|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 724
All Pro
|
OP
All Pro
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 724 |
Browns | Droughns to be released
Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:15:25 -0800
Adam Schefter, of NFL Network, reports Cleveland Browns RB Reuben Droughns will be released.
This is from Kffl.com Sorry if its posted somewhere, I didnt see it.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,704
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,704 |
Figured he would be. Too bad though, I really liked Ruben. I hope he is successful somewhere else. Good luck Ruben and thanks for the 1,000+ yard season 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6
Rookie
|
|
Rookie
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6 |
Looks like we're going with AP afterall.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,704
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,704 |
Doubt it. I think signing Jamal Lewis says we are going to hold off on a running back until next years draft when the draft is going to be deep with running backs, and we are going to use this years pick to fill another need. Most likely QB.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,556
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,556 |
the Browns will release only if they cant find a trade partner but with the 2 back system being so successful it shouldnt be to hard to move him for a 4th rounder.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 533
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 533 |
There are some good prospects in this draft. Irons, Leonard, Bush, Hunt, Pittman, Henry and the two name guys Peterson and Lynch. A couple of those guys, should be available in the 3rd if Phil wants to go that way. I think Phil is gonna be burning the batteries up in his phones, leading up to the draft  . Thomas or Tradedown is what I'd like to see. Pretty deep draft for most our immediate needs IMO.
"They had it before you, They had it during you, They"ll have it after you're gone."
Al McGuire on Kentucky basketball tradition.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,744
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,744 |
This means nothing other than Droughns temporarily doesn't have a job..  This probably means we are making space for Jamal Lewis to be our featured back....with that being the case I highly doubt we draft Peterson unless Thomas and Quinn are already gone...
Go Browns!!![[Linked Image]](http://www.dawgtalkers.net/uploads/BrowniePoints/AndersonSnowPic.jpg)
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 68
Practice Squad
|
|
Practice Squad
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 68 |
I agree, there's no point in having Droughns if we're going to primarily be running Lewis and Droughns certainly doesn't fit the bill as a change of pace back. There's just no point in keeping him as much as I enjoyed seeing him run in 2005. I like the guy and hope he can go somewhere where his bruising, pounding running style is effective.
HAVE FAITH IN YOUR TEAM! GO BROWNS!!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,693
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,693 |
Packers | Interest in Droughns? Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:26:22 -0800 Adam Schefter, of NFL Network, reports if the Cleveland Browns release RB Reuben Droughns, the Green Bay Packers could make a push to sign him. KFFL
![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/hfMNC7T.jpg) "I am undeterred and I am undaunted." --Kevin Stefanski "Big hairy American winning machines." --Baker Mayfield #gmstrong
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,528
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,528 |
Wow, if you asked me whether or not this would happen a year ago, I'd be shocked, although he's had his share of strikes since he's been here whatnot with the holdout, the near DUI, and the spousal abuse.
I do think that Droughns would do well in a system like Green Bay. They do need someone to protect Favre during the pass plays.
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
#gmstrong
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 68
Practice Squad
|
|
Practice Squad
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 68 |
Wow, but that would make a lot of sense. I wonder how successful he'll be. The Packers invested in a lot of O-Line and they had a year to gel so Droughns could be pretty successful there.
HAVE FAITH IN YOUR TEAM! GO BROWNS!!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,528
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,528 |
Who have they invested in, OL wise? I'm just curious.
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
#gmstrong
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,803
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,803 |
Quote:
the Browns will release only if they cant find a trade partner but with the 2 back system being so successful it shouldnt be to hard to move him for a 4th rounder.
No way we get a fourth rounder for Droughns. No team is going to pick up his contract when they can get him much cheaper in a few days. Bad line or not, he is coming off a sub par year which he was also injured. He is a good guy and I think he still can produce. Hopefully he will get that chance.
#gmstrong
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,528
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,528 |
What if we throw in Andrew Hoffman?
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
#gmstrong
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,015
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,015 |
I completely agree. One report said there are three teams talking to the Browns about him. Ok, so let's take that at face value. Why send a 4th rounder when you can offer him the same money and land him in a week or two? It's not as though they are releasing Edge James.
Something later than a 4th, maybe, but it still seems unlikely.
***Gordon, I really didn't think you could be this stOOpid, but you exceeded my expectations. Wussy.
Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,803
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,803 |
Quote:
Who have they invested in, OL wise? I'm just curious.
