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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Peek was brought in as a sack specialist after his 6 sack season as an OLB, right? I don't think Stewart ever really had a shot at being a sack specialist.
Aside from that, though, I completely agree with you. Peek has proved nothing besides the fact that he was able to somehow get 6 sacks in a season in Houston.
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3-4 experience and a solid addition to our linebacking core.
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Peek has proved nothing besides the fact that he was able to somehow get 6 sacks in a season in Houston.
that's an acomplishment in itself 
I think they will use him more in a D-end position on third downs in passing situations than anything else, with his speed coming off one end and Wimbly coming off the other end, could cause for quick releases and early throws
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Porter, 30yo, in 2006: 39 Ts, 16ass, 6.5 sacks (ALL against HOU, TB, OAK and CLE....oh well...), 2 INTs, 0 FF, 0 FR, 7 PD ...just signed for 6.5mil/year, 20 guaranteed, 12 SB
Peek, 27yo, in 2005 (his last season in the 3-4): 29 Ts, 17 ass, 6 sacks (against PIT, IND, SEA, BAL, ARI, SF), 0 INT, 2 FF, 2 FR, 1 PD.....signed for 2.5/year (through 2008), SB has not been reported
Make your choice: Porter obviously is the better all around OLB but he´s older, way more expensive...and I´m really not sure if he´s a better pass rusher considering Peek played lots of games trailing having less sack chances
Since we would have to bench McGinest or Wimbley....Peek makes much more sense
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2.5 mil for a guy whose ONE good season he got 6 sacks? Sorry, but can;t help but feel we overpaid for this guy. What's Chaun Thompson's contract? Look at the 2005 years and these guys statistics mirror each other. Both seem to have similar measureables. Edit: Even worse, if he doesn't pan out and get at least 6 sacks in either of his first two years, his THREE year contract is worth almost 3 mil a season. Patrick McManamon, of the Akron Beacon Journal, reports Cleveland Browns LB Antwan Peek's three-year contract is worth $8.7 million, but should he collect six sacks in either of the first two years of the deal, it becomes a two-year, $5 million contract and Peek would be eligible again for free agency in two years, according to ESPN.com. www.kffl.com
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I don't think Stewart ever really had a shot at being a sack specialist.
I believe he's still trying to come off a block sustained 12-24-06 against Tampa.
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2.5 mil for a guy whose ONE good season he got 6 sacks?
Sorry, but can;t help but feel we overpaid for this guy.
In this market, not a chance. EVERYONE is seemingly overpaid in this market. Peek got fair market value IN THIS MARKET, IMO.
As far as Thompson and Peek...I've never seen Peek play, but most of Thompson's sacks were coverage sacks. I can't remember once that year where he blew by a tackle a la Wimbley and nailed a QB within 2 seconds.
Most of his pressures came on delayed blitz. Chaun's the best example of the biggest waste of 4.4 40 athleticism ever...
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Peek was brought in as a sack specialist after his 6 sack season as an OLB, right?
I thought he had 6 sacks two years ago and only one sack last year. Is that wrong?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Peek was brought in as a sack specialist after his 6 sack season as an OLB, right?
I thought he had 6 sacks two years ago and only one sack last year. Is that wrong?
you're right Vers
1 sack last year
6 in 05
2 in 04
1 his rookie year
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Peek was brought in as a sack specialist after his 6 sack season as an OLB, right?
I thought he had 6 sacks two years ago and only one sack last year. Is that wrong?
Yeah, but 2005 he was a starting OLB in a 3-4...last year he was an injured backup DE in a 4-3....big difference....coaches and fans liked Peek but he just wasn´t a fit, he was drafted for the 3-4
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we still don´t know his SBonus....even if he fails, we just cut him and have wasted probably 2mil 2007 and maybe 1 remaining mil 2008 for his accelerated SB (guessing at a 1.5-2.5mil SB)....that´s peanuts and worth the risk...everybody here has seen that we needed more pass rushers and now that we get 1 who fits perfectly into a sit. pass rush role nobody seems to be happy, because we might have overpayed for 1 or 2 mil over 3 years
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Learn what's goin' on before inserting finger up thy ass...
Houston Texans linebacker Antwan Peek (6-3, 250), one of the most underrated players available in free agency this year, will get a hard look from the Dallas Cowboys, TheRanchReport.com has learned.
Peek has been described by one league source who recently told TheRanchReport.com that Peek was "a sleeper in free agency for a 3-4 team as an outside linebacker who can really rush the passer."
