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‘Embarrassing,” Delhomme says Sep 15th, 2010 @ 11:46 am by Steve Doerschuk Jake Delhomme is in a heavy walking boot that comes up nearly to his right knee. It looks like a heavy plate of plastic armor. Delhomme won’t say he has a high ankle sprain, but that seems to be the case in the wake of his first game as a Brown. “I’m a believer that what happens in the trainer’s room stays in the trainer’s room,” he said. He did admit to undergoing an MRI. Delhomme did not rule himself out of Sunday’s game against Kansas City. “If I can’t play, believe me, we have a good guy who can,” Delhomme said before today’s practice, which he obviously will miss. He was standing up, incidentally. At the same time, he sniffed at a question about whether it would be smart to sit out this game and come back stronger for the next one, at Baltimore. “To me,” he said, “the whole season IS the next game.” Delhomme said he feels he let his team down in the opener. He said the injury bothers him “somewhat … but that’s no excuse.” Delhomme glanced at the ankle boot. “It’s embarrassing,” he said. Knowing that sounded funny, he said, “That’s kind of the way I look at it.” Delhomme’s manner of speaking further underscored the impression he is a strong leader. At some point, he will have to answer the bigger question; Can he play? Can he win? High ankle sprains typically are four- to six-week injuries. Again, he wouldn’t confirm that’s what this is. Again, that was a mighty big boot he was dragging around. Delhomme wasn’t grimacing in pain Sunday when I saw him after the game. Was it one of those deals where the throbbing started later that night and caused him pain into Monday. “Yes,” he said. “Yes … I will say that.” link
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High ankle sprains typically are four- to six-week injuries. Again, he wouldn’t confirm that’s what this is. Again, that was a mighty big boot he was dragging around.
Closer to 6 weeks if that's the case.
This could throw a whole different light on the season.
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I have just as much confidence in Wallace that I did/do in Delhomme.
I know they are not going to win them all, but I think either one of them can score a lot better than Anderson/Quinn... Of course Delhomme's experience is a plus, but then again, he makes mistakes as well.
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I agree, we are going to be one play away from seeing Colt McCoy this Sunday unless JD returns to practice by Friday.
I think it is a real possibility that we see Colt Sunday. That's because when we are putting a beating on them, he will get in for garbage time to keep Wallace healthy if he has to come back the next week to play. No point in having your top two QB's banged up.
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I'll say this. Jake is our starting QB and I want him back in there as soon as he's healthy and ready to go. That being said I love me some Seneca Wallace. I think he's vastly under-rated both here and nationally. I have 100% confidence with him as our QB until Jake is ready to go. In fact I'm stoked to see the Seneca Wallace era officially begin (since he never actually lined up under center against TB).
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That's because when we are putting a beating on them,
Dude, I love the Browns but we ain't putting a beating on anybody this year...... 
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I agree, we are going to be one play away from seeing Colt McCoy this Sunday unless JD returns to practice by Friday.
that is a scary thought, maybe we'll just get a good dose of the cyclone package. Hope it doesn't come too that.
It's possible that Seneca starts, but have Jake dressed and ready as the #2 and McCoy still be #3. Thus giving Jake more time to heal, but he's available should Seneca go down.
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I think having Seneca starting does have one big advantage in that the Cyclone package has a much better chance of catching a team off guard. There's nothing like subbing in your running QB to give away what you want to do.
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I agree but if Wallace is our acting QB with Delhomme out.. I'm not sure I want him out on the edge catching passes and taking direct snaps and plowing forward..
I like Colt McCoy and I want to see what he can do, just not this week. 
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I like Colt McCoy and I want to see what he can do, just not this week.
Just not this year...
If Seneca has a good game I'm all for leaving him in there to see what he can do, after JD is healed.
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I have to say, this is one situation where I can see the rationale behind Mangini not coming out and saying "Delhomme will/won't play."
Delhomme and Wallace have different skill sets, so the Chiefs might prepare a little differently for one versus the other (no matter how small their changes are in preparation).
With DA and BQ, they were both pocket passers (with their abilities generally questionable). But, you could prepare for them similarly.
With Wallace, he not only has a good arm, but he can also scramble. Delhomme is a field general with an okay arm, but he's not going to kill anyone with scrambling.
I fully expect to see Wallace starting and playing this game for us. But, I can see why Mangini might not commit in the press.
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I like Colt McCoy and I want to see what he can do, just not this week.
Just not this year...
If Seneca has a good game I'm all for leaving him in there to see what he can do, after JD is healed.
