive weeks held the Bengals to 12, the Giants to 14, the Skins to 14, and the Jags to 17....
I do appreciate the tone of your post, it is very level headed. Yes, excuses abounded for Anderson last year. Edwards did drop some passes, but Winslow didn't. He was the go to guy that Quinn doesn't have. Anderson did miss a couple weeks of camp, but he had 700 snaps in 07 and much of preseason as the #1... we had other injuries, bad play calling, yada yada yada... the defense played well until it got worn out... yada yada yada...
Let me show you something about DAs first two games of 07 and BQs first two games of 08...
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Rushing yards.........144.................143
Pass yds................280.................365
rec/att..................29/56 (51.7%)....39/66 (59.1%)
YPA........................ 5.0 ............... 5.5
TDs....................... 1 .................... 1
INTs...................... 1 .................... 2
QB rating.............. 57 ................... 67
Recs over 20 yds....1...................... 2
Total pts.............. 16 .................... 26
And as a side note, DAs one completion over 20 yards was a screen pass to Harrison....
My opinion.. DA was lucky enough to have some success early, everybody remembers that... to date BQ has not had as much success, the one game he did play well, the defense gave up 21 4th quarter points and we lost....
So if Mangini wants to win an extra game or two this year, switching to DA might be the answer, if Mangini wants to know for sure whether we are drafting a QB in round 1 next year, then Quinn needs to play.
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Welcome, Kelso. 
Most of us long-since abandoned that old board for various reasons. We're glad to have ya.
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Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
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DA at least won13 games in a year and a half under center. Last year was a rough year with the whole team not just DA. Let's see how many games we win with Quinn under center. I have never felt like I do every time we get the ball. EVERY TIME!!! I know and most of us on here know, that nothing good is going to happen.
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So if Mangini wants to win an extra game or two this year, switching to DA might be the answer, if Mangini wants to know for sure whether we are drafting a QB in round 1 next year, then Quinn needs to play.
This is my opinion also. I don't think DA is the answer. I don't know if Quinn is or not. I still don't think he has had enough time to properly evaluate him. Of course so far it isn't looking good. The point is if Quinn isn't the answer then we don't have the answer on the team currently.
Quinn needs to be the starter right now so we know if we need to go get one after the season. Because if he isn't I already know DA isn't. 
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Ok, I'm a rookie to this board but have suffered through the birth defect of being a die-hard Browns fan since the '70's. That said, does anyone REALLY think that a QB change is going to salvage this team? I know that the QB is the most critical position on the team, but there are way too many holes on the roster for a QB change to make a difference - especially given the talent we have to choose from. I say let BQ play out the season, or at least half of it - the season is lost anyway, especially with the Steelers & Ravens in the division. My knee-jerk reaction was to say pull him & put in DA, but that won't change anything. We've seen enough of DA to assess his impact on this team - let's see what Quinn can or can't do over an extended period of time.
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Ok, I'm a rookie to this board but have suffered through the birth defect of being a die-hard Browns fan since the '70's. That said, does anyone REALLY think that a QB change is going to salvage this team? I know that the QB is the most critical position on the team, but there are way too many holes on the roster for a QB change to make a difference - especially given the talent we have to choose from. I say let BQ play out the season, or at least half of it - the season is lost anyway, especially with the Steelers & Ravens in the division. My knee-jerk reaction was to say pull him & put in DA, but that won't change anything. We've seen enough of DA to assess his impact on this team - let's see what Quinn can or can't do over an extended period of time.
With Quinn, were looking at 0-16 possibly, 1-15 realistically....1-15 is a stretch
With Anderson we are more of a 4-12, 5-11 team at worst case, 7-9 or so best case with Anderson
you stick with Quinn, we will be even more of a laughing stock then we currently are now...this team is joke plain and simple
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With Anderson we are more of a 4-12, 5-11 team at worst case, 7-9 or so best case with Anderson
You really think Anderson has the ability to make this team win AT LEAST 4-5 more games than Quinn, and as many as 7 more than Quinn?
