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I didn't get made fun of in school and I didn't make fun of other kids. I don't remember any real bullies in school, I'm sure they were there, I just didn't witness anything that stands out. I'm not sure I would have taken it real well at a young age, so it's hard to judge these kids and families. I would have been crushed as a teenager if someone had started something about me on the internet like some of these people have done. Some of this stuff is really vicious. I'm sure I would have lived and I would have learned some life lessons, but it's really hard on some kids. Thank God we were still writing on stone tablets as kids. GM tried to start a rumor about me using smoke signals but he got tired after the first word. 
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No longer is bullying just physical. It is primarily psychological, and that is much, much worse.
I have only had a couple experiences with physical bullying. I was hanging out with a bunch of jerks basically, and for whatever reason, they seemed to think it was fun to single someone out and beat up on them. More often than not, that person was me. I had gone through many medical issues and missed school because of it, and that seemed to be enough to make me the primary target. It was never serious injuries or anything, but the feeling of being attacked, the feeling of isolation, and the feeling of being hated so much that people would go out of their way just to make you miserable was terrible.
7th and 8th grade were some of the best and most miserable times of my life. I had a ton of fun with friends doing things that I'd never done before and haven't done since. But I also felt what it was like to be bullied, and that makes me look back on those times with a sour taste in my mouth. Half the time it seemed like just getting through a single day was almost impossible, but everywhere I looked I had people telling me that I should be having the time of my life. I wouldn't go back to those days for anything.
Eventually people changed and realized what jerks they had been, and I even received some apologies. I currently hang out with many of those same kids I had hated just a few years ago and consider some of them to be great friends. But it's impossible for me to truly trust and forgive some of them. I know all about how you are supposed to forgive and let go, but sometimes it simply isn't possible. The actions of those few individuals still affects me today. I find that I'm not a very trusting person and that I tend to be cynical about the actions of virtually everyone.
But at the same time, I know that having gone through such terrible experiences has positively influenced me. I know the value of the golden rule that we were taught in first grade, "Treat others as you want to be treated". So many claim to understand that, but really don't. I understand the importance of simply being a nice person, and there is no quality that I admire more. I will never bully a person and I won't let it happen around me. I refuse to let others go through what I did if I can do anything about it.
Back to the thread, and the discussion about this lawsuit, I think it is both ridiculous and admirable. First of all, the dad handled this like an idiot. If he honestly expects demanding $5,000 from the get go is going to accomplish anything, he is as dimwitted as the people at fault here. It was not the right way to go about the issue. The correct way to handle it is to contact the school and the parents of the children involved. And if nothing happens, then you consider legal action.
On the other hand, I admire the dad for sticking up for his daughter and actually trying to do something about the situation. So many parents look at bullying as simply something that happens, while ignoring the effect that it has. His determination and desire to help his daughter is fantastic. I sincerely hope that he wins and that this case helps prevent future bullying from taking place.
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The worst offenders for walking around like buster bad azz in our high school were some of the wrestlers.. they were so full of themselves it wasn't even funny...
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No longer is bullying just physical. It is primarily psychological, and that is much, much worse.
You hit the nail on the head. Since my identity isn't a secret I won't go into details. I will say my son is a victim of bulling. As hard as it is for me to believe there is no fear factor in bullying him. My wife and I are at odds on how to deal with the problem. She thinks that he needs to go and talk with the principle when it happens. She is scared that there will be a physical confrontation. Fighting nowadays brings in the police, and charges get filed. that is not something that a college bound kid who is looking to get scholarships needs.
I do not want him fighting in school either. If at all possible I do not want him to retaliate. However if there is nowhere to go I do want him to defend himself to the point off making everyone else think twice about messing with him. The only good thing is some of these kids wrestle and or play football. My son has a long memory and physical contact in both sports are encouraged...
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The worst offenders for walking around like buster bad azz in our high school were some of the wrestlers.. they were so full of themselves it wasn't even funny...
Because we could be.
Most of them were ego inflated punks who now work for $15/hour.
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I agree, Deep. I got bullied in HS (as probably everyone has), and sometimes it was physical, but that was usually pretty minor. It was usually just some constant irritation. I was pretty small for the first couple years in HS, and I went to a private grade school, so I didn't know a lot of people.
But, as time went on, people usually moved on to other targets. And, I'm ashamed to say, I bullied some kids, usually because I had to feel superior to someone. But, I feel terribly about that and have reached out to people who I was mean to. Sometimes they accept the apology, but some haven't, and that is something that really hurts me. But, that's a consequence of my action and I must live with it.
But I can't imagine if the bullying could have carried over outside of school and onto the internet. That would have made things exponentially harder.
On a side note, my 10 year HS reunion was a couple years ago, and when I went, I noticed that some of the kids who bullied me were the biggest d-bags in the history of the world. And, much to my surprise, pretty much everyone else thought the same thing.
In HS, I always thought everyone thought the bully kids were tough and cool, but it was pretty much the opposite.