He and Ware coulda been terrors...
He was hindered as an End in a 4-3...He's NOT a 280lb End...He fought injuries with the weight...
He IS and WAS coming out of College...A 3-4 OLB...
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Thanks for the information. NICE!!!
My fellings are so what??? This guy is not the quality the Browns need in the LB core.. Someone elses cast off, leftovers or overflow and depth guy at best, back up, fill in...? The Bowns had most certainly do much better than this...
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LOL........you are a piece of work. I did not bad-mouth him. I simply said I would wait and see. He hasn't done much in the NFL yet. Why do you insist I say EVERY move Savage makes is gold? I've given the guy praise, but only when I think he deserves it.
Sorry dude, but the JollyRancher report doesn't prove anyting to me. I hope he works out. He might work out. But, he'll have to prove it on the field. Right now............he looks like a project to me. We'll see.
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The Jolly Rancher
 Ok, I´ll try it with national media...FWIW
http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/adamschein/2007/03/05/Top_5_questionable_free_agents
Peek-signing is mentioned in "Under the Radar Good Moves ..... "
4. Antwan Peek to Cleveland – Browns general manager Phil Savage said he wanted veteran help in the treches. Peek played the 3-4 for Dom Capers.
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Peek is going to help us in the trenches?
Look, I'm not trying to be a smart ass...well, maybe a little, but how can you guys have a problem that I am taking a wait-and-see approach before I deem this a good move?
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Hey , I'm on your side  .. I hope the young man makes believers out of all of us ... But you got admit my man " Vers " can be pretty funny sometimes ! 
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New York Times or Hicktown Press...it really doesn't matter.
The fact is this guy had ONE season of the four he played where he showed he could get to the QB as a 3-4 OLB.
Hell, Chaun Thompson had 5 sacks in his first year as a 3-4 OLB.... Is anyone pumping him up? Really, can anyone compare this kid's actual performance...I can;t say i watch alot of Texan games.
Right now, this guy is more or less a nobody. It'll be great if he works out and I'll be keeping an eye on him in preseason games, but I'm not exactly pencilling him in to be our replacement for McGinest quite yet.
I'll slot this in the off-season enthusiasm file. Along with whatever late round guy we annoint as the next big thing that goes nowhere (ie. Amon Gordon, Baba, Speegle, etc etc)
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Peek is going to help us in the trenches?
Look, I'm not trying to be a smart ass...well, maybe a little, but how can you guys have a problem that I am taking a wait-and-see approach before I deem this a good move?
It would be foolish to think he is going to tear it up whenhe gets on the field for us. I just don't see how anyone can say this guy is going to be much of a help to us going on his past record. He may turn out to be a nice pick up, especially in passing situations but we are going to have to wait to know for sure.
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Peek is going to help us in the trenches?
Look, I'm not trying to be a smart ass...well, maybe a little, but how can you guys have a problem that I am taking a wait-and-see approach before I deem this a good move?
Yeah, the "trenches" comment was good
I´m with you and others on the wait and see approach but I am pretty sure he is an upgrade for our pass rush in a situational role.....HOU had a regime change and the new coaches kept him despite changing systems, they must have seen something...now 2006 he was injured and wasn´t heavy enough for DE...as I said both coaches and fans really liked the guy...it´s not like he was trashed out of town, he was just a bad fit
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LOL.......what you are really saying is he hasn't done squat yet.
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No U DON'T...So STFU and wait and see like the rest of us...
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but I think too many of you are thinking he will be good because Savage signed him.
Yeah...That's it...
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The fact is this guy had ONE season of the four he played where he showed he could get to the QB as a 3-4 OLB.
Exactly... his third year was solid year for him... he was a third rounder and just starting to come around.... but then they changed the defense on him when most experts say that he is suited for the 3-4... so last year he had a bad year
I don't remember much of him last year (especially with the rookies that were doing so well for the texans). But I vaguley remember him two years ago... which should say something since i hate the texans.
I think he'll be solid for us... another guy to fit into the rotation... not a stand-out, but a solid backer...
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Peek was brought in as a sack specialist after his 6 sack season as an OLB, right?
I thought he had 6 sacks two years ago and only one sack last year. Is that wrong?
No you're right about that. I was saying that the 6 sack season as an OLB is why we brought him in.
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I hope he gets 6 or more and becomes a solid player for us. I just want to WIN And I trust Phil to get it done.
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I hope he gets 6 or more and becomes a solid player for us.
I just want to WIN
And I trust Phil to get it done.
