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I don't see any of those guys listed in Lindy's draft magazine......not that it matters.
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This is a repeat of last year.
Last year we were really quiet until after the signings were anounced, then "suddenly" we had 8 or 9 guys signed.
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also, even more than most years, these guys are likely camp fodder. they took away 2-a-days, they took away some of the padded practices, and we are implementing a new offense and a new defense.
less practices + more to learn in less time = extreme focus on getting repetitions to the guys we 'know' will make the team
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I dont expect any undrafted FA to stick, as our talent improves it's gonna get harder & harder for these undrafted layers to stick....Thats what we what right, improved starters & back-ups, we dont want undrafted FA walking off the streets & starting for us, Would make a good movie but so would us winning the Super Bowl,
We sign these guys to be bodies in training camps, players fill postions during teaching reps....We sign them on hope of finding something, we often do, they also hang around on the inactive squad so yes it's good to sign a few to take the load of summer work off your starters, and it helps these kids freash out of college get some money in their pockets.
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Tennessee State outside linebacker Sidney Tarver had a strong Pro Day workout as he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.65 to 4.68 seconds, according to an NFL source who attended the workout. The 6-foot-3, 236-pounder registered a 32-inch vertical leap, a 10-6 broad jump and bench pressed 225 pounds 23 times. Tarver, who has an 81 7/8 wingspan and 10 1/8 hands, worked out in chilly, wet conditions. NFL teams attending the workout included the Baltimore Ravens, Chicago Bears, New York Giants, Cleveland Browns, Houston Texans, Oakland Raiders, Tennessee Titans, San Diego Chargers, Jacksonville Jaguars, San Francisco 49ers and the Denver Broncos. Tarver had a 4.24 20-yard shuttle, a 7.30 L-drill and an 11.7 60-yard shuttle, excelling in his linebacker drills. Last season, he started every game and had 62 tackles, 7 1/2 for losses, 3 1/2 sacks, a pass deflection and two quarterback hurrries. At TSU, he lined up at several positions and was utilized as a 4-3 outside linebacker and a 4-3 defensive end. http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Tenn...y-workout.html
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Sounds like a nice player with low risk and a decent upside. In typical Browns fan form, I will keep my expectations low and assume he will only be as good as DeMarcus Ware. 
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http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/spo...gs.html?sid=101Ohio State football | NFL: Sanzenbacher headed to Bears, Saine to Packers Tuesday, July 26, 2011 10:47 AM Updated: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 01:52 PM By Bill Rabinowitz The Columbus Dispatch Eric Albrecht | Dispatch Chicago's lack of depth at receiver helped Dane Sanzenbacher make his choice. Undrafted Buckeyes find homes July 26, 2011 Dane Sanzenbacher's agent said that about 25 teams wanted to sign the former Ohio State wide receiver. Sanzenbacher might not have the measurables NFL teams covet, but most of them wanted the player voted Ohio State's Most Valuable Player on their team. In the end, the list was whittled down to the Cleveland Browns and Chicago Bears, and Sanzenbacher picked the Bears. "We got texts and calls through the night -- 1, 2, 3 in the morning," said Joe Flanagan, Sanzenbacher's agent. "I've never seen a more aggressive and heartfelt emotional sales process and pitches from NFL coaches on an undrafted person. We had a lot of choices he had to narrow down based on depth chart and scheme." Flanagan would not disclose Sanzenbacher's signing bonus but said that other teams offered considerably more than the Bears. But Chicago's lack of depth at receiver and offensive coordinator Mike Martz's history of success with receivers of Sanzenbacher's type proved decisive. Several other former Ohio State players also agreed to free-agent contracts. Normally, these are done right after the NFL draft. But the lockout kept everything in limbo until today. Offensive linemen Justin Boren signed with the Baltimore Ravens. Fellow lineman Bryant Browning will join the St. Louis Rams, as will long-snapper Jake McQuaide. Defensive back Devon Torrence signed with the Minnesota Vikings. Running back Brandon Saine flew to Green Bay to sign with the Packers. Several reports had defensive tackle Dexter Larimore signing with the New Orleans Saints. brabinowitz@dispatch.com
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That comment is very confusing. It implies the Browns have more depth than the Bears. I'm not sure I buy that at all. In fact, I'd sell it on eBay for a $1 buy-it-now.