I'll just say I'm glad I never have to go back to HS. Also, I'll say that if I ever find out my son was bullying kids, especially to this level, the LEAST of his worries will be how the school handles it.
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dude. that was like 3 decades ago. I'm sure they feel silly about it now.
There's no way to get that time back but there's no point in sinking more time/thought into it now.
They're not the same person now that they were then, and neither are you.
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You called him Dude.  And pretty much missed the entire point.
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Bullying...is ALWAYS psychological. No matter if it is physically imparted or or not.
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It was never serious injuries or anything, but the feeling of being attacked, the feeling of isolation, and the feeling of being hated so much that people would go out of their way just to make you miserable was terrible.
You glossed over the actual physical injuries and went straight to the psychological aspect of it. The physical injuries did not affect you nearly as bad as the mental aspect of the physical attack did.
The attacks were not about beating you up... they were about power. They were about making them feel strong and making you feel weak. It was about setting a psychological precedent into you that they were better than you and will always be better than you. It was about control...that in some way...they control you.
I go back to what I said before...Bullying is terrorism...it is the act of trying to control others through acts of terror and fear. Fear of physical harm, fear of emotional harm, fear of humiliation.....And just like terrorism...it is a psychological attack more than a physical one.
I thought I was wrong once....but I was mistaken...
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And pretty much missed the entire point.
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You called him Dude.
And pretty much missed the entire point.
I think he was trying to apologize to DC there 
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Because we could be.
Most of them were ego inflated punks who now work for $15/hour.
I would say for wrestlers it was more than because we could. It was because you had to have that mentality to be any good at wrestling. You had to think you were the toughest son of a gun out there and that you were invincible. If not, it's pretty tough to get in a ring by yourself against someone trying to humiliate you in front of your school and family and have a chance at winning.
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And I would say that sounds like a lame excuse and a weak attempt at trying to justify really bad behavior and not a single adult on this board would accept it from their own child. "It's ok, my son's a jackazz punk because he has to be in order to stay in the right frame of mind to be a good wrestler." See, it just doesn't sound right... 
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I will say that I was a wrestler, but I didn't act that way. That might be because I was probably the worst wrestler ever to grace the mat in the state of Ohio.
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And I would say that sounds like a lame excuse and a weak attempt at trying to justify really bad behavior and not a single adult on this board would accept it from their own child. "It's ok, my son's a jackazz punk because he has to be in order to stay in the right frame of mind to be a good wrestler." See, it just doesn't sound right...
which is one reason I was never any good at it because my parents would never allow that from me (and me from myself as a byproduct).
didn't say it was right, but especially for a teenage kid, that doesn't mean it's not true alot of the time.
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Just for clarity purposes, I was not a bully.
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I agree. I would be pretty embarrassed if my kid acted that way.
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Just for clarity purposes, I was not a bully.
Never said you were. I'm pretty much taking people at their word when some say they were a little and others say they were bullied..
And also for the record, I don't have anything against wrestlers, one of my very best friends in HS was a 3 time state champion in Maryland and went to Ohio State on scholarship.. and he never had to be arrogant or cocky to do it.
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Because we could be.
Most of them were ego inflated punks who now work for $15/hour.
I would say for wrestlers it was more than because we could. It was because you had to have that mentality to be any good at wrestling. You had to think you were the toughest son of a gun out there and that you were invincible. If not, it's pretty tough to get in a ring by yourself against someone trying to humiliate you in front of your school and family and have a chance at winning.
I was a wrestler as well. I didn't nor did most of my teammates act like asses. However DC is right when it comes to some. There is no doubt we need to have a chip on our shoulder when we walk onto the mat (we don't use rings in Ohio) but we should be able to turn of the switch once the adrenaline from the match is over. I think the same rules apply to football players.
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I will say that I was a wrestler, but I didn't act that way. That might be because I was probably the worst wrestler ever to grace the mat in the state of Ohio.
Normally when I read something like this I throw the BS flag and tell the author to stop exaggerating. However since I know some of your teammates I will back you up on this. You truly were the worst wrestler in the state.
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I was a bully in High School....kind of...
I was sort of unconventional though, if you can imagine that. I stuck up for the unpopular kids a lot.
And I usually picked on the popular kids....talked the dumb jocks into stupid decisions, or fed kids acid without really telling them that they were in for 8 hours of mindscrew......
Like the time I convinced a certain person into eating acid at midnight knowing they had school the next morning. (did the same thing to someone with some mushrooms.)
I said...you'll be fine....It only lasts like two hours....
LOLOL....
Or there was a time that a bunch of us went to this rich kids house party and totally destroyed the house......
Childish stuff though, like picking fights, stealing a keg, spiking beers on the tile floors, and emptying gallons of milk in hallway closets....
And not so childish stuff like kicking holes in the walls......
Ohhh man......High School. What a punk kid I was.
For the record, I did get bullied my freshman year though, by a sophmore and junior. They continually stole stuff outta my locker, even when I had a lock they would snip it.