Well, correct. I'd rather not see him this year but I understand the reality that we might have to if 2 players get hurt.. which is why, if Delhomme is down you do not run Wallace out into the flats and throw him passes where he can get lit up by an aggressive corner.. you keep him in the pocket where he is as protected as he can be until Delhomme comes back.. 
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I just hope after this weekend we don't have Quarterback Controversy version 10.0 .
Well it all depends..if Wallace starts/plays and he outperforms JD ,then you'll have one..if he plays and doesn't outperform him..well people will complain..I already am aware of Delmonte is..and he's not one (as I mentioned) I would have brought in and not at that price-tag..Seneca,I like as a backup..he's been a backup for a reason ,just not a quality starter..but lets see what happens..
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Well it all depends..if Wallace starts/plays and he outperforms JD ,then you'll have one..if he plays and doesn't outperform him..well people will complain..I already am aware of Delmonte is..and he's not one (as I mentioned) I would have brought in and not at that price-tag..Seneca,I like as a backup..he's been a backup for a reason ,just not a quality starter..but lets see what happens..
I've been impressed with Wallace thus far.
I don't think there will be much of a controversy if Wallace plays himself into the starting slot. Delhomme has done nothing but prove his detractors right at this point. Head case? Check. Gunslinger? Check. Interception prone? Check.
Granted, his body of work isn't all that exhaustive here in Cleveland but I have nowhere the level of confidence in JD that I had coming out of pre-season. Am I jumping the gun and throwing him on the scrap-heap waaaay too early? You bet. But that's what we do here in Cle-town.
I hope to hell Wallace comes in, lights the place up and wins the job. Nothing against JD.
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Did we cut Pashos or something? link The Delhomme decision and other Friday notes Sep 17th, 2010 @ 10:36 am by Steve Doerschuk D’Qwell Jackson and Shaun Rogers will practice today. Jake Delhomme will not. As to starting Seneca Wallace at quarterback against the Chiefs … “I’d like to go through today (before deciding),” Mangini said. “Seneca’s done a really nice job throughout the week. He and Brian (Daboll) have done a really nice job working together.” Delhomme has spent the week in the trainer’s room. Just a one-game thing for Delhomme? “I’d like to think so,” Mangini said. “(But) sometimes you think it’s one (week) and it’s two.” Mangini said the players show “a real sense of confidence in (Wallace).” “He’s another leader that has a presence with everybody. It’s nice to see.” • • • Jackson won’t necessarily play against the Chiefs. “We’re gonna take it slow … being the first day back,” Mangini said. • • • Mangini told a funny story about having Romeo Crennel as a house guest in New England when Romeo had just arrived from Cleveland. Crennel needed a place to stay until he settled in. “We hung out … obviously, we snacked,” Mangini said. Mangini called Crennel “one of the best pure human beings I know.” • • • Mangini said Rogers “should be able to play.” • • • Mangini said the starting right tackle Sunday will be “probably John St. Clair.”
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I don't think they cut Pashos.. must still not be physically able?
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The guy plays only one half before getting injured which affected his play and some of you are ready to throw in the towel? I think it's time to quit blaming the media for all the QB controversies. Fans that are so impatient is the cause.
This comment is towards those who actually supported him. People Like Attack Dawg have been consistent in their skepticism.
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Did Jake get injured on the interception play before the half? Thought I read that somewhere.
I want Jake to do well, and/or Seneca. Actually the ideal thing would be for Colt to come in and play lights out, and just keep going that way. Sure it's fantasy but those are about the only warm fuzzies ya get from the Browns, the ones that aren't real.
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Colt did say in that show "Hey Rookie Welcome to the NFL" that he is adjusting to being a back-up again and he will be patient and work and learn and absorb but whenever he gets his chance and makes it onto the field, he ain't coming off.. I like the kid a lot and hope he does well.
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The guy plays only one half before getting injured which affected his play and some of you are ready to throw in the towel? I think it's time to quit blaming the media for all the QB controversies. Fans that are so impatient is the cause.
I agree that it's too soon to cut bait on JD. But one reason why the leash is so very short is that the guy came over with major questions following a HORRIFIC breakdown. You don't have to see a full season to recognize that last season can spill over to this one.
I'm not saying that JD is washed up and I still have every hope that he will pull it together and have a good season but it's not like he came here with a clean slate. His recent body of work is a red-flag (one that scared off pretty much the entire list of QB hungry teams) and he needed to prove, right away, that last year was an anomoly.
And he didn't do that.
