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I have tried to find a list of the current free agents at WR but can only find before the season started. I am wondering if anyone knows where to go, or can post a list here so we can discuss who would be a better option at WR...Robo is aweful and we need to get rid of him, but just like with Wright I'd like to know who would/could be a better option moving forward.
I like what MoMass & Chansi are doing at WR when given the chance, but after that we are terrible. Cribbs shows flashes but we need a REAL WR.
I was one who was laughed at for suggesting we draft Dez Bryant, and also laughed at when I mentioned given T.O. a contract....I would take either guy any day of the week over what we have right now!
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I never wanted Dez Bryant. But, not because I felt like we didn't need a receiver, but because I didn't think Dez Bryant was worth the hype.
But, I was always on board with bringing in T.O.
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Did you see the video of TO completely quitting on a route and allowing Palmer to be picked yesterday?
He looked at the defender coming over, looked at the ball, and damn near stopped running and gave the Colts an INT.
No thanks. He can be great, He always is poison.
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Bryant is tearing it up in Dallas....I was wondering what is Coles and Javon Walker up to these days? Could they do anything more than Robo is doing?
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My grandmother can do more than Robiskie is doing right now.
(I refuse to call him "Robo", he doesn't deserve a nickname lol).
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2011 NFL Free Agent WR's It's hard to forecast anything that will happen in free agency with the CBA tied up the way it is. So it's hard to tell who will be restricted/unrestricted this off-season.
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I was all for renting Moss for the rest of the year. I think its amazing that we manage to put forth a decent offensive effort when opposing teams know that we don;t have a single legit threat at WR.
If we don't go WR in the first round next year, I'll be beyond shocked.
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I just keep hoping every week we would get to see Carlton Mitchell in action.
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I just keep hoping that there will be a report that someone ........... anyone ...... has taken Robiske's starting job away from him. I wonder how he would react to losing his job? If this year has been any indication, it would probably be something like .... "Oh, OK. I can sit for the whole game and not have to work then?" 
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I agree. AJ Green or Julio Jones or bust in the 1st round next year.
Unless we can get Akeem Ayers.
Or Bruce Carter.
Or Prince Amukamara.
The guy I really want is only a junior and is coming off a big injury. Kyle Rudolph from Notre Dame.
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Oh, OK. I can sit for the whole game and not have to work then?
I think Robiske's problem is that he does work. All week up to the game. Then he just can't make it work during the game.
He's just a practice player.
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I can't argue with you, but I believe we have a lot of FA players - and if we don't sign them, we have a lot of holes to fill. At this point, my hope is for AJ Green
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If we can't get one of the top 2 receivers, I say we go with Patrick Peterson.
Peterson, Haden, Ward in our secondary would bode VERY well for this teams future.
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I dont really get to follow College ball the way Id like to, I have no clue what stud WR's are coming out in the draft this year.
What FA are avalible now, Would Coles be able to do anythng? Javon Walker?
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I don't know. He is just so completely inept during the games that I find it hard to believe that he does much during practice. I suspect that the coaches don't want to give up on him yet, so they keep talking him up ..... but man, he is really killing us out there. He plays like he just doesn't care.
It's like the Brady Quinn commercial ..... He'll make his 1 catch ..... and then it's "Now I'm done".
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Here's a few of the wr's coming out of college:
A.J. Green Georgia
Julio Jones Alabama
Jonathan Baldwin Pittsburgh
Michael Floyd Notre Dame
Devier Posey OSU
Justin Blackmon Oklahoma St. My personal favorite if he comes out!!!
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Here's a few of the wr's coming out of college:
A.J. Green Georgia
Julio Jones Alabama
Jonathan Baldwin Pittsburgh
Michael Floyd Notre Dame
Devier Posey OSU
Justin Blackmon Oklahoma St. My personal favorite if he comes out!!!
I did get to see AJ Green play he looks like he will be pretty good coming out, dont know much about the rest of these guys
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Frenchy mentioned Justin Blackmon from Oklahoma State in another thread. He is a redshirt sophomore and he got a DUI earlier in the year, but he is an elite WR prospect to go along with Green and Jones.
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I've watched Blackmon the last two games and he's an amzing WR talent. I know he got the DUI, I'm just hoping it was an aberration on his part and not an indication on his future, 
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I agree. AJ Green or Julio Jones or bust in the 1st round next year.