He is talking about last year. They picked up since last year;
Bourke, Josh
Coston, Junius
Leffew, Travis
Colledge, Daryn
Moll, Tony
Palmer, Tony
Spitz, Jason
Colledge is their starting left guard, Spitz their starting right guard, Moll their primary backup on the right side.
http://www.nfl.com/teams/depthcharts/GB
#gmstrong
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,223
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,223 |
Quote:
What if we throw in Andrew Hoffman?
Bite your tongue! 
This team can't survive without Hoffman. Give them Ken Dorsey.
![[Linked Image from pic18.picturetrail.com]](http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL905/3216203/6567769/349897772.jpg) "The Browns' defense is kicking mucho dupa."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,186
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,186 |
I would be salivating if anyone offers us a 4th rd pick for reuben. he's not going to be expensive, so why would anybody offer us a draft pick is beyond me.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,943
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,943 |
Quote:
Packers | Interest in Droughns?
Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:26:22 -0800
Adam Schefter, of NFL Network, reports if the Cleveland Browns release RB Reuben Droughns, the Green Bay Packers could make a push to sign him.
KFFL
Gotta love how Schefter has an opinion and puts it out as news. He mentioned this on total access. But it wasn't mentioned as them actualy being interested.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 68
Practice Squad
|
|
Practice Squad
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 68 |
Quote:
Quote:
Who have they invested in, OL wise? I'm just curious.
He is talking about last year. They picked up since last year;
Bourke, Josh
Coston, Junius
Leffew, Travis
Colledge, Daryn
Moll, Tony
Palmer, Tony
Spitz, Jason
Colledge is their starting left guard, Spitz their starting right guard, Moll their primary backup on the right side.
http://www.nfl.com/teams/depthcharts/GB
Thanks for the help. I made that statement then went into the Draft board, then starting watching some Discovery Channel special on the 300 movie and totally didn't come back to go into more detail on my statement.
HAVE FAITH IN YOUR TEAM! GO BROWNS!!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 246
Practice Squad
|
|
Practice Squad
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 246 |
I would think he could get 6th or 7th rounder...come on he is a good RB, not great but good and low cost. jmho
Go Browns !!!!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 600
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 600 |
I fully expect the Browns to release Droughns, no team would be stupid enough to offer us something when they know we will be releasing him anyway!(unless Detroit are interested  ). IMO another good move by Savage as I see Lewis as an upgrade over Droughns. I see this as another step in the direction of taking Thomas at 3, if Thomas is already gone then a trade down seems the logical step and could still see us taking Peterson.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,960
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,960 |
Actually, I don't think that's what it means at all,,, in fact, I think it means either Joe Thomas or Brady Quinn....
With Lewis as a one year guy that could be extended if he does well, and what is supposed to be a much better RB draft class in 2008, I think it means that Savage goes for a QB or, and I think this is a safer bet,, LT like Thomas...
My guess,,,THOMAS
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe."
Damanshot
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 27,365
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 27,365 |
If we have the cap room, why not keep RD as insurance in case Lewis gets hurt?
I AM ALWAYS RIGHT... except when I am wrong.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,165
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,165 |
Quote:
If we have the cap room, why not keep RD as insurance in case Lewis gets hurt?
Because from a GM's perspective he's overpaid. Hopefully once RD has tested the market and knows what his fair-value is, Phil will make an effort to resign him.
The lesson learned last year with Faine was a painful one. Phil better not make the same mistake again.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 39,682
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 39,682 |
Quote:
I fully expect the Browns to release Droughns, no team would be stupid enough to offer us something when they know we will be releasing him anyway!
As I explained on the other Droughns thread, a trade isn't out of the question. Green Bay has expressed interest. More then likely there are a few other teams.
If a team is up against the cap and has just enough money to take Droughns on, then a trade might be the best or only way to secure his services. They might not be in a position to start bidding with other teams who have a boat load of money.
All teams are under fan pressure to make some moves in FA...I still think we could get something for the guy.
The idea of a 4th rounder isn't real...a 7th rounder....maybe a conditional 6th is the best we can hope for at this point.
Look for any trade partner to be a team with low cap space.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. GM Strong ![[Linked Image]](http://www.dawgtalkers.net/uploads/small-gator-chomp.gif)
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 600
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 600 |
Valid point Peen but .....
Presumably Droughns would get a say in whether he wanted to join the potential trade team? if so? why would he? when logically he could get more money for himself if he gets cut?
Droughns will want the best for himself. That will mean getting cut by the Browns and playing teams off against eachother for his benefit not ours.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,165
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,165 |
Quote:
why would he? when logically he could get more money for himself if he gets cut?
That's the heart of it. The money.