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Call me crazy...but I honestly think we're going to see the start of the Seneca Wallace era. Call it a gut feeling
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Call me crazy...but I honestly think we're going to see the start of the Seneca Wallace era.
Call it a gut feeling
If so, then I have a gut feeling we will soon see the start of the Jake Locker/Andrew Luck era.
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Did Jake get injured on the interception play before the half? Thought I read that somewhere.
yeah the blitzer hit him in the back of the leg right above the foot. I think it should have been a penalty for low hit on the QB.
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Honestly, I don't think so....I think Wallace is going to surprise people and play well on Sunday and come Monday, we'll have various posters calling for him to start.
Odds may be against that but I think we're in for a shock.
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Call me crazy...but I honestly think we're going to see the start of the Seneca Wallace era.
Call it a gut feeling
If so, then I have a gut feeling we will soon see the start of the Jake Locker/Andrew Luck era.
that's a bad thing since we're at the beginning of this season, but getting Andrew Luck could be a very good thing for years to come. he's by far my favorite of the QBs this year (over Locker, Mallet)
of course, i'd prefer that Colt somehow really is the answer and we can steal somebody like Michael Floyd this year in the draft
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The guy plays only one half before getting injured which affected his play and some of you are ready to throw in the towel? I think it's time to quit blaming the media for all the QB controversies. Fans that are so impatient is the cause.
This comment is towards those who actually supported him. People Like Attack Dawg have been consistent in their skepticism.
I was ready to pounce on your post until I read the last 2 sentences.....LOL
I, too, was ready to throw in the towel the day we signed Delhomme. I'm not happy he is injured, but I am not unhappy that he is now on the sideline.
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Honestly, I don't think so....I think Wallace is going to surprise people and play well on Sunday and come Monday, we'll have various posters calling for him to start.
Odds may be against that but I think we're in for a shock.
When will we get a true franchise QB? The ones we have do not fill that roll. 
I think come Monday we still won't have a franchise QB on this team. 
Just wait till next season, I have heard that for over 40 years!
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Honestly, I don't think so....I think Wallace is going to surprise people and play well on Sunday and come Monday, we'll have various posters calling for him to start.
Odds may be against that but I think we're in for a shock.
When will we get a true franchise QB? The ones we have do not fill that roll.
I think come Monday we still won't have a franchise QB on this team.
We will never have a franchise QB until we are stable enough to develop one.
Holes in every skill position prohibit that.
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He's been listed as doubtful since Friday. And we play today, not tomorrow.
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Holes in every skill position prohibit that.
This is one of the biggest fallacies this board has put out since I've been reading and posting here.
Get the franchise guy and the wins will come.
They won't until we do. And it has nothing to do with the other positions.
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Holes in every skill position prohibit that.
This is one of the biggest fallacies this board has put out since I've been reading and posting here.
Get the franchise guy and the wins will come.
They won't until we do. And it has nothing to do with the other positions.
I disagree, simply based on the reason that you have to go back to Peyton Manning and Donovan McNabb in 1998 and 1999, respectively, to find teams that were doing poorly until they drafted a franchise QB, at which point they turned everything around. Even the Eagles are a bit of stretch there, too, because they had a couple awful seasons in the late 90s but were consistently in the playoffs in the mid 90s.
I'd say the closest things we have currently are Carson Palmer and Matt Ryan, but the Bengals have been a rollercoaster for the past decade, and the jury is still somewhat out on Matt Ryan.
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Bottom line is it's a team game and you have to some horses in other areas of the team besides QB to really be successful. But a QB makes the team, not the other way around. A great QB elevates the players around him.
I know others will probably disagree with this, but I find it hard to believe that our drafts over the last several years are that much worse than teams who have perennial success but also have an established franchise QB. For example, do you think Jermichael Finley - drafted in the third round by the Packers - would have been anything in Cleveland? The guy would have failed, we would have called him a bust, and the wheel spins round and round. Sticking with the Packers, go back and look at their drafts for the last several years. Fairly underwhelming, and now it looks like they just missed on Hawk. They also have a mediocre OL. But they had a franchise QB and transitioned right into another one. Barring injury, they are going to be one of the last teams standing.
The worst part about all of this for the Browns is we could have a pretty damn good offense with a great QB considering our OL.
Worst case, a great QB takes this team to 8-8 as it is currently constructed. One or two more good drafts and a piece or two from FA, and we could be one of those perennial teams.
It won't be fun, but if any of these QBs coming out next year can be that guy, I'd just assume lose most of our games.
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