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With all the talk about how bad our WRs are I decided to take a peek at who was available. Here's a list of available WRs that have shown they have decent talent in the league.

Reggie Brown 5 years 177 catches 2574 yards 17 tds in Philly
Michael Clayton 6 years 221 catches 2936 yards 10 tds in TB
Laveranues Coles 10 years (43 catches 514 yards 5tds last year in Cin)
Torry Holt 11 years (51 catches 722 yards last year in Jac)
Josh Reed 8 years 311 catches 3575 yards 10 tds in Buf
Bobby Wade 8 years (176 catches 2120 yards 9 tds last 4 years in KC, Min, and Ten)

None of these guys are world beaters. Coles and Holt are near the end of their careers but can still produce. I would think that any of these guys could help us.

Are they on other PS's ?

Michael Clayton plays for the Rams.

Pretty sure Reggie Brown plays for the Jags.

Mark Clayton plays for the Rams

So, these guys aren't just "available" and we just go get them,...that was my question.

What good is a list of "non-availables."

And what talent would we trade for such improvement ?

Might as well bring back Brandon McDonald.

Not according to NFL.com or the Bucs website.

Brown and Clayton were cut by TB, Coles is most likely done and was cut by the Jets, Holt injured his knee (didn't remember that one), Reed was cut by SD, and Wade was released by Was.

Not sure where you saw Clayton hurt his knee. He was a disappointment in TB after they took him in the 1st and they took 2 wrs in the draft this year.

If any of them are crippled, they're better than what we're getting now,....

All these guys ARE available, they are listed as CUT on NFL.com and I couldn't find any of them on a roster.

I meant "non" as in would they be any better,...even crippled they might be, but that still wouldn't be too smart.

Then, would they sign for the vet minimum, and who do you bench ?

Well since Robo and Massa haven't really done anything all year, why have them on the field?

So what we need right now are old WR's that no other team wants?

Yep, that should fix the problem real quick this season.


Another example of taking guys that no other team wanted: Delhomme & Wallace

You are not going to help this team in the slightest bringing in guys that are sitting at home watching the games on TV.

so what do you tell them to get them here ?
we have a great QB that can get you the ball.... oh and the play calling will for sure be there for you...

The Browns fans are the greatest...

Really... An 0-3 team.. that is already having ppl wanting coaches fired and players benched... Not an appealing offer is it ?

Here's a check for thousands of dollars that you aren't getting right now!!

None of these guys are getting paid right now.

I know the Pats released Torry Holt, but didn't he have a knee injury that would require surgery?

My bad, thought a solution to our WRs not producing or getting any separation would be to get a WR that has at least produced in this league.

Our WRs aren't going to get any better this season. I thought trying to get another WR would at least be an upgrade to nothing.

What did SW throw to Mass today, once ? And Robo is useless injured.

It's a mess.

Good thing we can run the ball,...

heres your guys...

Brown....The guy has an history of injuries....Got knocked out hard when he played @ Georgia...

Clayton...At Tampa his best season was 484 yds... in 09 he had 230 yds...

Coles... He`s 32....Just doesn`t make sense to me for the age factor...jmo...

Holt...Played great w the Rams..one year w the Jags totalled up 722 yds...The prob is when he went to thePats he blew out a knee...

Reed...he`s 30...had 291 yds w the Bills....I can see why the Chargers let him go....

Wade... well he played with 4 teams in 8 seasons...lets not make it 5 ...

That's why I thought it might be a good idea to take a look at adding another WR. Mass and Robo have a combined 5 catches through 3 games. Stuckey has 5 and Cribbs has 10.

The last two games our WR not named Cribbs have a combined 3 catches.

According to Bernie the problem is our WR getting open not the QB.

Well to be fair, Bernie Kosar is admittedly biased towards the QB

And also, Laverneus Coles was cut by the Jets because if he was on their roster for the first week of the season he was guaranteed his full salary and they didn't want to take the salary hit. I thought they were going to bring him back some time this year, but maybe not. He had a pretty good camp and preseason.

