DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2013 NFL Season NFL Draft (2013) Browns 3rd Round Pick I: Colt McCoy (QB)

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I can't agree with you on the arm strength. That is my biggest concern with him.

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I can't agree with you on the arm strength. That is my biggest concern with him.

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well.. Colt better get to work....

1) People will say if he doesnt beat out Delhomme/ Wallace he must suck

2) People will say he doesn't throw the ball down the field

3) He has about 6-8 games to prove himself after he gets his shot

McCoy.. Just do you!! WIN!

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And remember.....In college everybody is open, but in the NFL nobody is open.......

It's just as funny reading these posts....Hate the guy, love the guy, waste of a pick great pick....

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To be fair, it was pretty much just me saying I hate the guy and he was a waste of a pick.

I still think it was a waste and would have made more sense to take a WR.

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Right on guy!

Us old dudes know that. Kosar didn't have any trouble either.

As i have posted MANY times......ARM STRENGTH IS WAY OVERRATED!

Accuracy , leadership and work eithic all go in front of a strong arm.

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no, holmgren compared him to montana PERIOD.

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I'll be happy for him to just be Colt McCoy! Screw any comparison! Do what you did in college, be your own man and with a bit of luck things should fall into place!

We can ill afford to screw up another QB!

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Ya know...I could have sworn I read it somewhere that he had concussion problems...but it's not mentioned anywhere.

I guess it's much more likely that I'm just an idiot who's remember the wrong stuff for the wrong people.

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maybe YOU had the concussions...

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However, I just don't like McCoy as a franchise QB. JMHO and my opinion only.

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maybe YOU had the concussions...

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if not, it's not a big deal...

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Who said he is the FRANCHISE QB..... who told you that.., what person in authority told you he was the FRANCHISE QB..

He was picked in the 3rd round.. He was a guy that, for better or worse, was talked about in the 2nd round and some thought 1st round..

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I can't agree with you on the arm strength. That is my biggest concern with him.

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I don't think it's great but I've seen him make some nice long throws... but again, that's not against NFL DBs.

We'll see... I think it's a good pick and like I said if he's not the Franchise QB it's not horrible since he was our third rounder.

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Not trying to get in the middle, just making one post and one post only on this guy I've watched about every Saturday for four years.

Regarding arm-strength:

McCoy doesn't have a big arm. In terms of the average arm of the average starting NFL QB, he has a below-average arm. The argument against that is you don't have to have a strong arm to play in the NFL, you just have to be accurate. Kosar and Sipe are the examples used to show weaker arms can throw in bad-weather places like Cleveland.

But there's a problem with those examples.

No, players don't have to have strong arms, but they DO have to throw tight spirals. Kosar and Sipe did that. McCoy throws a BUNCH of wobblers, and those get eaten up by bad weather.

You don't have to have a strong arm, but you do have to throw tight spirals. That's the only reason Pennington survived in the Northeast. So keep that in mind. If he's able to learn to throw tight spirals, his weaker arm won't mean much. If he can't, he'll never be a viable starter and the pick will have poor value.

On that note, if he doesn't becoming a valuable starter or at LEAST a guy that plays many quality games as a sub or backup, the pick has poor value. Teams expect 3rd rounders to develop into starters. If Colt doesn't do anything more than carry a clipboard, it's a poor pick.

He has all the intangibles a team wants. He's going to be well-liked by players, fans, and media alike. He has excellent mobility and will be able to make plays with his feet better than Quinn and Frye did. Those same feet will allow him the ability to find passing lanes behind bigger linemen. He's smart and will continue to get better because he has a natural mind for the game of football. He's the kind of kid that every coach wants to work with. He does have an accurate arm, but with a limited range.

Unfortunately, his slide to the 3rd round happened because teams viewed the film (but what about his pro-day workouts?!?! ) and saw what we've always known: He throws a wobbly ball and has a pedestrian arm. It's stronger than Frye's but not by much. He'll be affected by the weather and some of his passes won't be close to the mark because he doesn't throw a tight ball with a bunch of rev's to keep it tight. At 6'1, 215 he doesn't have the size to take a bunch of hits in the NFL, and he'll have to work to find passing lanes because he can't see over NFL linemen. His accuracy is elite on the short stuff but will suffer when trying to make NFL throws. This means a limited play-book that's going to make it tougher to move the ball with him in the game.

I'm ok with the selection as long as we aren't planning on McCoy becoming the starter in a few years. He simply doesn't have enough NFL-quality tools to dump all our eggs into his basket as the future starter. If he wows everyone in practice and camp and takes the job, great, but to plan on it would be a huge risk, simply because if we're banking on him, we're not making efforts to find someone else.

He's a better prospect than Frye was for a 3rd rounder but sadly isn't as good a prospect as Quinn. I'm not going to spend the next two years bangin' on him the way I did on Frye or on Quinn, but that won't mean I'm happy if he's slated to be THE next QB of the Browns. He has smarts, leadership, and toughness that Quinn never had, and because of that he stands a chance of overcoming his lack of tools. It just isn't that great of a chance.

By the way, for those that don't think Holmgren will be involved with his QB's, my advice is short and simple:

Don't bet on that.