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That comment is very confusing. It implies the Browns have more depth than the Bears. I'm not sure I buy that at all. In fact, I'd sell it on eBay for a $1 buy-it-now.
With the addition of little, and experience of mo, robo, and cribbs.. Dane wouldn't get much playing time.
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Our QB problems have been answered: www.KFFL.comCardinals | Derek Anderson a goner Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:02:54 -0700 The Arizona Cardinals will release QB Derek Anderson.
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The Cowboys are going to cut Marion Barber, Roy Williams, Leonard Davis, Marc Colombo, and their kicker. link Giants are cutting former Brown Shaun O'Hara. link
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Anyone interested in bringing in Roy Williams? http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/26/roy-williams-marion-barber-done-in-big-d/Roy Williams, Marion Barber done in Big D Posted by Michael David Smith on July 26, 2011, 2:32 PM EDT The Dallas Cowboys are saying goodbye to wide receiver Roy Williams and running back Marion Barber. Cowboys owner Jerry Jones told Williams and Barber today that they shouldn’t show up to training camp because they’re going to get cut, ESPNDallas.com is reporting. Williams and Barber are one of a number of cuts the Cowboys are making; guard Leonard Davis is already gone, as is kicker Kris Brown, and tackle Marc Colombo may be next. Williams has been a major disappointment since the Cowboys shipped first- and third-round picks to the Lions to acquire him. Williams signed a five-year, $45 million contract with $20 million guaranteed with the Cowboys, but he managed just 1,324 receiving yards in 40 games in Dallas. Barber has been a similar disappointment: He signed a seven-year, $45 million deal in 2008, with $16 million guaranteed, but he has failed to become a 1,000-yard runner and last year gained just 374 yards on 3.3 yards a carry.
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Figured this should go here: CINCINNATI (AP) -- Bengals owner Mike Brown insisted on Tuesday that he won't trade quarterback Carson Palmer, who wants to leave one of the NFL's least-successful franchises. Palmer, who has four years left on his contract, told the team in January that he would retire if he's not traded. The Bengals have only two winning seasons in the last 20 years, one of the worst stretches of futility in league history. Brown said the club will move on without its franchise quarterback. The Bengals plan to hold their first training camp workout Saturday in Georgetown, Ky. "I honestly like Carson Palmer," Brown said. "He was a splendid player for us. He's a good person. I wish him well. And he is retired. That is his choice. ... I'm not expecting him to be back." Asked why he wouldn't trade Palmer and get some draft picks in return, Brown said it was a matter of principle. "Carson signed a contract. He made a commitment. He gave his word," Brown said. "We relied on his word. We relied on his commitment. We expected him to perform here. He's going to walk away from his commitment. We aren't going to reward him for doing it." Brown has traditionally taken a hard line on players trying to leave. Receiver Chad Ochocinco unsuccessfully lobbied for a trade three years ago, but Brown refused. Ochocinco has one year left on his deal, but is hoping to be released in the next few weeks. Brown and coach Marvin Lewis declined to say anything about Ochocinco on Tuesday other than that he's under contract. The Bengals picked receiver A.J. Green in the first round of the draft, giving themselves his eventual replacement. The Bengals drafted Andy Dalton in the second round last April. Brown indicated on Tuesday that he'll be the starter heading into camp, even though he hasn't been able to work with coaches because of the NFL's lockout. Jordan Palmer -- Carson's younger brother -- is the only experienced quarterback on the roster. Brown said the team will look for another veteran, but will give Dalton a chance to win the job. "We think he is promising for our future," Brown said. "Yes, he'll have teething problems. It won't be altogether easy for him all the time. But we're going to put him in there. If he can do it, we're going to go with him. And I hope he can manage it." The Bengals are coming off a 4-12 season that included 10 straight losses. Carson Palmer told the team he wouldn't be back after Lewis decided to return even though Brown promised no significant changes in how the organization is run. The Bengals originally planned to have players report at Georgetown College -- a 90-mile drive south of Cincinnati -- on Wednesday and have their first practice a day later. They pushed the schedule back by two days. link
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No they posted it. I just didn't think he (Kris Brown) was relevant.
