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Matt Flynn? Dolphins
Peyton Manning? Retired
Donovan McNabb? Backup gig in Dallas.
Andrew Luck? Colts
RG3? Cleveland
Ryan Tannehill? Denver
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Wow you really have Tann going to Denver? They already have Tebow and Quinn 2 1st round picks. I just dont see that happening. I think you could swap McNabb retiring and Manning going to Washington. Im not sure but think McNabb is done that doesnt mean teams wont bring him in heck we may bring him in.  
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I don't see why anyone thinks McNabb will be in the league next year. He was cut mid-season and teams that needed QB's (Bears, Texans) didn't even look at him.
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Prediction game time. Where will these quarterbacks be playing in 2012?
Matt Flynn - Miami
Peyton Manning - Washington
Donovan McNabb - Retired
Andrew Luck - Indianapolis
RG3 - Cleveland
Ryan Tannehill - Seattle
I reserve the right to change my opinion when a gentle breeze blows momentum another direction, way too early to say anything with too much confidence. Peyton's situation will have a domino effect that can change everything when it gets resolved.
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Prediction game time. Where will these quarterbacks be playing in 2012?
Matt Flynn- Miami
Peyton Manning- Washington
Donovan McNabb- retired
Andrew Luck- Indy
RG3 - Seattle
Ryan Tannehill - Pitt
Lol dont kill the messenger. 
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You realize Roethlisberger is only 30-years-old, right?
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I want to know what Seattle gave up to get above Cleveland there.
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I'll answer both those questions I think Pitt would see value with Tann being injured and they can let him sit for a couple years. Big Ben is becoming damaged goods just my opinion and they have a great chance to get a guy to ride the pine behind him for a couple years. I was debating in my mind if he would go to either them or some other team drafting low even GB seeing as they lose Flynn. Its all speculation anyway.
Pittsburgh really needs a young backup to start to groom.
I think he will be a late 1st round pick so started to look at teams that have a knack for finding good talent in those rounds from always picking in those rounds.
As far as seatlle I think that the trade goes to us, we get their 1st this and next year plus some package of lesser picks. With the 11th or 12th pick I still think we would find value/get a playmaker and be in a good place next year as well.
Next year being a much better QB class makes me feel comfortable moving off RG3 but that is just me.
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Wow you really have Tann going to Denver? They already have Tebow and Quinn 2 1st round picks. I just dont see that happening.
I think you could swap McNabb retiring and Manning going to Washington.
Im not sure but think McNabb is done that doesnt mean teams wont bring him in heck we may bring him in.
Just as general information ...... Quinn will be a free agent. He might be back at a greatly reduced price .... or maybe a QB needy team who loses out on Flynn will make a desperation move for him. As long as it's not us, that could be helpful. IIRC, Orton is also a free agent. There is a decent list of middle tier QBs available in free agency, and hopefully teams who are rumored to move ahead of us instead buy a QB in free agency.
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Pete Carroll may have something to say about that.
Pete Carroll may have to throw all 16 games in order to be picking ahead of Jacksonville next year.
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Jacksonville should be able to win a few games. They do have a pretty good defense and a great running game. That can win you at least a few games in the regular season.
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Wow you really have Tann going to Denver? They already have Tebow and Quinn 2 1st round picks. I just dont see that happening.
I think you could swap McNabb retiring and Manning going to Washington.
Im not sure but think McNabb is done that doesnt mean teams wont bring him in heck we may bring him in.
Just a guess. Denver could easily cut Quinn who's about as worthless as they come. Something tells me Elway sees that this is a pretty decent team in a mediocre division, and I think it's obvious the Tebow thing isn't going to work. Anyone who actually thought the spread option was not going to be caught up with in the NFL was just fooling themselves, and only themselves.
I would not be surprsied to see them move a few pieces around and bring in a guy. Maybe Tannehill, maybe someone else. I just don't think they want another season of this nonsense. Yes I realize he made the playoffs, but they backed in at what, 8-8? If Tebow played in the AFCN, he'd have been put on IR in October. True story. Nice guy, not a real quarterback.
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Matt Flynn? Dolphins
Peyton Manning? Retired
Donovan McNabb? Backup gig in Dallas.
Andrew Luck? Colts
RG3? Cleveland
Ryan Tannehill? Denver
Could be...
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Though he said two weeks ago that Tim Tebow will begin training camp as the Denver Broncos' starting quarterback, John Elway insisted to The Denver Post on Monday that any player the team adds this offseason -- including a quarterback -- will compete for a starting job.
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"We will be in the market to find more quarterbacks," Elway, the Broncos' executive vice president of football operations, told the newspaper. "That's our approach with Tim being our starter as we go to training camp, that we'll look at free agency and the draft."
