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Texas A&M QB Ryan Tannehill may need foot surgery

Posted by Michael David Smith on January 12, 2012
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AP - The foot injury that will keep Texas A&M quarterback Ryan Tannehill out of the Senior Bowl may require surgery.

Tannehill’s agent, Pat Dye, confirmed to ESPN.com that Tannehill broke a fifth metatarsal in a passing drill and might need surgery.

Although recovery from the surgery could keep Tannehill from working out at the scouting combine in February, Dye said he’s optimistic Tannehill will be able to throw for coaches and scouts by March, well before the NFL draft, which begins on April 26.

Tannehill is considered by many to be this year’s third-best quarterback and the best senior quarterback, behind juniors Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III. Tannehill is a good athlete who started his college career at wide receiver but showed off an NFL-ready passing arm during his senior season.

Crazy color CleveSteve...

The fifth metatarsal is a common injury pertaining to foot injuries in athletes...

it was my suggestion for color-coding sarcastic posts a month or two ago...

hmmm..... well if the browns were looking at him, he should be available at #22. I was beginning to think he could shoot up the board a bit, but no way is he healthy enough to have solid workouts or a spectacular combine.

He'll be lucky to be out of a cam boot in 8 weeks, 10 weeks is more realistic. That leaves him less then a month to get in shape and wow the league.....

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hmmm..... well if the browns were looking at him, he should be available at #22. I was beginning to think he could shoot up the board a bit, but no way is he healthy enough to have solid workouts or a spectacular combine.

He'll be lucky to be out of a cam boot in 8 weeks, 10 weeks is more realistic. That leaves him less then a month to get in shape and wow the league.....

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Feels strange but I'm happy he got injured. Hopefully he slides to us. I still don't know if he'll make it past Miami, Seattle, or Jax. If you look at where Locker, Gabbert, Ponder went last season...theres a fairly good chance Tannehill isn't sliding to 22.

Where do you guys have Tannehill ranked in comparison to those three?

His injury is really good for us. Hell he could fall into the 2nd round now. Hmm.
Little wheeling and dealing we could come out of this thing really good.

If you don't mind, I'm not going to post the articles just the links.. and also, by laying this stuff out, please don't get the impression I'm for drafting him, I'm just doing my part to provide info

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/feed/201...f-senior-season

or

http://nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=72020&draftyear=2012&genpos=QB

or

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/10184...-a-huge-setback

Just some info I found on him.. didn't look that hard

Get him. Trade down, aquire picks but I've liked him from the get go as did Mourgrym.

Chase Minnifield at #22 then. Best WR, OL, LB from there.

I've liked him as well. I hope we draft him.



Best case is to trade down about 10 slots, and draft him at #14, and pick up another pick for moving down. I am thinking it would be a 3rd round selection.

That's the best case? Last year we moved up 6 spots from #27 to #21 and gave up a high 3rd, and the best case you see moving down from 4 to 14 is a 3rd? I feel like we should at least ask for a backup DL and a 3rd-string QB in addition.

Say the Boys see Claiborne as a must have to fix their secondary because Dennard is looking a bit stiff and kirkpatrick seeing his stock go up in smoke. It probably costs them 2nd this year and as much as a first next year.

I don't know... last year they were at #9 and a lot of people thought they'd trade up to get patrick peterson. Would they trade up to #4 to get Claiborne this year and pay even more? Peterson was seen by many as the top overall prospect in last year's draft.

whoa, dude. You are relying way too much on the trade value chart. That thing is too antiquated to be relevant.

sorry, man. it's my training as an engineer. the most important part of the post is always the number/equation to me.

I don't know if any of the below sites know what they're talking about or not. But collectively they're saying pretty much what I've seen most say about Tannehill...




Tannehill is a converted quarterback after playing wide receiver for the first half of his career. It should be noted that Tannehill wasn't just some reserve receiver, he was the team's leading receiver the two seasons prior to becoming a quarterback.

Like you might imagine for a wide receiver turned quarterback, Tannehill has a very lean frame that will need to be bulked up to take punishment in the NFL. And while he is particularly mobile and fleet-footed when he decides to tuck and run, he certainly needs a lot of work with his mechanics and footwork.

