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Tier 1: 1-10
CB Patrick Peterson
Much more then just a good CB. He can also impact your special teams units. Peterson's total assets to a team puts him at the top of his class.
DE Da'Quan Bowers±
After April 1st (his pro day date) I think he will be back in the running for the number 1 pick. Bowers is this years top pass rusher.
DT Marcell Dareus
Has more versatility then does Nick Fairley and is probably the safer pick if not the most explosive pass rusher of the two.
DT Nick Fairley~
Some say he was a one year wonder and plays with an attitude. He is not as discipline as Dareus, but Fairley can generate a good pass rush from the DT position and that's a pretty high commodity in this League. I don't think he will be nearly as effective in a 34.
LB Von Miller
Some have labeled a prospect at WOLB in the 34. I think his best fit might be in a 43 (WILL).
I don't think he has the size to be as effective vs the run in a 34. Has the talent to develop into a force in the League with his speed and is athletic as any prospect in the draft with exception to Peterson.
QB Blaine Gabbert
I'm luke warm at best with this years QB class, with Gabbert topping that list.
WR A.J. Green
Green lost some ground to Jones as far as the top WR in the class, but run the film and he is clearly the Top of this class. Green would rate higher if not for being a receiver.
DE Cameron Jordan
I've had Jordan rated as my Top senior of this class and I think if Dareus is considered a safe pick to be rated number three overall.
Jordan has position and scheme versatility and he has a few moves in rushing the QB to warrant this high a rating.
CB Prince Amukamara
Prince is my number two senior in this draft class and number two corner.
WR Julio Jones
Jones must still refine the finer points of his trade, but the upside far out ways these concerns, so he rounds out my top 10 prospects.
Tier 2: 11-20
QB Cam Newton^
RB Mark Ingram
DE/LB Robert Quinn
LT Nate Solder
DE J.J. Watt
RT Tyron Smith
DT Corey Liuget
DE/LB Ryan Kerrigan
QB Christian Ponder
DE Adrian Clayborn~
Tier 3: 21-30
LT Anthony Castonzo
RT Gabe Carimi
DT Stephen Paea
QB Jack Locker
DT Muhammad Wilkerson
DT Phil Taylor
LB Martez Wilson
DE/LB Aldon Smith
OL Mike Pouncey
CB Jimmy Smith~
Tier 4: 31-40
OT Derek Sherrod
OL Ben Ijalana
DL Christian Ballard
DE/LB Justin Houston
LB Akeem Ayers
RB Mikel Leshoure
TE Kyle Rudolph
CB Aaron Williams
DT Marvin Austin
WR Torrey Smith
Tier 5: 41-50
CB Brandon Harris (5'8")
OL Danny Watkins
DL Cameron Heyward
OL Marcus Cannon
DB Ras-I Dowling
WR Leonard Hankerson
WR Jon Baldwin
WR Randall Cobb
QB Colin Kaepernick
DE/LB Brooks Reed
Tier 6: 51-60
LB Bruce Carter±
RB Ryan Williams
FS Rahim Moore
DE/LB Sam Acho
TE Luke Stocker
DL Allen Bailey^
CB Brandon Burton
RB Jordan Todman
OL Orlando Franklin
WR Tandon Doss±
Tier 7: 61-70
RB Kendall Hunter
OL Jason Pinkston
OL James Carpenter
DT Jurrell Casey
DT Drake Nevis
LB K.J. Wright
WR Titus Young
WR Jerrel Jernigan
DE/LB Jabaal Shear
CB Curtis Brown
Tier 8: 71-80
OT Marcus Gilbert
OL Clint Boling
RB DeMarco Murray
CB Chimdi Chekwa
LB Mason Foster
LB Chris Carter
DB Quinton Carter
TE/HB D.J. Williams
DT Kenrick Ellis
RB Shane Vereen
Tier 9: 81-90
DT Jarvis Jenkins
TE Virgil Green
CB Shareece Wright
TE Jordan Cameron
LB Quan Sturdivant
CB Johnny Patrick
LB Colin McCarthy
CB Devon House
QB Andy Dalton
DL Lawrence Guy
Tier 10: 91-100
OL Stefen Wisniewski<
LB Kelvin Sheppard
CB Curtis Marsh
FS Robert Sands
OL Williams Rackley
DE Pernell McPhee
QB Ryan Mallet~^
WR Greg Little~
OL Rodney Hudson<
LB Greg Jones
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Tier 11: 101-110
DB Chris Culliver
LB Dontay Moch^
WR Ricardo Lockette
CB Jalil Brown
SS Ahmad Black (5'8")
RB Daniel Thomas
SS DeAndre McDaniel±
DB Da'Norris Searcy
FS Jaiquawn Jarrett~
WR Niles Paul~
RB/RS Jacquizz Rodgers
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<= Classic over achiever who's skills might not translate well to the next level.