This team SUCKS. Period. Joe freakin' Montana could be playing QB and we'd still suck.
Not saying BQ is playing well, because he sucks, too. So does Anderson. So does our O-Line. So do our RB's, and our WR's.
Also, our D-Line, linebackers, and secondary all suck, too.
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Sorry but DA was not God awful for the first 5 weeks. Go back and read what was said after a few of those games. He also was playing after he had a concussion that was reportedly still bothering him. Add in the fact that Edwards was unbelievably bad, dropping quite a few long throws.
I'm not saying that DA did not have to horrendous games. He did. I was all in favor of pulling him last year. i think we made the right choice this year and we should stick with Quinn even though it is painful.
DA might stink but at least there was some excitement from the uncertainty. Watching this offense led by Quinn is worse than watching paint dry..
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I dunno about all that.
With DA at the helm...maybe he doesnt throw the ball better...but he's going to throw it quickly, and hes going to throw it down field. If NOTHING ELSE...he will open the running game, because he will force the defense to back off because if not...he'll throw it over the top.
He prolly wont complete more passes...but itll be nice to see him throw the ball past the sticks. Yesterday we looked like Bruce Arians offense...sort of. We ran like 3-4 routes short of the sticks with Bruce...and yesterday Daboll gave Quinn 1 outlet on every 3rd down that was short of the sticks. Daboll did a good job of getting our players downfield to run routes to force quinn to throw it downfield...but smartly also he did give him an outlet and one guy short of the sticks...and thats who Quinn picked just about every single time. It was pitiful.
Anderson may make some bad decisions...but theyre high risk high reward decisions.
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Sorry but DA was not God awful for the first 5 weeks.
Week 5 was the bye so it was only 4 games... but, yes he was.
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Honestly I think it's time to start DA.
Why? Do you think that Dumervil would look better draped over him than he did draped all over Quinn 
Quinn isn't perfect, but that was only his 5 start in the NFL.. I'll give him more time,, But nobody in that role is gonna reach potiential with a Dlinemen or LB draped over them all day...
denver didn't start blitzing and getting heavy pressure until the 2nd half, after they saw that quinn was now holding on to the ball before checking it down. they made the adjustment and was in his face all day after that. DA made schaffer look good and the entire line look good because he got the ball out quickly.
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after they saw that quinn was now holding on to the ball before checking it down
Not picking on you, really. But, I saw someone earlier say that "Brady checked down too soon without looking downfield".
Do people just make up things to support their position?
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thats what Quinn did last week. It was stated even by Mangini that he rushed his progressions last week.
This week Quinn held the ball much too long. He went the opposite direction
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I think Quinn makes our OL look worse than they are
granted our OL are not world beaters, but they are not as bad as Quinn makes them look
also Anderson helps the run due to his past success with the deeper passes, teams can't stack the box on him as much.
Yes I believe Anderson if the "ball bounces our way a few times" could win 7 games with this team.
Quinn has no confidence, a noodle arm, and is broken mentally...the kid finished, there is no sense elaving him out there
He has allready begun blaming the running game..guess what Brady? you had a running game against the Vikings and you still sucked
until he can lob the ball, teams will not respect him
as long as Brady is in their, it makes it easy for teams
with Anderson we would atleast save some face...as I said before, the problem lies with Lerner, buts thats a whole other thread
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after they saw that quinn was now holding on to the ball before checking it down
Not picking on you, really. But, I saw someone earlier say that "Brady checked down too soon without looking downfield".
Do people just make up things to support their position?
Everybody seems to see different things at different times, especially when the team is playing bad. Some plays he held on to the ball forever, sometimes he was to quick to throw his first option or last option. Example? 3rd and 6 in the 2nd quarter, and he has 5 or 6 seconds in the pocket, yet he throws the quick curl to Cribbs that went a whooping 1 yard and we punted. Then on a 3rd and 11 he throws a pass to Furrey for a whopping 4 yards.