Scouts can see the potential given his height, quick release and solid accuracy on short to intermediate, but his arm strength is lacking. On deep balls, there just isn't much accuracy and he seems to be aiming or guiding his long throws, rather than just letting it rip. His stock is on the rise since he is leading the Texas A&M Aggies to plenty of wins, but when the tape comes on, reality sets in. You've got an inexperienced quarterback with a ton of potential who will need patience and coaching in order to be a full-fledged NFL quarterback.

Tannehill is trending upward and has the potential to be a first round pick in the 2012 NFL Draft
fftoobox.com



Strengths:
Impressive overall size and strength. Decent mobility; can move around in the pocket to avoid pressure. Looks fairly athletic on roll outs. A threat to take off running when the play breaks down. NFL-caliber accuracy on short and intermediate routes. Took a more active role in offense in senior year, adjusting more plays at line of scrimmage. Team leader on and off the field; well respected by teammates and coaches.

Weaknesses:
Tends to lock on to a receiver and force the ball into tight coverage. Needs be more patient and go through his progressions. Arm strength is adequate, but nothing special. Accuracy on the deep ball is inconsistent; struggles finding the right trajectory to drop it in over a receiver’s shoulder. Somewhat unorthodox throwing motion (sort of a three-quarters delivery angle); may not be a major issue, but takes away slightly from his height advantage and may contribute to his struggles on deep balls.

Comments:
Tannehill has the skills to play at the next level and may be able to develop into a starter. He has the size, as well as adequate arm strength and accuracy. Additionally, he appears to have the work ethic and the intelligence necessary to master the intellectual aspect of the game. A team desperate for an upgrade at quarterback may reach for him in the late 1st or 2nd round and throw him into the fire. However, he should really sit and learn for a year or two. His inability to remain patient and read the whole field on a consistent basis will get him in trouble at the next level. Given some time to sit and learn an NFL offensel should allow him to become more comfortable hanging in the pocket longer and making better decisions with the football.
draftface.com


Production:
Converted to wide receiver from quarterback in his freshman year of 2008 and then moved back to quarterback his junior year in 2010. As a receiver he was very productive leading the team in receiving in both his freshman and sophomore seasons. During his stretch as a quarterback; half of the 2010 season and all of the 2011 season he threw for 5,450 yards with 42 touchdown passes and 21 interceptions. 15 of his career interceptions were forced in his senior season. He completed 67 percent of his passes in 2011.

Size and Speed:
Has a lean frame and will need to add a little more mass to take on hits at the next level. Has the height you want in a quarterback and good speed.

Intangibles:
Dedicated to the team and that shows in his willingness to change positions. After losing the starting job at quarterback in his freshman season to Jerrod Johnson, he decided to make a switch to receiver. Claimed the starting quarterback position from Johnson in the middle of the 2010 season and led the Aggies to a 5-1 record in the final six games. Game management needs work especially when trying to run out the clock.

Accuracy:
Needs to work on the long ball accuracy as he will sail the ball at times and put too much air under it on other attempts. Often under throws receivers who are wide open causing them to have to come back or slow down for the ball to get there.

Arm Strength:
Has an NFL caliber arm. Has the velocity needed to throw from the hash to the sidelines.

Setup and Release:
Still very raw in his delivery and because of that he is inconsistent with his release. Will at times wind his throws up and often sidearm his throw.

Ability to Read Defenses:
Still a work in progress because of the experience at the position. Needs to read the coverage better at times and recognize where he is leading his receiver.

Mobility:
A duel threat quarterback who can make plays on the run.

Final Thought:
Tannehill is going to be a project for an NFL team. I don’t see him as a first round pick at this point, however the scouting combine could help his case. More than likely a second or third round pick that a team will develop over a few years before considering him as starting material. Safe pick in that he could be a receiver if he doesn’t work out as a quarterback.
profootballhuddle.com




Arm Strength:
Tannehill has the arm strength to stretch the defense. He can fit the ball into tight windows. He won’t blow scouts away with his arm but has enough to be considered a little above-average.

Accuracy:
Tannehill has actively worked on his accuracy. He still makes to many mistakes with the ball but that will come with his development in reading defenses. Tannehill is accurate on the move which makes him a danger because of the possibility to pull the ball down and make plays.