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Why does every tier have the same amount of players?
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5 years from now I would not be the least bit surprised if that Tier 5 doesn't have more probowls than any group including Tier 1.
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5 years from now I would not be the least bit surprised if that Tier 5 doesn't have more probowls than any group including Tier 1.
That's what makes this years class a very good one, because of record numbers of underclassmen. I think your getting first round value most years at the top of round two.
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Why does every tier have the same amount of players?
For one it's the status quo and secondly simply giving a prospect a round grade is pretty vague considering a minimum of 32 selections in each.
Rounds merely reshuffle the deck for each team.
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Yeah, but the 1st tier of players doesn't seem like it should have to have ten players. What if there are only four great players in the draft? That should be tier one right?
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Yea i just cant imagine anyway that Amukamara would be considered a tier 1 prospect.
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Yeah, but the 1st tier of players doesn't seem like it should have to have ten players. What if there are only four great players in the draft? That should be tier one right?
Then there are only 4 blue chip talents in the draft and putting them at the top of the first tier will crevice I think.
Think of it in terms of tier 1 a & b if you would like to further refine you target 
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No Vincent Brown in the top 111? The dude has awesome hands. He catches the ball away from his body. Did the combine say he was too slow? He had 69 catches for 1352 yards ( 19.6 ypc average) and 10 TDs as a senior. Over his 4 year career, he had 209 catches and 23 TDs. His Junior year he averaged 17.6 ypc. Well, he played in the MWC, so he probably racked up all those stats against crappy teams. Code:
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10/9 @BYU L 24-21 6 101 16.8 36 1
10/30 @Wyo W 48-38 5 144 28.8 53 0
11/13 @TCU L 40-35 4 167 41.8 50 2
11/20 Utah L 38-34 8 184 23.0 90 3
I think this guy is getting really underrated. The fact the we will likely have the ability to draft him in the 4th, and won't, makes me sad.
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My criteria for prospects in the first 3 rounds is I'm looking for players whom I believe has a chance to become a starter in the League. I don't think Vincent Brown will be more then a complimentary outside receiver at the next level because of his lack of speed and the ability to gain any separation.
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Yea i just cant imagine anyway that Amukamara would be considered a tier 1 prospect.
Well I do...if not him then who else would you replace him with and why?
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You don't. You leave the top tier with the amount of prospects that are actually elite.
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I agree with you FL, I just think with your first round pick, especially if its a top 10, you need to do a little better than just a "starter".. most teams drafting top 10 are doing so for a reason and if you are going to dig your way out of that hole, you need an impact player with that first pick..
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QB Ryan Mallet~^
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Did you guys see what Mallet ran today in the 40? At 5.37, he would ensure that his linemen are always in front of him lead blocking. He should have made up a story about a pulled muscle or something - not running is better than running a time that his OGs consider average.
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I agree with you FL, I just think with your first round pick, especially if its a top 10, you need to do a little better than just a "starter".. most teams drafting top 10 are doing so for a reason and if you are going to dig your way out of that hole, you need an impact player with that first pick..