Then we had three straight drives in the 3rd quarter where the score was only 13-6 and we did nothing with the football. Partially Cribbs fault, and then Quinns fault. Our offense showed no urgency or focus and didn't seem to want to help the defense out.
I noticed that. Idk what everyone else thinks about it.
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Not picking on you, really. But, I saw someone earlier say that "Brady checked down too soon without looking downfield".
Do people just make up things to support their position?
no prob. i don't know where that was said but the way i saw it, the first q, he went out of his way to get edwards involved then sputtered in the 2nd quarter. come halftime, denver dialed up the pressure.
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That sounds pretty accurate.
I also saw a 3rd-n-1 where our OLine couldn't budge their DLine and Jamal ran into a brick wall.
Quinn was holding the hell out of that ball early on - I really felt like I was watching Couch again.... are our WR's that bad at getting open??
If they were stacking 8 in the box so often as many want to claim, how could all of our receivers also be so well covered??
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Quinn has no confidence, a noodle arm,
It is for reasons such as this that I will excuse myself from the argument for fear of saying something I'll regret.. a noodle arm.. what a maroon. BQ has not played well but for the love of all that is holy, STOP MAKING CRAP UP!!!!!!!
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That sounds pretty accurate.
I also saw a 3rd-n-1 where our OLine couldn't budge their DLine and Jamal ran into a brick wall.
Quinn was holding the hell out of that ball early on - I really felt like I was watching Couch again.... are our WR's that bad at getting open??
If they were stacking 8 in the box so often as many want to claim, how could all of our receivers also be so well covered??
There were plays where Quinn had some guys wide open and couldn't get them the football. Edwards on a deep in early in the 2nd quarter didn't even get looked at, Massaqqoui got wide open on a skinny post late in the 3rd quarter. Even on the garbage drive at the end of the game Quinn was over and under throwing wide open guys left and right.
Our receivers are not the most talented, but its deff. been a mixture of Quinn holding onto the ball and being inaccurate as well.
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agreed. simply put, it looks like he's waiting for his receivers to get open before throwing the ball, something you can't get away with in the nfl. you need to throw the ball to where the wr is expected to be and let the guy make a play. hard to do when you're scared to throw it.
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But for those who think he looked great.. he was the QB on a hightly touted, supposedly playoff ready offense that put up 10 points.. only 7 of them meaningful. He had about 115 yards passing.. I saw some drops but DA is going to take a disproportionate share of the heat.. sorry, that's life in the NFL.. Just like I think he got a disproportionate amount of credit for our success last year, when things go south, he's going to get his share of the blame. And for the record, I think he looked OK, not quite awsome and wonderful as others have said..
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He looked as decent as everybody else. I don't think he looked particularly sharp but when you have drive killing drops and your defense can't get you the ball back, it's hard to look real good... I can't speak for everybody, but it's going to take more than a second bad game for me (where DA is more obviously the cause) before I start calling for any changes..
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I think this is a pretty big leap.. wasn't one of his 2 passes over 50 a fairly short throw and a long run? And wasn't the other one to Steptoe? Hasn't he been here all along?... From the Steptoe pass, he didn't complete another pass in 4 attempts.. he couldn't get it in the endzone and in the next drive he couldn't complete a pass to get us a first down...
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I could only search the Pure Football forum so their isn't a lot of quotes to go off of. I don't remember DA being awful against the Steelers or Cincy. He was awful against the Ravens in the first game and even worse at Washington.
Granted the Pittsburgh and Dallas games were only ok, but you said horrible.
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I dunno about all that.
With DA at the helm...maybe he doesnt throw the ball better...but he's going to throw it quickly, and hes going to throw it down field. If NOTHING ELSE...he will open the running game, because he will force the defense to back off because if not...he'll throw it over the top.
