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GBN has recently updated their top 100 (12/29/09) Now
it's early,there are more sites but I thought it would be interesting and see what draft gurus would do..

http://www.gbnreport.com/top100.html

7.)
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85.) - Not final yet ..
110) that might change for compensation picks for other teams..not sure..

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7.) Joe Hadden CB Florida
39.) Terrence Cody DT Alabama
71.) Mike Johnson OG Alabama
85.) Morgan Burnett FS Georgia Tech

I'm not a guru though. Picking based on need and ranking on board.


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Based on that list:

7.) Joe Haden, CB, Florida
39.) Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
71.) Jordan Shipley, WR, Texas
85.) Nate Allen, FS, South Florida

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Serious question: Would anyone be upset if the staff chose Dez Bryant?

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IDK, but for this game he is ranked 6th so he is off the board at 7. He also is flagged for Off the Feild issues. Don't know what they are though.


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7.) Joe Haden CB
39.) Bruce Campbell OT
71.) Jordan Shipley WR
85.) Nate Allen FS

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I didn't even notice but mine is identical to urbrowns...

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IDK, but for this game he is ranked 6th so he is off the board at 7. He also is flagged for Off the Feild issues. Don't know what they are though.



As far as I know he talked to Deon Sanders and then lied about talking to him... I don't know that much ever came of it but the lying was an NCAA violation and he was suspended. If there is more to it than that, somebody please let me know.


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Time to throw mine out..

7 - Joe Haden CB Florida
39- Bruce Campbell OT Maryland
71-Jeremy Williams WR Tulane
85-Nate Allen FS South Florida
110-Montario Hardesty RB Tennessee


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39- Bruce Campbell OT Maryland





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7. Derrick Morgan - DE - Georgia Tech
39. Bruce Campbell - T - Maryland
71. Darrell Stuckey - S - Kansas
85. Mike Pouncey - G - Florida
110. Riley Cooper - WR - Florida



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Did two.

7 Joe Haden                 CB        Florida
39 Terrence Cody            DT         Alabama
71 Mike Johnson               OG       Alabama
85 Nate Allen                    FS          South Florida
110 Riley Cooper                WR          Florida





7 Rolando McClain      LB         Alabama
39 Bruce Campbell         OT         Maryland
71 Darrell Stuckey             FS         Kansas
85 Vince Oghobaase         DT         Duke
110 Graham Garrett             TE           Wisconsin



Although they have several juniors listed that have already stated they are returning to school, and others expected to return.


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Wow, Iupati up to #15.

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- #7. Rolando McClain
- #39. Terrence Cody
- #71. Gabe Carimi
- #85. Morgan Burnett
- #110. Montario Hardesty

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Wow, Iupati up to #15.




Realgm.com rankings has him at #10.


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Yikes ... a few months ago, I was hoping to take Berry first, and Iupati second ... now we might just have to take Iupati first.

(and no I'm not serious ... mostly)

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Mine

7.- SS Earl Thomas
39.- TE Aaron Hernandez
71.- OT Gabe Carimi
85. - FS Nate Allen
110.- CB Myron Lewis


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As what always happens..players like Iupati go much earlier than the postion suggests..players you would normally draft in the third get snatched up mid first..early second..

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Berry/Iupati would be sweet. There is still hope, all he has to do is a rob a store or a get a DUI and theres a possibilty he slips...


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I need to call my contacts in Idaho and see if they can get him into a drunken brawl or something. Somebody in Tennessee get on Berry.

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I did two. One if we stay with the 34 and one if we switch the a 4-3


If we stay with the 34
Haden
Campbell
Shipley
Burnett


If we switch to the 4-3 then DE becomes a huge need.
Derrick Morgan
Kareem Jackson
Gabe Carimi
Burnett

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If we went to a 43 then I would do this




7-Carlos Dunlap DE Florida
39-Ryan Matthews RB Fresno State
71-Mike Johnson OG Alabama
85-Syd'Quan Thompson CB California
103-Danario Alexander WR Missouri



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7-Rolando McClain LB Alabama
39-Greg Romeus DE Pittsburgh
71-Darrell Stuckey FS Kansas
85-Kyle Hix OT Texas
103-Danario Alexander WR Missouri





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39- Bruce Campbell OT Maryland





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What I'd take based on our needs IMO

7-Taylor Mays FS USC
39-Kareem Jackson CB Alabama
71-Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin
85-Mike Pouncey OG Florida
103-Rahim Alem DE LSU

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Rolando McClain fans:

Part 1.


Part 2.

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Thanks for posting...i watched most of those games and was not impressed then and I guess this kind of confirms it. Here's my thoughts on him:

The Good
(1) Great anticipation skills
(2) Good speed
(3) Fluid hips and can cover

The bad
(1) Once he gets blocked/engaged he gives up pretty easily, doesn't seem overly physical
(2) Tackles high
(3) Not a great blitzer

Definately don't think he is top 10 material....