Athleticism:
Before taking over at QB for Jerrod Johnson at A&M he played wide receiver. He has the ability to scramble and throw on the run. His athleticism is very similar to that of 2011 2nd rounder, Colin Kaepernick.

Intangibles:
Tannehill is a the clear leader of the A&M team but still is learning the position. He makes some bad reads which allows for interceptions and will have to cut those down in the NFL. Tannehill has the football acumen and an added advantage of playing for Mike Sherman. He has only a year and a half of experience under center but has shown the ability to develop in a short period of time. His upside is through the roof once he can focus on being a quarterback as a profession.

Bottom Line:
Playing under Mike Sherman will surely help Tannehill’s development as an NFL quarterback. His lack of playing experience is a concern. Tannehill’s upside will be sure to intrigue an NFL team in the late portion of round one or early round-two.

Draft Projection:
Tannehill is an early day two prospect with a ton of upside. Given the lack of quality behind Luck and Griffin, Tannehill could easily slide into round one.
nflsfuture.com



Comparison: Alex Smith

Grade: 8.2 ¦ About the Grade

Pros:

Terrific Athlete, former WR
Has the size you look for in a QB
Solid mechanics – Squares his shoulders and displays proper footwork. Great throwing motion
Shows great mechanics on the run, keeps his eyes upfield and keeps his shoulders squared with the LOS
Threat to run, but not a run first QB
Very good accuracy in the short and middle game, loses some deep, but not an area of concern
Can make all the throws
Stands tall in the pocket
N character concerns. Has the “It” factor and a positive swagger about his game

Cons:

Limited experiences as a QB
Needs to improve in pre and post-snap reads
Tends to force the ball at times
Has to improve on putting more touch on the ball, will zip it when he doesn’t need to
Has the tendency to lock onto his WR’s
Still developing as a QB

MockDraft101′s Opinion:

Tannehill is an intriguing prospect who shares some similarities with San Francisco’s Alex Smith. Both can escaoe the pocket, and both display good accuracy. However, Tannehill has more untapped potential and a higher ceiling. Tannehill will not make an immediate impact his rookie season, but with good coaching could become a solid starter for this league in 2-3 years.
mockdraft101.com

Lol a mechanical pencil. I suppose if I ever wrote anything down I might use one.

Peen i haven't used a pocket proctor since 4 grade...the ball point pin saved my shirts...lol i don;t think 2/3 of our posters ever used a fountian pen to do their school work.

RG3 easily has a bigger bust potential IMO...

First off, he's going higher, and will PROBABLY be starting from the beginning...

Tennehill may not go till the 2nd round (I hope) and with his injury will get to sit and learn...

I really like Tannehill's height and arm strength, and the fact that he's familiar with the system is just gravy on the potatoes...

I would be completely fine with Drafting Tannehill and Starting Colt next season... ESPECIALLY if we can get Tann in the 2nd round, if we have to take him at 22 I think that puts too much pressure on him to play sooner IMO...

A broken foot that will be healed in a couple months isn't going to keep Tannehill on the bench.

I think Tannehill is risker than RG3 is. Both are raw as passers, but we already know RG3 can make incredible plays running and passing the ball. Tannehill has the ability to do so, but he hasn't done it nearly as much.

I didn't realize he'd be healed so quickly... Hopefully he doesn't rush it and make itworse... Feet are somewhat important to a QB...

I wonder if Sherman hadn't been fired, if he would have come out this year? He seems like somone that could of gone for sure Top 5-10 next year had he stayed...

Comparing RG3 to Tannehill... ven ignoring the costof #4 vs #22, I'd pick Tannehill...

He's got the height, and the size, Maybe I'll be wrong, but I just don't see RG3 overcoming his small stature like very few other QBs have...

Tannehill was a senior. No option on coming out.

Shows how much I pay attention.

not to mention RGIII has three full years of starting at QB while Tannehill only has a year and a half. I think Tannehill is clearly prospect which clearly needs more work on accuracy and ball placement. Griffin will have more to learn in terms of learning a new offense, but when I saw Tannehill play I mostly saw a bunch of dumps and screen passes anyways.

From the games I saw, Baylor ran ALOT of WR/Bubble Screens...