Yeah because our run game was so good last year when DA was in. Defenses DO NOT drop off when DA is in the game. They crowd the line and blitz the hell out of him and make him throw the shorter hot routes ,and he has struggled in that. Teams learned early in 2007 that if you try to drop back in coverage and allow DA to throw down field he can hurt you. Teams adjusted to that and DA has not been able to respond to it.
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Just Clicking....I was following Pat Kirwin's Chat today. One question made it into him (not from me) regarding Cleveland and our QB situation. Here is his reply. Definitely a valid point on Pat's behalf. If you really read into what Pat is saying, he is saying that Man/Kok basically tore apart the better parts of our team (oline, Winslow, Anderson etc...)
David Ropp, Urbana,Ohio 12:54 PM ET
What is wrong in Cleveland? Pat Kirwan, NFL.com
David, many things. Number one, you still can't rush the passer. Two, your QB situation is questionable at best. Three, your offensive line has taken a step back in pass protection skills and even run blocking. Four, Jamal Lewis is not the RB he was five years ago. Finally, Kellen Winslow is no longer there, which created matchup problems. I wonder if all the people who booed Derek Anderson off the field are considering cheering his return. Remember when he replaced Charlie Frye and the pass protection problems went away immediately? That's because Anderson has a strong arm and is a quick decision-maker. Brady is more a dink-and-dunk passer, and you need a strong running game to succeed with that.
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Quinn has no confidence, a noodle arm,
It is for reasons such as this that I will excuse myself from the argument for fear of saying something I'll regret.. a noodle arm.. what a maroon. BQ has not played well but for the love of all that is holy, STOP MAKING CRAP UP!!!!!!!
How many passes has Quinn completed over 20 yards where the "receiver" was 20 yards away from him? How many?
when is the last time Quinn made a "big play" a play that made the crowd cheer?
Quinn has a noodle arm...if you want to accept that fact or not, thats up to you but it is FACT NFL Scouts knew it, ND fans know, it, and mny of the Quinn Homers are finally starting to see it.
Actually, Charlie Frye may have a better arm then Quinn does....and thats pathetic
Quinn is Noodle arm, he couldn't get the bal to wide open people because "HE LACKS A NFL QUALITY ARM" period.....he just don't have it...you can tell what kind of an arm a QB has within a few games...
you knew right away DA had a big arm
You knew right away Big Ben had a big arm
you knew right away Manning and Warner have big arms
Quinn is a noodle arm....put Anderson out there and the way the ball goes, how far it goes, and how fast it gets there is like night day
I know it sucks, But Quinn is a bust
I gain nothing from Quinn being a bust, I didn't want him to be a bust, I gain nothing but losing football....I was really hoping Quinn would succeed...after yesterday...its very "doubtful" he will be anything but a 3rd string Qb in this league..
it is what it is....i like DA, he has potential, anda big arm..but the jury is still out..
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I don't remember every play... but if BQ against the Ravens, starts the game with 3 consecutive 3 and outs gaining a total of 10 yards.. then ends our only 2 second quarter possessions with INTs, one in the red zone in our only legit chance to get some points before the half... then puts up 2 semi-respectable drives in the second half for FGs and posts 166 yards passing, 6 points, and a QB rating of 44... you will say that it wasn't horrible?
The only reason you probably don't remember it as horrible is because our defense stood up the entire game and despite our anemic offense, we held the Steelers to 10 points so it was a contest until the very end... but throw for throw, stat for stat, DA was every bit as horrible as BQ has been the last 2 weeks.
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There is plenty to complain about when it comes to the QB play. However noodle arm is not one of them. This is an example of someone making things up just to try to push an agenda. No need for it. If you can't find something wrong with his game without making things up then you either aren't watching or you don't know what it is your watching.
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There is plenty to complain about when it comes to the QB play. However noodle arm is not one of them. This is an example of someone making things up just to try to push an agenda. No need for it. If you can't find something wrong with his game without making things up then you either aren't watching or you don't know what it is your watching.
i am NOT pushing an agenda...I gain "NOTHING" for Quinn being a bust, nothing.