Oh if this team even takes a WR in the 1st rd next year I will freakin vomit!
Our 1st Rd pick should be in emphasis no order:
1. DE
2. DT
3. OLB
4. ILB
5. S
6. RT
7. CB
8. WR
WR can be found in the 2nd and 3rd rds..the 2nd rd has been a "treasure trove" for WR in recent years...Desean Jackson, Chad Johnson just to name two off the top of my head.
Hines Ward (3rd rd), Brandon Marshall(4th rd) are others....
if we want to win regularly we will do it with Defense....our 1st rd pick should focus on that area..we can get a WR in the 2nd, 3rd and even 4th rds....good receivers too
we can also sign someone via Fa as well...and its still too early to judge MoMass and Robo...its takes 3 years for receivers to really come on...we need to give these guys a chance.
Also scheme may have more to do with production then the receivers themselves..its not like we throw to them alot...neither does NE..our passing game is centered on the TE and RB...just like NE...we don't throw to our receivers enough this year to get any kinda guage at all..
If Heckert is smart, likes his job, and wants to win here...He will finish the job he started rebuilding our D secondary by fixing this abysmal Front 7...one impact player on the Front 7 could be a 4 game swing....our Front 7 blows chunks...and it needs addressed far more then Wr if we ever hope to win anything here...
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If we can't get one of the top 2 receivers, I say we go with Patrick Peterson.
Peterson, Haden, Ward in our secondary would bode VERY well for this teams future.
Good luck getting PP outside of the top 5.
As I've said previously, A.J. Green and Julio Jones are the top 2 guys on my board. They are the two best receivers since Calvin Johnson. I would take either one over Dez Bryant or Michael Crabtree.
After those two, there isn't a WR I love in the 1st round. If they're gone, I would turn to defense. Peterson would be great, but the odds of us having a shot at him are almost zil. After him, Prince Amukumara is a stud, but he will probably be top 10 as well.
I'm a huge fan of Justin Houston out of Georgia, and he's probably my #5 guy right now. He already plays in a 3-4, and has 10 sacks this year. Quite simply, he's a beast.
Allen Bailey, Cameron Heyward and Cameron Jordan are all options at 3-4 end as well.
There are plenty of guys out there that fit our needs.
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WR can be found in the 2nd and 3rd rds..the 2nd rd has been a "treasure trove" for WR in recent years
You mean like Kevin Johnson (2nd rd), Dennis Northcutt (2nd rd), Quincy Morgan (2nd rd), Andre Davis (2nd rd), and Travis Wilson (3rd rd)?
History says that usually the good receivers are snapped up in the 1st round, so if we don't go WR in the first round we better have a Plan B in free agency.
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WR can be found in the 2nd and 3rd rds..the 2nd rd has been a "treasure trove" for WR in recent years
You mean like Kevin Johnson (2nd rd), Dennis Northcutt (2nd rd), Quincy Morgan (2nd rd), Andre Davis (2nd rd), and Travis Wilson (3rd rd)?
History says that usually the good receivers are snapped up in the 1st round, so if we don't go WR in the first round we better have a Plan B in free agency.
Dont forget MoMass and Robo!
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yeah, it's funny. it seems nearly every position the best players were selected in the 1st round.
as if all that $$$ they pay scouts helps them determine which players have the highest ceiling (even if some % of them do end up busting)
for WRs, best ones currently:
Roddy White
Calvin Johnson
Larry Fitzgerald
Andre Johnson
What round were those guys picked in?
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3rd round or later right? 
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I'm not that big of a fan of Julio Jones myself...sometimes he seems like he gets a case of the dropsies.
AJ Green though...yes please. I'd also be happy with Baldwin, Floyd or the guy from OKST *name escapes me right now.*
you had a good run Hank.
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Look at the type of player we have on this team.. None quitters, give 110% all the time,, no cry babies, no headaches... No way Moss or T.O. fit into that bunch No way No how.., Besides, a guy like Hillis would kick thier butts.. so what good would they be from a hospital bed?  I was expecting a jump in production from Robo and MoMass.. Mo is doing ok.,, I really don't have a problem with him.. Very disappointed with Robo however. I mean, I understand that we've had 3 different QBs this year and certainly, that may have slowed his progress,, but damn, it shouldn't stop it altogether... As for who's gonna be available,, with the CBA up in the air,, who knows...