I really wanted to believe the FO when they endorsed this WR group. It is clear now that they had no idea what they were talking about.

A post doesn't have to be quoted to "send direction."

J/C

The grass always seems a little greener somewhere else.

At this point it is what it is. I don't think all of the 31 other teams in the league are manned by incompetents. If any other these guys brought any real value as a last spot roster filler, they would be filling a roster spot.

I do think we need to do something with the position, but maybe it can be done internally. I haven't seen Stucky used much and he was looking good in pre-season...let's give Michael a few plays a game.

The problem is Robo....he can't get open and unlike MoMass, doesn't have the size which gives Mo some advantage on almost any ball thrown his way.

The new guy...can't think of his name at the moment.... is another who should get worked in to the mix.

I'd start playing Stuckey, Michael, and the new guy a lot more to look for the compliment to Mo and play Robo a lot less.

When Robo was drafted it was assumed by me and I know some others the guy was going to be a slot/possession option....not a split end. Start playing him in that role...maybe he can beat safeties and nickels, or backers in the short zone.

Robiske is actually an inch taller than Massaquoi.

Do you mean Mitchell, and not Michael? If you meant Mitchell, he was out with some sort of head injury this week. I hope that he can develop .... but he is RAW. Still .. speed is speed ... and I bet he could get open. Whether or not he can catch the ball though ......

I am going to say one thing that will, no doubt, be flamed like crazy ..... but I would take Cribbs off of WR duty. I would use him instead 4-7 snaps/game at wildcat/RB/Mix the formations up .... and get him back to being a premiere kick returner. I know that doesn't leave a lot at WR ..... but we haven't had a lot at WR even with him. It seems like the few throws that used to go to Massaquoi are now going to Cribbs ...... but nothing is really opening up for anyone. I just think that this would be a better use of his abilities. He has to ba able to throw out of the Wildcat though ..... because right now we telegraph the Wildcat bigtime.

One twist I would like to see on the Wildcat if we keep Cribbs at WR is have Hillis in the backfield in a standard type set. Then motion Hillis out wide to a 5 wide look, and then motion Cribbs to the backfield. I can see this causing us some problems until we practice the timing./set bugs out of it ...... but man this would cause defenses major problems trying to figure out what's going on. We could then snap to Cribbs ..... keep him in to block ...... throw to him out of the backfield ...... or hand it off to him and either have him run or pass from that position. Mayhem! I just think it would be better than tipping our hand with formation having him line up in the backfield.

If Cribbs is our best playmaker, we should have him moving all over the offensive set making teams try to figure out where he is, and is going. Right now he is just lining up ..... and frankly, I don't think that he's a good enough WR to be "just" a WR.

I don't think Robo plays as big, though i did think he was shorter.


Yes Mitchell.....is it Michael Mitchell??

Carlton Mitchell.

You were close though .. they're both names .....

If he does the Carlton after his first touchdown he will forever be one of my favorite players.

Hell, bring back Bobby Engram... though it won't do any good. Seneca doesn't throw to WR's. Chansey Stucki gets open and doesn't even get a wiff of the ball. Someone needs to teach Seneca how to throw a play action, or a slant, or a crossing pattern, maybe an in, or an out. When was the last time we saw any of that? What good does it do to bring in WRs when they never get passes thrown to them?

I think our WR will look better once we get Delhomme back in there. Wallace has done a good job, he's done a backups job. But I think with Delhomme back in the mold he will be able to hit those guys downfield and on the sidelines. That's if he is healthy when they bring him back, neither of these guys are our future but I think Delhomme will do a better job while we try and find that guy. Be it McCoy or someone we have yet to draft.

Is Engram available?

I'm probably wrong, but I thought he got picked up ? He's not on our PS,....

veterans cannot be on a PS.

From what I see, Engram is without a team. Though, I wouldn't expect much out of him if we did sign him.

Good catch, thanks.

I can't find him anywhere,....

I feel like any of those guys HAVE to be better than MoMass and Robo. If any of them can catch I would be willing to take them.