Quinn does have a noodle arm...he didn't have the arm to get the ball to open guys
Go back to his colelge days at ND...the kid didn't throw beyond 10 yards very often....every once in a great while.
The kid is throwing 2 yard passes on 3rd and 7, etc
2 yard passes?
Until he can "prove" otherwise, he has a noodle arm
this is no agenda, it is facts based on Empirical Evidence
What we have seen out of Quinn thus far, he is scared or can't throw downfield
From bring all his games played together and weighing this Empircal Data we can "reasonably" come to this assumption
This assumption will stand until Quinn starts gunning the ball sometimes
When Quinn proves he don't have a noodle arm(by completing the 15-35 yard passes on a regular basis and at least trying to throw the ball in that range regularity) then he is noodle arm
if you don't like it, fine...fact remains...the kid is scared, can't, or won't throw downfiled...it is resonable based on Empircal Evidence to assume its the arm
If he proves me wrong, GREAT i'll back off that theory, but until then...prove it...
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knight, quinn really doesn't have a noodle arm. he can physically make the throws. if you want a noodle arm, you look at someone like ken dorsey. that said, quinn's hurdles right now are accuracy and his tendency to throw short. whether he can overcome them or not, i dunno but if he keeps playing this way, the next time DA plays for us, we won't have idiots chanting brady.
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Knight, "noodle arm" means lack of strength, look up Ken Dorsey in the dictionary. Quinn has made questionable decisions, Quinn has had questionable accuracy, Quinn has done a lot of things that you can complain about... but he has also thrown 20 yard crossing routes on a line. Quote:
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2 yard passes?
DA has done that before too, that has nothing to do with arm strength, that is decision making.
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Quinn does have a noodle arm...he didn't have the arm to get the ball to open guys
No man, he really doesn't have a noodle-arm.
What he has to this point is a Tim-Couch arm, which means he can throw it far and hard enough, but he also throws some wounded and inaccurate ducks past the intermediate throws.
Quinn has far more arm-strength than Frye, and Frye TRULY had a noodle-arm. Quinn's arm-strength is on par with Brees. The problem is that he doesn't know where it's going right now.
***Gordon, I really didn't think you could be this stOOpid, but you exceeded my expectations. Wussy.
Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
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I am just as disgusted with BQ as the next guy. I am supremely disappointed in the way he has performed. I was hoping he'd do better.
I felt the same was about DA last year.
No one here should be pining away for either of these two. Yet. We had a good, long time to evaluate DA. He was both very exciting and horribly bad. No one was really sure what we have in BQ. Hence the QB Competition. BQ won. We HAVE to give the kid a shot.
If there is one thing that you can point to for a reason why we have been so consistantly laughable over this last decade is our lack of patience. Our persistant losing has shortened our leash to the point where we see one or 2 bad games and we want to blow the whole thing up and start over. I understand the emotion and hell, Ifeel it too. But we have to let things play out to some degree. We have to fight the urge to rebuild every Monday. It's imperative.
There are many reasons why we've played the way we have this year.
- This QB comp went WAY too long. While the rest of the league was practicing with their ones, we were diddling around with it. Both starters got the impression that neither were good enough ti illicit a decision. And by the time the decision came, there wasn't enough time. So the result was no chemistry and no confidence. That goes for everyone. The line doesn't know if they're protecting a long-baller with lead feet, or a skittish dink-and-dunker. That's got to matter.
- We still have no running game. The rightside of the line is a laugh riot, plain and simple. We saw that yesterday.
- Our brand spankin new OC looks like a worse version of Mo Carthon. I hope I'm wrong but the evidence already in is enough to convict. This guy is horrible.
- The team is two games into it and we look beat up. Totally deflated. It comes with slow starts and it is very hard to overcome. The "oh no, not again" mentality has already shown it's ugly head. And that's a problem.