The Broncos haven't ruled out the return of free-agent Brady Quinn but practice-squad signee Adam Weber is their only other quarterback right now. Denver is expected to pursue a veteran backup via free agency and could, of course, select a quarterback in the NFL draft where their first pick is 25th in the opening round.
Tebow took over a 1-4 team in October and guided the Broncos to their first playoff berth since 2005. But he completed only 46.5 percent of his passes during the regular season and 40.4 percent during the playoffs while compiling an 8-5 overall record that included five second-half comebacks.
Elway told the newspaper his ideal quarterback is the "the big athlete who can throw the ball from the pocket."
"Anybody who comes in at any position is going to think they have a chance to compete," Elway told the Post. "Any free agent or anybody that comes in here when we start training camp is going to be competing for jobs.
"Obviously with Tim's reputation, if the guy is afraid to come in and compete for that job, then maybe he's not the right guy."
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Quinn will be a free agent following the Super Bowl.
The only QB the Broncos have under contract for next year, IIRC, is Tebow.
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Matt Flynn?Miami
Peyton Manning? Broadcasting booth
Donovan McNabb?Living with Mom eating Chunky soup
Andrew Luck?Colts
RG3? Washington
Ryan Tannehill? Seattle
A while back I thought Dallas could potentially be in play for Griffin after hearing Jerry Jones talk about the difference between the Giants and Dallas. They run a vertical offense and have Weapons galore so I'm not ruling this out yet.
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Matt Flynn? Dolphins
Peyton Manning? Retired
Donovan McNabb? Backup gig in Dallas.
Andrew Luck? Colts
RG3? Cleveland
Ryan Tannehill? Denver
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82...on-is-important
Though he said two weeks ago that Tim Tebow will begin training camp as the Denver Broncos' starting quarterback, John Elway insisted to The Denver Post on Monday that any player the team adds this offseason -- including a quarterback -- will compete for a starting job.
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"We will be in the market to find more quarterbacks," Elway, the Broncos' executive vice president of football operations, told the newspaper. "That's our approach with Tim being our starter as we go to training camp, that we'll look at free agency and the draft."
The Broncos haven't ruled out the return of free-agent Brady Quinn but practice-squad signee Adam Weber is their only other quarterback right now. Denver is expected to pursue a veteran backup via free agency and could, of course, select a quarterback in the NFL draft where their first pick is 25th in the opening round.
Tebow took over a 1-4 team in October and guided the Broncos to their first playoff berth since 2005. But he completed only 46.5 percent of his passes during the regular season and 40.4 percent during the playoffs while compiling an 8-5 overall record that included five second-half comebacks.
Elway told the newspaper his ideal quarterback is the "the big athlete who can throw the ball from the pocket."
"Anybody who comes in at any position is going to think they have a chance to compete," Elway told the Post. "Any free agent or anybody that comes in here when we start training camp is going to be competing for jobs.
"Obviously with Tim's reputation, if the guy is afraid to come in and compete for that job, then maybe he's not the right guy."
Yeah, that's stuff we have known all year, it was evident Elway respects and likes Tebow, but also realizes as a franchise going forward, they have to have a better plan in place. I don't blame him.
Honestly when I was answering Mourgrym's question, it was the first team that popped into my head when I read his name. I also think we are in the running for him, should we either trade or pass on RG3, or if he's just not there to begin with. I think it seems like he fits a lot of what we need at quarterback, but personally I just have not seen enough of him to really make a legitimate judgement on him. I think I saw maybe 1 or 2 A&M games all year.
I just get the feeling that Denver isn't going to sit on Tebow being the guy going forward. Elway knows how the NFL works, and although he walks on water in Denver, things are awlays different when you are involved with the team (hence the reason why I'm almost always against the former hero being involved with the team ie Bernie being a coach/gm/owner/etc)
I can't wait for the draft, I know people rag on us Browns fans for being excited about our "Super Bowl" but I always have seen it as a great chance to get better, younger, and more exciting.
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Jacksonville should be able to win a few games. They do have a pretty good defense and a great running game. That can win you at least a few games in the regular season.
it's good enough to beat Baltimore 
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also, one thing I noticed lately is how bad the AFC QBs are overall (especially w/o Peyton in the mix).
AFCE - Brady, Sanchez, Moore, Fitz
AFCN - Roeth, Flacco, Dalton, Colt
AFCS - Schaub(IR), Hasselbeck, Gabbert, Colts-QB
AFCW - Palmer, Tebow, Cassell (IR), Rivers
So, you have Brady, Roeth, Schaub(if healthy), Rivers (though he had a bad year). Then, you are already down to Dalton, Cassel, Flacco? Possibly Luck jumps up into this group if he has a good rookie year. Really shows how a good QB could change our fortunes pretty quickly in the AFC.