He's not going to get much PT with Quentin Moses on the roster 
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A few awful negatives there — still looks better than what we had out there last year if he can play. Use the Draft, Phil! And may the Elf be with you!  
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i agree with the skepticism on this guy...even if you throw out the 4-3 year, he's shown VERY MODEST improvement over 3 YEARS...that said, he has virtually the opposite scouting report of Matt Stewart (athletic and raw/1dimensional vs unathletic and experienced), so that's not a fair comparison...just like everything Brown n Orange, it's another case of 'wait and see'  ...
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U guys are gonna LOVE this kid coming off the edge with Wimbley...
He was a pass rushing machine at Cincy...
Shoulda been a 3-4 OLB from day one...Much like Ware and Dummerville...
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i watched him in Cinci and liked him...we weren't in the 3-4 at the time, so as he was drafted, i paid little attention... as for this... Quote:
Shoulda been a 3-4 OLB from day one...Much like Ware and Dummerville...
HE WAS...for his first 3 years...and hasnt had nearly the impact those 2 have (in only 2 and 1 year, respectively)...look, i'm not saying it's a bad move...i'm saying this guy has done nothing to prove he's a starting OLB...he showed a little uptick in his 3rd season...that can mean one of two things...1. he's turning the corner, and will break out for us...2. he had an anamolous (good) year...you don't know which is true any more than i do...
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Maybe I can help a bit with this..
Peek is a 34 OLB with good pass rush skills..
However he is no force against the run..and will probbaly be used behind McGinest .
David McMillian is not amounted to anything and Thompson is further sliding himself to ST's or a ticket out of town.
Peek has experience so it helps in terms of not being forced to look at a tweener in the draft .
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I think this is a good signing......Stewart is out the door....I cant believe the OSU homers cant remember this guy being all over the field when OSU almost lost to Cincy a few years back....he left an impression on me in that one game and that says alot considering the memory loss I use to fool with
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I'm not sure what to make of this signing. The guy did his best work as a 3-4 OLB in Houston and that was with a front three that was, argueably, worse than ours. The only thing I remember about him was that he has a great motor, but is very undisciplined and gets himself out of position quite easily. This is something Kamerion got a lot better at as the season went on last year. Maybe Peek can still be taught as well.
I like Willy, but he clearly isn't the guy he used to be. We'll have to wait and see how it goes with Peek.
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I won't bother with the other guy but since you two are like the one in the same...lol 
What we all must remember is that Savage is filling holes via the FA market. He's young and he completes us better than McMillan or Chaun Thompson does for the SOLB position. Willie McG has only one more season on his contract, and I don't see much more steady production from him after this season.
Its all about Upgrades. If I recollect we signed him for 3 years. he is young it gives him 3 years to prove his worth and possibly fill in the void of an aging McG or a departing McG in the near future. His experience has been in the 3-4 D and has shown promise there.
This does not mean Savage will not pull the trigger on a Good Tweener Draft pick if one proves to be a good value at the time of our PICK.
Out of convenience a Savage detractor (and I'm putting it kindly) like yourself or your Mirror image finds it oh so easy to spin it as if any move he makes in FA to better this team is a Slap in the face of Building this team through the draft.
The team was left completely void of that drafted talent thanks to the likes of Clark and Butch. 22 players to build with 3 1st day picks hitting on every single one is a FREAKIN 7 year process at least! Yet you and the detractors find it convenient knowing he cannot possibly do more than hit on 14% of our needs during each draft year. And then take that and Say SEEE SEEE I told you so Savage is a Liar he doesn't want to build through the draft look at all the investments he's making in FAgency
Like that isn't good for the Browns trying to assemble something of a team after the total Ineptitude of building through the draft that has been experienced by our organization through no Fault from SAVAGE.
your rants are lame and lack football sense. Debate me if you must this is not an insult in anyway to you and your shadow or vice VERSa I should say... Oh, I crack myself up...lol
Savage is taking advantage of the Window of eccelerated Cap room just like the entire NFL is right now. The 49ers just spent How much on a Sub from the Patriots...rediculous money. Yet all the hits we have made as wild as FA is Savage has made the best deals for what we are getting. Including Peek.
Its a sound move that provides and upgrade and fills a void for a position we have.
We will continue to draft to whatever strengths of each draft class gives us. These moves do not in any way prevent us from drafting prospects. We will continue to do so cause more than half, much more than half of these FAs won't be here 3-4 years down the road. But it gives Savage time to produce prospects from the draft.
The void from the TRULY INEPT must be filled for us to represent!
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