If RD gets cut and has to renegotiate he may actually get less money. Some would argue that he's overpaid in 2007 compared to other RB's. Taking a trade may actually protect RD finacially.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,960
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,960 |
Someone else said it on another Droughns or McGahee or Lewis thread,,
But what really makes a ton of sense is for Buffalo to give up a 3rd or 4th rounder to us to get Droughns...
He's not a bad back, he can run in foul weather, he's a hard worker and he's NOT a cap killer... To me, that's perfect,, and to boot, Buffalo has a few extra picks because of the McGahee trade..
I wish I'd have thought of it first,but someone else did..
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe."
Damanshot
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 602
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 602 |
Quote:
If RD gets cut and has to renegotiate he may actually get less money. Some would argue that he's overpaid in 2007 compared to other RB's. Taking a trade may actually protect RD finacially.
While ALSO protecting the team trading for him from getting into a bidding war that makes someone overpay for him.
Born and breed with OSU, App. State alumni, but bleed orange and brown.
Go ARMY......Beat Navy!!!!!!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 10,246
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 10,246 |
Not a surprise if it happens, but that doesn't mean we have to like it. I like Droughns and I really hope he catches on somewhere and kicks some butt (except against us). Plus, my wife has a Droughns jersey. Before, she had a Suggs jersey. Anyone else we should get rid of? I'll have my wife get their jersey and they're as good as gone!
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,445
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,445 |
Droughns is still a serviceable back...
If I was the team interested in him I'd TRADE for him and take on the remaining 3 years of his CURRENT Contract...Why???
At 1.25 and 1.5M over the next 2 years that's a BARGAIN even for a Split time back...
There's teams interested...THREE that I've heard...GB/Buffalo/Tennessee...
His 2007 salary ain't much more than his stature Vet Minimum...I guarantee ya' that if he hits the FA Market by us releasing him he'll get a decent sized Signing Bonus...Might only be a couple million over 2 years...But figure it out...The Cap Hit will be MORE than the 1.25M Base the team that trades for em' will inherit...
This might be INSANE...But I'd almost consider GIVING him the 1.75M Roster Bonus just to keep him and use him as a trade up option much like Faine last year...1.75M is chump change to Lerner...Or even try to get a 5th for him and use THAT to move up in round 2ish area...
To ME it's every bit worth the money and the increased cap hit to use him or the pick we get from trading him to move up in round 2 and MAKE SURE we secure a Sears or Blalock...
I need to read that again...lol...
Go Browns!!!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,864
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,864 |
Sweeeeet! It was fun while it ;asted Rueben. If this were the Browns 3 years ago we would keep you, and let you rot on our bench. Glad Phil is here!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,445
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,445 |
ARE YOU INSANEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE???????????????
Go Browns!!!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 11,850
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 11,850 |
Quote:
Not a surprise if it happens, but that doesn't mean we have to like it. I like Droughns and I really hope he catches on somewhere and kicks some butt (except against us). Plus, my wife has a Droughns jersey. Before, she had a Suggs jersey. Anyone else we should get rid of? I'll have my wife get their jersey and they're as good as gone!
lol.. thats why i got a Winlsow jersey.. I knew he would be here for years.. lol..
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 600
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 600 |
Far from being insane that makes alot of sense!
The only way I see him being traded is IF we pay the roster bonus. Droughn's knows there are a number of teams looking for a RB - Buffalo, Titans, GB, Giants and arguably some others! he will use this to his advantage. Although his production dropped off, his salary is relatively small in the wider scope of the increased salary cap.
Droughns holds all of the cards in this situation. If I was in his position I would not be interested in a trade BEFORE the roster bonus is due. It may be Droughn's last pay day and he should make the most of it.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 253
1st String
|
|
1st String
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 253 |
Quote:
I'll have my wife get their jersey and they're as good as gone
Gary Baxter, then maybe we can reach a settlement instead of hanging on to him to see if he can make "history".
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,864
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,864 |
Quote:
ARE YOU INSANEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE???????????????
Talking to yourself? 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 10,246
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 10,246 |
lol, that's why I have a personalized one (the wife got it for me for Christmas a couple years ago).
I think we may have to get her a personalized one or maybe a Sipe or Kosar or Newsome, or something like that.
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,160
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,160 |
Things are definatley heating up..
|
|
|
DawgTalkers.net
Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Droughns to be released.
|
|
![[Linked Image from img.villagephotos.com]](http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2007-7/1269719/ericturner.jpg)
![[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]](https://i.ibb.co/6WV79RV/Browns-Coach-Sig.png)
![[Linked Image from img507.imageshack.us]](http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/171/sigyg0.png)