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How much have you watched Julio this year? He's dropped very few passes. In the past, it was an issue, but it seems to have been corrected for the most part. He catches with his hands too.
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How much have you watched Julio this year? He's dropped very few passes. In the past, it was an issue, but it seems to have been corrected for the most part. He catches with his hands too.
I've seen some Alabama games, not as many as last year.
It just seems like he loses focus sometimes and looks up field too quickly. He's kinda like a rich man's Braylon in that he can make some ridiculous catches then have total brain farts.
To put it a different way, I'd take AJ Green over JJ 9 times out of 10.
you had a good run Hank.
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You mean like Kevin Johnson (2nd rd), Dennis Northcutt (2nd rd), Quincy Morgan (2nd rd), Andre Davis (2nd rd), and Travis Wilson (3rd rd)?
History says that usually the good receivers are snapped up in the 1st round, so if we don't go WR in the first round we better have a Plan B in free agency.
There have been more receivers come out of the later rds and do well then the opposite.
lets see here:
Steve Largent 4th rd (Argued by many to be better then Jerry Rice)
Hines Ward 3rd rd (Any question he is a hall of famer?)
Chad Johnson/Ochocinco 2nd rd(Led NFL in receiving yards 3 straight seasons)
Terrell Owens 3rd rd (Hall of Fame 3rd on all time TD List)
Webster Slaughter 2nd rd (Two Pro Bowls for Browns)
Reggie Langhorne 7th rd (Very solid receiver for us)
Michael Jackson 6th rd (Led the NFL in TD receptions in 96 with 14 TD. Cuahgt 46 TD passes in his career)
John Taylor - 3rd rd pick
Andre Reed 4th rd
Anquan Boldin 2nd rd
Desean Jackson 2nd rd
I mean "really" the only really good receivers worth a top 10 pick to come out of the NFL Draft in my lifetime are Jerry Rice, Andre Rison and Michael Irvin...thats it...none of these other bum WR to come out of the NFL draft since have done anything really outside of Rice and Irvin, and Rison...
outside of Andre Johnson or Fitzgerald, receivers taken in the 1st the last few years haven't done anything...and guys like Maclin sure are not setting the world on fire in Philly either.
Calvin Johnson = overated...he hasn't done anything...Braylon Edwards had 1 good year over 1,000 yards that it. Santonio Holmes has only had 1 good year over 1,000 yards tooo
these 1st rd receivers have not set the world on fire in recent years...however the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rds have produced way more productive receivers over the years then the 1st rd has
thats a small list there are "tons" more productive late rd receivers then there are 1st rd bust out guys
you want good WR..your smart bet is on guys in the 2nd and 3rd rds...thats where they are.....
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You mean like Kevin Johnson (2nd rd), Dennis Northcutt (2nd rd), Quincy Morgan (2nd rd), Andre Davis (2nd rd), and Travis Wilson (3rd rd)?
History says that usually the good receivers are snapped up in the 1st round, so if we don't go WR in the first round we better have a Plan B in free agency.
There have been more receivers come out of the later rds and do well then the opposite.
lets see here:
Steve Largent 4th rd (Argued by many to be better then Jerry Rice)
Hines Ward 3rd rd (Any question he is a hall of famer?)
Chad Johnson/Ochocinco 2nd rd(Led NFL in receiving yards 3 straight seasons)
Terrell Owens 3rd rd (Hall of Fame 3rd on all time TD List)
Webster Slaughter 2nd rd (Two Pro Bowls for Browns)
Reggie Langhorne 7th rd (Very solid receiver for us)
Michael Jackson 6th rd (Led the NFL in TD receptions in 96 with 14 TD. Cuahgt 46 TD passes in his career)
John Taylor - 3rd rd pick
Andre Reed 4th rd
Anquan Boldin 2nd rd
Desean Jackson 2nd rd
I mean "really" the only really good receivers worth a top 10 pick to come out of the NFL Draft in my lifetime are Jerry Rice, Andre Rison and Michael Irvin...thats it...none of these other bum WR to come out of the NFL draft since have done anything really outside of Rice and Irvin, and Rison...
outside of Andre Johnson or Fitzgerald, receivers taken in the 1st the last few years haven't done anything...and guys like Maclin sure are not setting the world on fire in Philly either.