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I didn't see what you saw at all to be honest. He did tackle high on occasion, but I think it mostly just seemed that way because he's so tall. I thought he did a great job of getting off blocks and making the tackle in most cases.

And this is part of the reason I hate highlight videos. There's such a small sampling. A biased person putting together the video will completely change opinions on a player.


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7.) Joe Hadden CB Florida
39.) Terrence Cody DT Alabama
71.) Mike Johnson OG Alabama
85.) Morgan Burnett FS Georgia Tech

I'm not a guru though. Picking based on need and ranking on board.




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My next pick would be Vladimir Ducasse out of UMass.

7.) Joe Haden
39.) Jared Odrick
71.) Gabe Carimi
85.) Nate Allen
110) Montario Hardesty

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Thanks for posting...i watched most of those games and was not impressed then and I guess this kind of confirms it. Here's my thoughts on him:

The Good
(1) Great anticipation skills
(2) Good speed
(3) Fluid hips and can cover

The bad
(1) Once he gets blocked/engaged he gives up pretty easily, doesn't seem overly physical
(2) Tackles high
(3) Not a great blitzer

Definately don't think he is top 10 material....




I saw a player who:

-Gives up on the pass rush immediately after being engaged by an OL
-Plays high and displays awkward change of direction
-Has a killer instinct when he can make the play
-Inconsistent motor
-Occasionally takes bad angles, ends up jogging to the play
-Big hitter

In the end, I think he's the next in line of hyped ILBs who falls on draft day.

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I've watched almost every Alabama game dating back to last season. McClain is the real deal, shows up and makes plays in every game.


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I'm not sure about my opinion on him, but I'll take your word for it. What I do like is that he's not the super-ultra-athletic-LB-who-gets-by-on-sheer-talent-then-disappears-in-his-sophomore-season type. I keep reading about his constant film watching, and being a student of the game.

That's an incredibly important trait to me when judging players'.

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I've watched almost every Alabama game dating back to last season. McClain is the real deal, shows up and makes plays in every game.




The proof is in the pudding; if the play gets away from him, he doesn't hustle.

Too many times you see him jogging to outside runs or, when blitzing, running full-height into a guard only to be frozen at the line.

Granted, when the ability to make the big play crosses his face, he makes it happen. Some deficiencies might be hid in the 3-4, but I'm not looking to hide too many deficiencies with our pick @7.

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I don't see that at all. I saw him making plays from the complete opposite side of the field.

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One edge guy that does that constantly is Selvie. I cannot understand how much he's being overlooked in this draft. He may not have a LB's ideal body, but he's a very good pass rusher and makes plays behind the line of scrimmage when the come to his side of the field and stops plays on the other side of the field as well.

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I don't see that at all. I saw him making plays from the complete opposite side of the field.




I've watched each video again, and here's what I've got:

From the first-

-His hustle isn't as hot and cold as I initially thought. Made a nice play on sweep against Florida, where he booked it to the sideline.

-He tackles with his upper body. Whiffs far to often, I didn't see a single clean tackle where he fit up, put his helmet in the numbers, and drove the ballcarrier back.

-He's a highlight reel linebacker; makes the flashy plays, seldom makes the tough ones. Ole Miss section is a good example, one play he blows up the running back and drives him back five yards, the other he overpursues, gets out of position and tries to tackle with his arms--rb blows right past him.

-Plays on his heels, often giving ground.

-Can be handled by one lineman.


From the second-

-There's no way to sugarcoat it, the guy absolutely cannot rush the passer. Some of the blitzes where he got to shoot a gap untouched were nice, but he's out as soon as somebody gets their hands on him.

-For as big as he is, he should be blowing up RB's in pass protection--he isn't.

-In the latter portion of this video, he takes himself out of some plays with bad angles and lack of hustle. Ole Miss sweep left @ 4:00, Florida option right @ 5:00, and the last play--Tebow up the gut--are all good examples.

I guess, for me, it boils down to a lack of tenacity. You get the sense that, despite his reputation, Rolando McClain's the guy opposing coaches mention to their team as the one who "isn't as tough as you've heard. Hit him in the mouth and he'll give up."

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One edge guy that does that constantly is Selvie. I cannot understand how much he's being overlooked in this draft. He may not have a LB's ideal body, but he's a very good pass rusher and makes plays behind the line of scrimmage when the come to his side of the field and stops plays on the other side of the field as well.




The issue I see/heard of with Selvie is that if he gets blocked, he is completely taken out of the game. Is also known to be soft, sort of like a michael johhson from last years draft.


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