We have problems that may not be fixed this year. And it looks like seeing a competitve Cleveland Browns team is most likely a longshot this year. Again. But it have very little to do with who's behind center. DA would have gotten MAULED back there yesterday. St Clair would have made sure of it. We've seen what DA looks like with a little pressure applied. For one, with no time, DA's long ball isn't gonna happen. And BQ's happy feet make him useless too. Different QBs, same result.
The problems are way bigger than who's under center. But Magini made sure that whatever confidence these two had was smashed to pieces.
Quinn needs time. But at this point, it seems more likely that we do not currently have our eventual QB on the roster.
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logically, there is an argument. despite caving down the stretch, anderson is the only above .500 QB we've had since the return. quinn, by contrast is .200.....a much smaller body of work, but the liklihood of suceeding without a team around him is very dim.
DA could make plays some plays, yet failed many times trying as well. i guess i just dont understand all the disdain for the QB that gave some fans something to cheer about for the hometown hero that has stunk up the joint.
do you pull him now? of course not.....we're playing for draft position. but you surely do not let him activate his salary escalators is he continues to suck.
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Just wondering aloud here for a moment....
When good DA was on the field he had BE, JJ and KW, most notedly JJ was his go to guy for those tough 1st downs. Fast forward to 2008, BE couldn't catch a cold, JJ was down for the count and we had stallworthless eating a roster spot. Now that we have Furrey, a JJ type of receiver and BE gives all the appearances of being able to catch a football again, could there be a possibility the ingredients are right for a return of good DA?
I was on the dump DA band wagon last year like everyone else. We saw the bad and we had this untested 1st rounder just waiting for his chance. We wanted to if BQ could be that franchise QB we've all so desperately wanted. So now we've seen BQ. What we've seen so far this year out of BQ isn't inspiring and if DA could give us nothing more than to be respectable I'm ready for a change. I just have no faith that BQ is ever going to be a winner.
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Dong, DC, and Toad:
Fair enough, I guess I shouldn't call him a noodle arm...but he does give that appearance with his 2 yard passes
maybe its just his tendency/preference for throwing short
I will say though, his accurancy beyond 10 yards has been bad...worse then even Tim Couch
Tim Couch used to fool a lot of people with his comp% but man, Quinn can't even do that...
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Furrey is nothing like JJ.
BE has caught a few passes (including one that hit him in the chest that he popped up for an almost interception).
No K2.
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Dong:
My only question is this:
why are so many people afraid of Derek Anderson?
Are they scared Anderson will come in and start winning games, and their precious Brady Quinn, the Golden Boy will be out of here?
I firmly believe Anderson can win 5-7 games with this team, Quinn on the other hand we will be lucky to win even 1 game....
Anderson was given up on "way too soon" for what he showed in 2007...a concussion slowed him in 2008 along with injuries to Edwards and a banged OL, and a banged up Lewis
Anderson could easily return to form
I am not so sure we need to draft anyone....
I mean that, this team should go forward with Anderson and invest in the OL, LB, CB, and safety spots and push forward next year
Anderson is good enough to win with, just add a few pieces around him, a fast WR who can catch...and let Anderson chuck the rock...
I think Quinn gets puled at half time of the baltimore game "if" its close....if not...Quinn finishes out a blow out, and Anderson gets the nod against the Steelers...
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Dong:
My only question is this:
why are so many people afraid of Derek Anderson?
Are they scared Anderson will come in and start winning games, and their precious Brady Quinn, the Golden Boy will be out of here?
Afraid of Derek Anderson?
I'm not afraid of him at all. In fact, I know Derek Anderson could come in and play better, probably much better than Quinn right now. However, we already know what Derek Anderson is, 53 % Completions, 2-3 TDs and God knows how many INTS.
We know what Derek Anderson is and Mangini has decided he wants to know what Quinn has instead of taking what Derek Anderson is. Personally, I would like to know if Quinn has any chance of being a good NFL QB or if we need to sign one, because we absolutely know Derek Anderson is not a good starting NFL QB.
you had a good run Hank.
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