Calvin Johnson = overated...he hasn't done anything...Braylon Edwards had 1 good year over 1,000 yards that it. Santonio Holmes has only had 1 good year over 1,000 yards tooo
these 1st rd receivers have not set the world on fire in recent years...however the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rds have produced way more productive receivers over the years then the 1st rd has
thats a small list there are "tons" more productive late rd receivers then there are 1st rd bust out guys
you want good WR..your smart bet is on guys in the 2nd and 3rd rds...thats where they are.....
You think Megatron hasnt done anything? How about making a cast off Shawn Hill look like a All-Pro QB?
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Calvin Johnson
Larry Fitzgerald
Andre Johnson
Those guys are not even the best receivers in football
take a look at NFL.Com's top Receiving list fort WR
1. Brandon Lloyd (4th rd)
2. Terrelle Owens (3rd rd)
3. Miles Austin (Undrafted)
4. Brandon Marshall (4th rd)
5. Mike Wallace (3rd rd)
looks like the later rds is where you find receivers to me...
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Let's not forget Keenan McCardill.. Drafted in the 12th round by the Redskins..
He had a decent career.....
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You have got to be kidding me. I can understand the argument for not wanting a WR in round 1. But if you try to argue that Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald and Roddy White are not the 3 best WR's in football, you will be laughed out of here. No one comes close. I don't care about your stats: stats are now, and always have been, FOR LOSERS.
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Calvin Johnson
Larry Fitzgerald
Andre Johnson
Those guys are not even the best receivers in football
take a look at NFL.Com's top Receiving list fort WR
1. Brandon Lloyd (4th rd)
2. Terrelle Owens (3rd rd)
3. Miles Austin (Undrafted)
4. Brandon Marshall (4th rd)
5. Mike Wallace (3rd rd)
looks like the later rds is where you find receivers to me...
Which list are y'all looking at? The yards list for this year goes..
Brandon Lloyd - 4th
Roddy White - 1st
Terrell Owens - 3rd
Andre Johnson - 1st
Reggie Wayne - 1st
Hakeem Nicks - 1st
Miles Austin - UDFA
Calvin Johnson - 1st
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This is a ridiculous statement.
In 2008 Johnson had 1,331 yards and 12 TD's with Dan Orlovsky taking the majority of the snaps at QB and with the 2nd best receiver on the team was Shaun McDonald.
In 2009, in 14 games, Johnson 984 yards and 5 TD's with Matthew Stafford in his rookie year and with a washed up Dante Culpepper starting five games.
This year, so far, Johnson has 679 yards and 9 TD's with Shaun Hill taking the majority of the snaps.
But no, he, "hasn't done anything".
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thank you others for posting the ridiculousness of KoB's assertion as I am too flustered by his off-the-wall comment to go too in depth.
KoB, the 1st round is the best place to draft practically ANY position and the best players from the position tend to be from that round as well. Yes, there will be good players found in later rounds, but your odds greatly increase in round1.
I wrote up in detail for QB last year. Perhaps I will take the time at some point to show it for WR definitively.
But, to say that Roddy, Andre, Calvin, Fitz, and Wayne (can't believe I forgot him off my list) are not the top WRs is just ludicrous (Miles Austin is good but Dez Bryant has played better for the Cowboys this year after the first few weeks when he was still learning).
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You have got to be kidding me. I can understand the argument for not wanting a WR in round 1. But if you try to argue that Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald and Roddy White are not the 3 best WR's in football, you will be laughed out of here. No one comes close. I don't care about your stats: stats are now, and always have been, FOR LOSERS.
Im not saying Johnson, Johnson, and Fitzgerald are NOT the best WR in the league...they are...that doesn't mean there "that" good
I am just saying similar production can be had in later rds...WR is a buyers market....
there have many many good late rd WR....we already tried this with Braylon...lets try something different and go D for a change and let Heckerty draft his DeSean Jackson in the 2nd rd...
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Just because it failed once doesn't mean it will this time. Braylon wasn't nearly as good of a prospect as either Green or Jones. The Lions got a good WR on their 4th try.
I do, however, understand your argument. Many good WR's can be found in later rounds. But, like any position, you have the best chances of getting a stud, or just a good player, in the first. When a team has as desperate of a WR need as the Browns do, I think you need to address it early, and make sure it isn't a problem anymore.
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