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Williams was a stud under Mooch, get him cheap and no question, you bring him in.
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"Carson signed a contract. He made a commitment. He gave his word," Brown said. "We relied on his word. We relied on his commitment. We expected him to perform here. He's going to walk away from his commitment. We aren't going to reward him for doing it."
I can't agree with Mike Brown at all but I'd meet him half way if the Bengals never cut an underperforming player before their contract reached the end. I quite sure they have cut players....so why is he all of a sudden playing the "commitment card" as if it was one fo the ten commandments?
I'm sure they could get a 3rd rounder for Carson.....jeez, talk about stupid. I guess Chad Johnson will be sticking around no matter what....even if the team and him don't want each other. What a horrible mess down there.
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Just throwing this out there What if the Jets get scrabbles? 
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Asked why he wouldn't trade Palmer and get some draft picks in return, Brown said it was a matter of principle.
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I can't agree with Mike Brown at all but I'd meet him half way if the Bengals never cut an underperforming player before their contract reached the end. I quite sure they have cut players....so why is he all of a sudden playing the "commitment card" as if it was one fo the ten commandments?
I'm sure they could get a 3rd rounder for Carson.....jeez, talk about stupid. I guess Chad Johnson will be sticking around no matter what....even if the team and him don't want each other. What a horrible mess down there.
So Brown will be OK with Carson riding the pines and sending Tweets from the sidelines because he can't be bothered to get ready to play? And of course this will be taking place while the Bengals are losing. I would imagine the fans would be a bit upset. They should get rid of him ASAP. Of course seeing as how it's Mike Brown we're talking about that probably won't happen.
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not worried about it. more worried if Baltimore gets him.
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+1 - I don't care where he goes, as long as it's not within the AFC North (well, unless it was with us).
There are some new rumors about Baltimore clearing even more cap space than the cuts from yesterday....all to get Nnamdi (never knew his nickname was scrabbles).
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I really hope that we get tp the point where we don't worry too much about who our rivals go get .... but instead believe that our team can beat them anyway.
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I don't think you ever get to that point fully though. I mean, I'd bet Steeler fans don't want to see Baltimore get him either (he'd likely matchup/shutdown Mike Wallace) and they have owned the Ravens recently.
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Eagles won’t re-sign any of their unrestricted free agents
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on July 26, 2011, 5:15 PM EDT
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Most teams talk endlessly about the importance of re-signing their own players. The Eagles are taking the exact opposite approach.
The Eagles won’t re-sign any of their free agents.
Jonathan Tamari of the Philadelphia Inquirer reports that the team won’t pursue linebacker Stewart Bradley. Or safety Quintin Mikell. Or punter Sav Rocca. Or running back Jerome Harrison. Others that will get ignored: cornerback Dimitri Patterson, center Nick Cole and guard Max Jean-Gilles.
Bradley and Harrison are probably the biggest surprises on that list. Harrison produced well as LeSean McCoy’s backup, but the team drafted a running back and will look elsewhere in free agency. Bradley was a team leader for a while, but won’t merit an offer.
We know the Eagles are gearing up to make big moves in free agency. They needed to clear the decks, and they did so by letting go of their entire free agent class.
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Harrison can't seem to catch a break.... too bad, he was fun to watch
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It makes me think of two quick things:
A. Which one(s) will be Browns by this weekend.
B. For those who were such huge Jerome Harrison supporters ... is he a problem that they don't want him back? Does he want to be paid more? Or is he just not that good?
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Ouch, BIG money. Oh well.
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Well this much I know is true and that is no team can sign their FA yet, but if that is true then more power to them, because that's a lot of money for a QB let alone a DE.
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The Seahawks are also rumored to be talking to Matty Leinart. A QB battle of Tavaris Jackson, Matty Leinart, and Chaz Whitehurst. It's a good time to be a Seahawk fan!
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