I can't argue with that. I meant that in general you like to have a prospect who you think has the potential to start
(Or slot receiver or nickel back...) in the first 3 rounds, but I agree with a top 10 pick you want someone who is going to be an impact player for your.
For the sake of clarification.
-- All DE/LB were graded at DE.
If I questioned their ability to hold the position at the next level, then they were down graded, because of the transition. With that said...
I think Quinn's best position will at DE, but he is going to have to get bigger and stronger to be a 3 down player.
Aldon Smith on the other hand I think will be no more then a situational pass rusher at DE at the next level, so I feel he might have to transition to OLB with a 34 team and thus he was down graded to a degree. He really has a slight frame and I question his ability to hold his responsibilities on base downs at DE.
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Did you guys see what Mallet ran today in the 40? At 5.37, he would ensure that his linemen are always in front of him lead blocking. He should have made up a story about a pulled muscle or something - not running is better than running a time that his OGs consider average.
I rated Mallet, before the 40: was announced and that would have little to do with where I have him rated.
He has far to many (ifs) to warrant selecting him in the 1st two rounds imo.
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Last night on "Path to the Draft" Mayock said that he thinks Gabbert, Newton, Locker, and Mallet all go in the 1st round.
I don't agree with him. But he knows what he's talking about.
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Last night on "Path to the Draft" Mayock said that he thinks Gabbert, Newton, Locker, and Mallet all go in the 1st round.
I don't agree with him. But he knows what he's talking about.
I don't see that happening unless a couple of early teams fall in love with a guy and it causes other teams looking at QBs to panic and grab one right away.
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He said that teams that don't pick Gabbert or Newton in the beginning of the first will trade back into the first and grab Locker or Mallet.
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Probably, but that's four more QBs than should go in the first this year.
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Last night on "Path to the Draft" Mayock said that he thinks Gabbert, Newton, Locker, and Mallet all go in the 1st round.
I don't agree with him. But he knows what he's talking about.
And he could be correct.
Teams make blunders on picks all the time.
The only thing Mallet has going for him is his size and a powerful arm.
Some may feel that he is worth the risk of drafting in the 1st round, but I think it's a huge one with other concerns to factor in.
Also... I do not see him having much success in a WCO, so to me that limits his value overall.
In fact all of the QB's on that list could be considered a risk.
I love how some of the media
(other then Mayock) are trying to hype this position in this years draft with all the talk of late with the Panthers taking Newton or Gabbert number one overall. Yet these same knuckle heads thought Matt Ryan would not of been worthy of a number one pick overall or even to Atlanta at 3.
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Tier 1: 1-10
CB Patrick Peterson
DE Da'Quan Bowers
DT Marcell Dareus
DT Nick Fairley~
LB Von Miller
QB Blaine Gabbert
WR A.J. Green
DE Cameron Jordan
CB Prince Amukamara
WR Julio Jones
Tier 2: 11-20
QB Cam Newton^
RB Mark Ingram
DE/LB Robert Quinn
DE J.J. Watt.