NFC has Rodgers, Brees, Eli, Stafford, Romo, Cam. Even Vick, Cutler, Ryan, and Freeman are better than that 2nd AFC group. I'd probably put Alex Smith squarely in that 2nd AFC group too.
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When the 2011 season ended, it was worth wondering if Matt Cassel was a lock to return to the Chiefs. It’s not worth wondering anymore.
Romeo Crennel seems to want a competition at quarterback, but his statements have indicated that Cassel will be part of that competition. New offensive coordinator Brian Daboll supported that notion Tuesday.
“A have a lot of confidence in Matt Cassel. I’ve watched him on tape and I know the player,” Daboll said via Josh Looney of KCChiefs.com.
Keeping Cassel makes sense. With Crennel in charge, the Chiefs are hoping to maintain as much continuity as possible. Cassel is “only” due $5.25 million this year after costing much more in previous years.
We wouldn’t be surprised to see the Chiefs bring back Kyle Orton or bring in a quality rookie to compete with Cassel. But Cassel remains the heavy favorite to be the Week 1 starter.
The money quote is this, "Romeo Crennel seems to want a competition at quarterback"
Of course he does. Romeo learn from your mistakes!
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Man, that's EXACTLY what I thought when I read that about Romeo. Man oh man . . . Back to Peyton. (sorry ) This is my first visit to this thread and I've seen plenty of guesses that he'll be in Miami or Washington. That's either 2 or more games against Tom Brady or 2 or more against his friggin' brother per season. Wowzers . . . ! I'm thinking he's going to be a Cardinal . . .
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If he's a Cardinal, then I assume they dumped Kolb, which he look, theres another WCO we can be linked too!
I think his best place to go would be Seattle, they have a solid Defense in place, a good running game (if they resign Lynch) and it's the NFC West, I sincerely doubt SF is going to win 13 games again...
I can see the reports out of STL already, Jeff Fisher, late night in his offense, bottle of jack on his table "I thought I was done with him..."
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I would sort of like Peyton to go to the Jets or Dolphins. Just to take it to his career nemesis Brady. It'd be fun.
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I would sort of like Peyton to go to the Jets or Dolphins. Just to take it to his career nemesis Brady. It'd be fun.
Spiteful ...but I like it... 
The way the Pats fans are talking about booting Tom....It would be even funnier if..Peyton went to the Pats.... 
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I would like little more than to hear Peyton actually say there's no way he'd ever play for that clown, Rex Ryan.
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I would like little more than to hear Peyton actually say there's no way he'd ever play for that clown, Rex Ryan.
Maybe it's just me, but does that really need said. I have every hope and belief that Manning is smarter than that. Besides, his little brother is now the King of NY...
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The thought of both Mannings in the same city is just crazy. The hype and SportsCenter drooling would be unbearable.
Browns is the Browns
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Are you implying with the above statement that the hype and drooling now is bearable?  I like the news of Matt Cassell staying in KC. It kind of makes a viable option of Orton available. I don't like Orton as much as Campbell for us, but have to think he'd be an upgrade at the position, and therefore someone not to thumb our nose at completely. If we don't like Griffin enough to move up and secure him at two or get him at four, then I'd like to see us go with a stopgap guy like the two I just mentioned and take a chance on a guy like Tannehill in a scenario we get him at #22. In grand scheme, Orton at QB for us next year is outside my top five favorite options, but would still be a slight upgrade to get us short-term competitive while upping the talent level of the team some and potentially grooming someone behind him.
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why on Earth would we sign Orton? if we need a QB to keep the seat warm for a rookie who is learning, then just let that guy be Colt.
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why on Earth would we sign Orton? if we need a QB to keep the seat warm for a rookie who is learning, then just let that guy be Colt.
Because we need to develop the other players on the team as well?
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Orton, Cambell.. etc.. Ehh.,
Stopgaps.. not long term answers. they've both been in the league for a while, both have had opportunities, both have had times when they looked terrific. Nothing bad to say about either guy.
BUT.. if we aren't sticking with Colt McCoy, then these guys aren't the answer.
What I mean by that is this, if the powers in Berea say McCoy isn't the guy, then for cryin out loud, go get the guy that's the answer long term.. The 10+ year QB that takes you to multiple Superbowls.. that's the guy you get.
As much as I'm not in favor of trading a bunch of picks to get Luck (major pipe dream) or RG3 (not really impossible at all) then if either of them is the guy,, then go for it, but PLEASE,, no more stopgaps..
I'm sick of the DA's, Holcombs, Garcias, Detmers, Delhommes and Dilfers..
Let's be honest, that's all Orton or Campbell will be..