It was definitely a part of their offense, but the main difference I saw was that while Baylor ran a lot of WR screens, they also ran plenty of routes down the field. The two times I saw A&M play, there were a lot of RB screens and a lot of checkdowns thrown. Baylor needed to run WR screens to pull the CBs up so they wouldn't cheat against the deep ball. The couple times I watched Tannehill, he didn't want to throw downfield. I don't know if it was good coverage or bad receivers or just him. It's a bit different IMO.

Exactly.

Baylor seemed to do the smart thing and run shorter stuff to open up the deep stuff.

That's exactly the philosophy in the WCO ...... throw short (and wide) to open up single coverages you can take advantage of.

Posted at 11:30 AM ET, 02/14/2012
NFL draft: Redskins’ best QB option could be Texas A&M’s Ryan Tannehill
By Mike Jones

In the last week, we took a look at quarterbacks Peyton Manning, Kyle Orton and Matt Flynn and how they may or may not fit with the Washington Redskins, who desperately need an answer under center.

But one thing’s clear. Regardless of whom the Redskins go with in free agency — whether the Colts release Manning and Mike Shanahan succeeds in luring the future Hall of Famer (if he’s healthy) to D.C., or if it’s Orton, which seems like the safer move, or if Washington elects to re-sign Rex Grossman — Washington must draft a quarterback.


Trading up to draft Robert Griffin III will be costly and Ryan Tannehill (17) might be available to Washington in the second round. (David J. Phillip - AP) Manning won’t have regained full strength by the time free agency begins on March 13, and he might not until closer to August. And if he does, how much longer can he play at a high level? One, two, three seasons?

Orton is solid, but isn’t a franchise savior. There doesn’t seem to be interest on Washington’s part in Flynn, and Grossman struggles to avoid turnovers.

So, it’d be ideal for the Redskins to select a passer in this year’s draft, groom him this year and then turn the wheel over to him next year.

Does it mean trading up to get Robert Griffin III at the No. 2 or No. 3 spot? Or does it mean sitting tight at No. 6, taking the best available player that fills a need – wide receiver, offensive lineman, defensive back – and then going after someone like Texas A&M’s Ryan Tannehill with the second-round pick?

That’s what Mike Shanahan & Co. must decide. Griffin doesn’t have the size of Cam Newton, but is compared to him, and he seems to have the tools that fit what Kyle Shanahan likes to do with his offense.

It would mean swapping this year’s first-round picks, giving away next year’s first-rounder and possibly this year’s second- or third-rounder. But if Griffin is as good as advertised, then Mike Shanahan not only finds his answer at quarterback, but also buys himself some more time in his rebuilding process.

Would the Redskins be able to pull off a trade with the Rams at No. 2? It would seem like their chances are good. Shanahan is close with the new St. Louis coach, Jeff Fisher, who has helped Shanahan out with a quarterback in the draft before. In 2006, Shanahan interviewed Jay Cutler at the NFL Scouting Combine, but never had him out to Denver for a pre-draft workout/interview because he didn’t want other teams to suspect his interest. Instead, he picked the brain of Fisher, who had spent time with Cutler. The Broncos traded up to the 11th spot and selected the Vanderbilt passer.

Could that friendship come into play again?

Or, are the Redskins safer either using the sixth pick or trading down from there, adding more picks to improve their overall depth, using that first-rounder on another need and then getting Tannehill in the second?

There is some intrigue over Tannehill on the Redskins’ part. The coaches hoped for a chance to work with him at the Senior Bowl, but a broken foot kept that from happening, and it appears unlikely that he’ll be healthy in time for next week’s combine. But Tannehill was believed to have a first-round grade before his foot injury. He has good size at 6 feet 4, 222 pounds. Last season, he threw for 3,744 yards, 29 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. A converted wide receiver, he possesses good athleticism and mobility.

Not being able to work out for teams hurts, but Tannehill can still go through the interview processes.

Arizona’s Nick Foles, Oklahoma State’s Brandon Weeden and Michigan State’s Kirk Cousins all did more to eliminate themselves than help themselves at the Senior Bowl, so that limits Washington’s choices, and if it’s not Griffin or Tannehill, then who?