RT Tyron Smith
DT Corey Liuget
LT Nate Solder
OL Mike Pouncey
DE Adrian Clayborn~
DE/LB Ryan Kerrigan
Tier 3: 21-30
LT Anthony Castonzo
RT Gabe Carimi
DT Muhammad Wilkerson
QB Jake Locker
DT Stephen Paea
QB Christian Ponder
DT Phil Taylor
LB Martez Wilson
DE/LB Aldon Smith
CB Jimmy Smith~
Tier 4: 31-40
RB Mikel Leshoure
OL Ben Ijalana
OT Derek Sherrod
DL Christian Ballard
DT Marvin Austin
LB Akeem Ayers
TE Kyle Rudolph
CB Aaron Williams
DE/LB Justin Houston
WR Torrey Smith
Tier 5: 41-50
WR Leonard Hankerson
OL Danny Watkins
WR Randall Cobb
DL Cameron Heyward
OL Marcus Cannon
DE/LB Jabaal Shear
DB Ras-I Dowling
DE/LB Brooks Reed
FS Rahim Moore
RB Ryan Williams
Tier 6: 51-60
LB Bruce Carter
QB Colin Kaepernick
WR Jerrel Jernigan
DE/LB Sam Acho
CB Curtis Brown
RB Kendall Hunter
TE Luke Stocker
RB Jordan Todman
WR Jon Baldwin
CB Brandon Burton
Tier 7: 61-70
OL Orlando Franklin
DT Drake Nevis
OL James Carpenter
DL Allen Bailey^
OL Jason Pinkston
CB Devon House
WR Titus Young
DB Quinton Carter
TE/HB D.J. Williams
WR Tandon Doss
Tier 8: 71-80
DT Kenrick Ellis
RB DeMarco Murray
CB Chimdi Chekwa
CB Brandon Harris (5'9")
LB K.J. Wright
LB Chris Carter
DT Jarvis Jenkins
OL Clint Boling
RB Shane Vereen
TE Virgil Green
Tier 9: 81-90
QB Andy Dalton
TE Jordan Cameron
LB Quan Sturdivant
CB Johnny Patrick
QB Ryan Mallet~^
CB Shareece Wright
LB Mason Foster
DT Jurrell Casey
OL Stefen Wisniewski<
DL Lawrence Guy
Tier 10: 91-100
LB Colin McCarthy
FS Robert Sands
CB Curtis Marsh
LB Kelvin Sheppard
OL Williams Rackley
DE Pernell McPhee
OT Marcus Gilbert
WR Greg Little~
OL Rodney Hudson<
LB Greg Jones.
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Tier 11: 101-110
DB Chris Culliver
» OT James Brewer
LB Dontay Moch^
WR Niles Paul~
RB Daniel Thomas
CB Jalil Brown
» CB Marcus Gilchrist
DB Da'Norris Searcy
WR Ricardo Lockette
FS Jaiquawn Jarrett~
» OT Joseph Barksdale
« SS Ahmad Black (5'8")
« SS DeAndre McDaniel±
« RB/RS Jacquizz Rodgers
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Ah, I like that you've added James Brewer to your top 111. I'd been hoping he would slip to us in the 5th since he's been rated so low.
Based on your lists:
Option A:
1) Dareus
2) Heyward
3) T. Young (if there was someone named 'Bay' here I would have listed them)
4) McCarthy
5) Vincent Brown WR
6a) Lawrence Wilson OLB
6b) Byron Maxwell CB
Option B:
1) Green
2) Heyward
3) Bailey
4) McCarthy
5) Vincent Brown WR
6a) Lawrence Wilson OLB
6b) Byron Maxwell CB
I would like to get Brewer or Carpenter as our RT, but McCarthy is too good to pass up in the 4th IMO.
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Ah, I like that you've added James Brewer to your top 111. I'd been hoping he would slip to us in the 5th since he's been rated so low.
Based on your lists:
Option A:
1) Dareus
2) Heyward
3) T. Young (if there was someone named 'Bay' here I would have listed them)
4) McCarthy
5) Vincent Brown WR
6a) Lawrence Wilson OLB
6b) Byron Maxwell CB
Option B:
1) Green
2) Heyward
3) Bailey
4) McCarthy
5) Vincent Brown WR
6a) Lawrence Wilson OLB
6b) Byron Maxwell CB
I would like to get Brewer or Carpenter as our RT, but McCarthy is too good to pass up in the 4th IMO.
Brewer is not the greatest athlete or does he have the big upside, but he knows how to play the Tackle position.
I too hope he would fall to the 5th. round.
Looking at the depth on the DL and the fact that many teams will have already taken one in the 1st 4 rounds I like the chance at getting some pretty good prospects in the 5th and 6th rounds.