So please Mike and Tom, skip that, either get the guy you want this year, or stick with Colt until you find the guy you want later.. Two things could occur
1. You find out what you have in Colt McCoy.. if he turns the corner,, GREAT
2. If he doesn't, there is no need to be second guessing.. Move on.. Get your guy next year.
NO MORE STOPGAPS.. PLEASE....
*NOTE: I keep forgetting Tannehill.. if they think he's the guy, nothing wrong with Grabbing him somewhere along the Draft if possible, either sit him behind McCoy or reverse it..
Don't care.. either way is fine with me.
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Because we need to develop the other players on the team as well?
and how are we going to do that with a QB that has never played in the WCO (so he'd have to learn it) and who is marginal at best anyway?
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His steadfast hatred of Colt McCoy has made him think that literally any QB will be better than McCoy.
At this point JaMarcus Russell is a better option (we could probably get him for a few bottles of purple drank though).
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why on Earth would we sign Orton? if we need a QB to keep the seat warm for a rookie who is learning, then just let that guy be Colt.
Because we need to develop the other players on the team as well?
and how are we going to do that with a QB that has never played in the WCO (so he'd have to learn it) and who is marginal at best anyway?
Because he throws to the wide receivers down the field.
I don't want Orton at all. He would be better than what we have though. There are really only 3 options that I would pursue at QB. I might take a late round flyer if I couldn't get one of those 3 ..... but other than that, I would probably stick with the winner of the McCoy/Wallace dance-off for a year.
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but other than that, I would probably stick with the winner of the McCoy/Wallace dance-off for a year.
I'm not sure there would be much of a competition, between those two.
It might be a good motivation tool, by making Colt work for it, but I think that he will be working his butt off anyways.
In any regard I would hate to go into the season with Wallace being our number 1 option at QB. Yuk!
I think at the very least we will hedge our bets this year at the position, but I don't think it's a given, that we will make a big splash in FA or even at the top of the Draft.
RG3 is not our only option some other team may trade above us at 4 and make that option moot ... There is Tannehill possibly at 22, then there is Weeden in round two and others like Nick Foles in round 3 or 4, that we can pick up in the Draft to hedge our bets with.
If RG3 is on the board at 4 and we really like him and take him there, then I'm on board with that decision.
However I don't see him coming in this offense and starting right off the bat. Maybe he does, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that occurring.
I know that big Mike has stated that this is Toms show, but he has veto power and he has stated that he doesn't like to press the issue at the QB position (thank God) in the draft and feels a need to let the draft come to him.
IF Washington or another team wants to give up draft picks and jump above us ... So be it, we still have other options and we have a draft every April.
RG3 is not the end all to end all as far as our options go to find
"the guy".
We are not backed in to the corner here and I have faith that H&H and CO. Do not think that we are either.
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Peyton Manning - Miami
Donovan McNabb - Retired
Andrew Luck - Indy
RG3 - Washington
Ryan Tannehill - San Diego
I think I'll adjust this to flip flop Manning and Flynn. Knowing Seattle has 36M in cap space, better receivers than Miami, a decent o-line if Okung/Carpenter were ever healthy, just re-signed Lynch, and an owner willing to do whatever he can to make players happy - I think Manning ends up in Seattle over Miami. I can see a 5 year back-loaded 75M contract with 30-40M guaranteed offered to Manning by Seattle, and I'm not sure that Miami can touch that.
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Peyton Manning? Seattle
Donovan McNabb?Living with Mom eating Chunky soup
Andrew Luck?Colts
RG3? Washington
Ryan Tannehill? Seattle
Going to Miami to break some of Marino's single season or single game records would be enticing though.
"Going from 4-12 to 6-10 isn't good enough. I believe we are going to be better than that. We're going to be a lot better than that." - Mike Holmgren (3/15/12)
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Matt Flynn- Seattle
Lots of cap room and Flynn gets thrown into open competition against Jackson for the starting QB spot.
Peyton Manning- Miami
They've got decent pieces for him to potentially get another ring.
Donovan McNabb- KC
Brought in along with a mid round rookie to challenge Cassel and Orton. Cut in preseason and rookie is third stringer.
Andrew Luck- Indy
Duh.
RG3- Washington
Snyder overpays for everything...including RG3. Manning won;t pick an organization with little going for it and in a division where he plays his brother twice a year.
Ryan Tannehill- Dallas
Jerry Jones makes the home state pick and finds a successor to Romo. Tannehill is able to learn on the bench for a year.
Last edited by CanadaDawg; 03/07/12 06:54 PM.
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Quote:
Donovan McNabb- KC
Brought in along with a mid round rookie to challenge Cassel and Orton. Cut in preseason and rookie is third stringer.
I feel Donovan McNabb is a WCO quarterback and won't do well otherwise.
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Donovan McNabb is a washed up WCO-QB who failed in his last 2 stops w/ WCO (Wash and Minny)
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