They eventually found out where I lived and robbed my house. But they got there's for that.
Once the guys on the football team found out about this, a certain street justice got carried out by the upper classman.
but bullying now...probably way worse....I mean...these comments are just sooo mean.....
and being out there in cyber space....oh the agony...
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Just to be clear I was joking about 79's wrestling ability. Noone I know ever said a negative thing about him.
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I was a bully in High School....kind of...
I was sort of unconventional though, if you can imagine that. I stuck up for the unpopular kids a lot.
And I usually picked on the popular kids....talked the dumb jocks into stupid decisions, or fed kids acid without really telling them that they were in for 8 hours of mindscrew......
Like the time I convinced a certain person into eating acid at midnight knowing they had school the next morning. (did the same thing to someone with some mushrooms.)
I said...you'll be fine....It only lasts like two hours....
LOLOL....
Or there was a time that a bunch of us went to this rich kids house party and totally destroyed the house.
Well, you're just a regular ol' Robin Hood aren't you?
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Bullying is terrorism...it is the act of trying to control others through acts of terror and fear. Fear of physical harm, fear of emotional harm, fear of humiliation.....And just like terrorism...it is a psychological attack more than a physical one
I agree with this.
Bullies are pathetic, I was a big dude throughout high school but because I was not rich or with the popular kids I was bullied.
I wish all bullies would be put on that show beyond scared straight to fix their little punk behinds.
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I was a bully in High School....kind of...
I was sort of unconventional though, if you can imagine that. I stuck up for the unpopular kids a lot.
And I usually picked on the popular kids....talked the dumb jocks into stupid decisions, or fed kids acid without really telling them that they were in for 8 hours of mindscrew......
Like the time I convinced a certain person into eating acid at midnight knowing they had school the next morning. (did the same thing to someone with some mushrooms.)
I said...you'll be fine....It only lasts like two hours....
LOLOL....
Or there was a time that a bunch of us went to this rich kids house party and totally destroyed the house.
Well, you're just a regular ol' Robin Hood aren't you?
No, there is another term that describes that behavior, but I can't use it on here. But I will own it....I did it. Did plenty of dumb stuff----but I don't hide my skeletons.....I wear them....easy!!!
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Sociopath?
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Sociopath?
 
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Sociopath?
I was thinking criminal. Because I do believe drugging someone without their knowledge is a criminal offense.
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Drugging someone without their knowledge - destroying someone's house, bragging about being a drug abuser......first 2 are illegal - the third one is just stupid.
But, he's clean now.
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I was thinking criminal. Because I do believe drugging someone without their knowledge is a criminal offense.
To be fair to Tyler, he did say he talked them into doing acid. What he did that was wrong is tell them it would have a 2 hour side effect instead of a 8 hour one.
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If it's true. Just may be more trolling.
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When I went to West G from '99 to '02 there wasn't much bullying, but it existed. There was e-mail and internet but just barely. Mainly, AOL chat rooms, Instant Messaging and Cleveland Live forums were the only forms of cyber-bullying at the time. No facebook, twitter, youtube, myspace even...
Guys? no big deal--a guy would beat someone up, the victim would fight back and then they'd either become friends at least be civil to each other. but the situation would be stopped. sometimes, the bully was so shocked by someone fighting back he quit right away.
The girls were far nastier--they use psychological tactics to "divide and conquer." They learn their skills, but some of them have an innate ability to bully, a natural talent akin to a Itzak Perlman on strings or Andy Warhol creating abstract art or Hillis slicing through the Rats D. It just comes easier to them.
They'd isolate others at the lunch table, uninvite friends, etc. etc. etc. It does come easier to them. Guys don't have ability to reason at that "networking" level at that age.
Even populars bully other populars. I knew a football player, a good one, who was bullied by two dudes, because he stood up for himself and other players on the team.
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It's more trolling to simply make comments about others that are simply to put them down.
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If it's true. Just may be more trolling.
It's more trolling to simply make comments about others that are simply to put them down.
Or it could just be adding thoughts/opinions to those already posted within a thread.....right? Or was that comment just to put someone down?
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I completely disagree with you. You say playground slander, but given all the media and ability to publish and stream, this goes way beyond playground slander.
If it's published over a media, false, and damaging to the girl's reputation, there's a common law recovery. With all the SEVERE bullying stories we here going on, and there's been plenty brought up on this board, I'm all for making people take responsibility, which is an increasingly-fleeting concept in this country.
Agreed.
And you don't know how long this has gone on. This could be an ongoing problem, something that could have an effect on a young girl. Which could lead to things such as depression, and even worse, suicide.
I have a kid who was born with a birth defect. I worry about her getting older and going to school, having kids seeing her stomach, the large scar, and the abnormal belly button that they had to try to make since she never had one.
Aint no reason for bullying of any sort, so instead of stooping to their level, he gave them an opportunity to donate to a charity. Which was a nice idea. When no response came, he took it forward.
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