If we could add one of these guys below late with a 1st or 2nd round pick on the DL I think we could concentrate on other positions in the middle of the Draft;
DE Ugo Chinasa
(projected to go in the 4th),
Oklahoma State
DT Cedric Thornton, Southern Arkansas
DT Martin Parker, Richmond
DT Terrell Mcclain, South Florida
DE/DT David Carter, UCLA (more of a 5 tech).
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Tier 11: 101-110
DB Chris Culliver
» OT James Brewer
WR Niles Paul~
LB Dontay Moch^
RB Daniel Thomas
CB Jalil Brown
» CB Marcus Gilchrist
DB Da'Norris Searcy
WR Ricardo Lockette
» OT Joseph Barksdale
« SS Ahmad Black (5'8")
« SS DeAndre McDaniel±
« RB/RS Jacquizz Rodgers
« FS Jaiquawn Jarrett~
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Latest update:
Tier 1: 1-10
CB Patrick Peterson
DT Nick Fairley
DT Marcell Dareus
LB Von Miller
QB Blaine Gabbert
WR A.J. Green
DE Cameron Jordan
DE Da'Quan Bowers±
CB Prince Amukamara
WR Julio Jones
Tier 2: 11-20
DE JJ Watt
DE/LB Robert Quinn
OT Tyron Smith
DT Corey Liuget
DT Muhammad Wilkerson
OL Mike Pouncey
RB Mark Ingram
DE/LB Ryan Kerrigan
QB Cam Newton
DE Adrian Clayborn
Tier 3: 21-30
LT Anthony Castonzo
OT Nate Solder
RT Gabe Carimi
QB Christian Ponder
DT Stephen Paea±
QB Jake Locker
DT Phil Taylor
DE/LB Aldon Smith
DE/LB Brooks Reed
CB Jimmy Smith
Tier 4: 31-40
OL Ben Ijalana
OT Derek Sherrod
RB Mikel Leshoure
LB Martez Wilson
DT Marvin Austin
DL Christian Ballard
LB Akeem Ayers
TE Kyle Rudolph±
CB Aaron Williams
WR Torrey Smith
Tier 5: 41-50
WR Leonard Hankerson
OL Danny Watkins
WR Randall Cobb
DL Cameron Heyward
DE/LB Justin Houston
DB Ras-I Dowling
OL Marcus Cannon
DE/LB Jabaal Shear
FS Rahim Moore
RB Ryan Williams
Tier 6: 51-60
LB Bruce Carter±
QB Colin Kaepernick
WR Jon Baldwin
DE/LB Sam Acho
CB Curtis Brown
RB Kendall Hunter
TE Luke Stocker
RB Jordan Todman
WR Jerrel Jernigan
CB Devon House
Tier 7: 61-70
OL Orlando Franklin
DT Drake Nevis
OL James Carpenter
RB DeMarco Murray
CB Brandon Burton
WR Titus Young
DT Kenrick Ellis
QB Andy Dalton
LB Quan Sturdivant
DB Quinton Carter
Tier 8: 71-80
TE/HB D.J. Williams
DL Allen Bailey
OL Clint Boling
OL Williams Rackley
CB Chimdi Chekwa
CB Brandon Harris (5'9")
LB K.J. Wright
LB Chris Carter
OL Stefen Wisniewski
TE Jordan Cameron
Tier 9: 81-90
DL Lawrence Guy
TE Virgil Green
CB Shareece Wright
QB Ryan Mallet
RB Shane Vereen
CB Johnny Patrick
LB Mason Foster
DT Jarvis Jenkins
DT Jurrell Casey
LB Colin McCarthy
Tier 10: 91-100
WR Tandon Doss±
FS Robert Sands
CB Curtis Marsh
OT James Brewer
CB Marcus Gilchrist
DE Pernell McPhee
OT Marcus Gilbert
WR Greg Little
OL Rodney Hudson
LB Greg Jones
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WR Niles Paul
LB Kelvin Sheppard
RB Daniel Thomas
CB Jalil Brown
LB Dontay Moch
DB Da'Norris Searcy
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OT Joseph Barksdale
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