Waiting until next year could be the only other option, but with a combined 11-21 record in two seasons, 2013 is no sure thing for Mike Shanahan and his rebuilding project. But, you don’t just take a quarterback for the sake of taking a quarterback. The Redskins likely would try to upgrade other areas of the roster and hope to rely heavily on their defense and hope that this year’s bridge quarterback, whomever it may be, can keep them in games late in the season so Dan Snyder can tell his team is making progress. web page

Hmm, they think that Tannehill is going to drop into the 2nd round? I wonder what their thinking is? I wouldn't take him high in the draft, because of his inexperience and a couple of other factors, but I would think that a team would take him mid 1st at the latest. he does have the size teams look for, and a decent enough arm.

There have been a few mocks lately with Tannehill going to the Skins at 6 or Miami at 9. I believe he is someone that the Browns are going to be really high on and quiet possibly higher on Tannehill than on Griffin.

I think he is top 10 talent easily. Others think he is 2nd round material. what is really going to be interesting is if you are a GM and you think this guy is franchise material, do you take him like the Vikings did with Ponder or do you wait and take your chance that he falls?

Maybe we should pretend to be interested in tannehill so washington wil trade up to 2 to take him!

I would take Tannehill at #4, but I don't talk about it much to avoid enraging some people

Trade down with the Skins and take Tannehill at #6 sounds good to me. (Would also enrage some people )

Having Tannehill fall out of the first round made no sense to me. Last year had 4 QBs in the top 15, including the wondrous Blaine Gabbert, and Christian Ponder. Tannehill at #22 sounds like a stretch with this many QB needy teams and such a large gap to the #4 QB.

I have always believed it was about finding the right guy for the right system. You don't have to be the greatest just have to be a great fit. Tannehill is the right guy for this system. If you watch the tape, you will see him over and over make the throws Colt struggles with look simple. The kid is special.

We took Little because he fit this system and was actually playing a very similar system. We took Marecik and Cameron because they fit this system and was actually playing in a very similar system.

It is why I believe we will target guys like Tannehill and Dwight Jones. They fit the system and have played in very similar systems. That doesnt mean everything but it damn sure means a lot. You simply do not have to do the big projections with these guys as you do with the RG3, Blaine Gabbert, Tim Tebow and Colt McCoy and Cam Newton's of the world.

You don't have to build the car from a box of parts, you just have to tighten a few bolts and shine it up. Put Tannehill in a vertical stretch offense and I probably give him a late first early 2nd grade as well. For this offense he has a very high value.

So you're saying.. you ..like... Tannehill?

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I'm not sure I understand that comment...

R u meaning projections as far as potential success or draft position???

Of the 3 top QB's and it's a unanimous Luck-RGIII-Tanny...Tanny has the MOST projection of potential success...Followed by RGIII for reasons we all know...

Mour...I don't give 2 squats what kind of offense Tanny has run...The FACT is he is one of the most RAW QB's to ever be talked about in Round 1 of any draft...EVER...I think you're blinded by that...

This kid has a TON to overcome...His feeling of pressure sucks...He stares down receivers...And throws into doubles and triples frequently...And that stuff is coming from people who have broken down film of him...That stuff right there is majorly hard to fix because it's gonna get 10 times worse when he sees the Speed of the NFL Game...

Being an inexperienced converted WR is making him a MAJOR PROJECT...If he steps on the field before year 3 I'd put his success rate at about 25% because of it all...And this injury has hurt him bigtime...He needed that SR Bowl...And he needs to partake in EVERYTHING at the Combines...Pro Day...And team workouts...Can he though with the foot???

If he was a 3 or 4 year Starter and showed progress every year...We might be talking about him right there with Luck...Cause he does have Proto-Type QB size for sure...But he's NOT...Which makes him a complete unknown...

I can easily see him being this years Ponder...Someone will take a huge risk taking him way higher than he should go...Like 10-15...I pray it isn't us...We would be much wiser to couple 22 with 4 and move to 2 for Griffin...Much better body of work with him...MUCH higher likelihood of success based on what needs improvement in Griffin's game...

I honestly believe we r gonna see a "Deer in Headlights" when it comes to Tannehill...There is just way 2 much for him to overcome because MOST of it will have to do with adjusting to the Speed of the Game...And I don't think he ever will...Just my Opinion...