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Shall we start making predictions?

My guess is that Gordan gets picked in the 6th round by the Rams.

Al Davis still alive: Raiders in the 1st.

Reality: 'Skins in the 3rd.

I would say Browns in the 4th

Ok, I bet 7222 that he would get a 2nd round offer. That was before he posted a 4.5 40 and then pulled a hammy. This guy now reminds me more of Devier Posey who went in the 3rd round. I now agree with the majority that he will get a 3rd round offer and it won't be the Browns. Honestly, this guy doesn't seem like a football player like Hines Ward. He seems like a diva looking to cash in on a few measurables. I would offer a 3rd or 4th but ultimately he won't be a Brown.

Josh Gordon tries to put marijuana suspension behind him
Posted by Darin Gantt on July 11, 2012, 8:04 AM EDT
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By nature, if you’re in the Supplemental Draft, there’s a problem.

For Josh Gordon, the star of this year’s slow-time selection meeting, the issue was self-inflicted, and the hardest part was watching his Baylor teammates have one of the best seasons in school history without him.

A failed marijuana test led to the suspension that cost Gordon his 2011 campaign, which saw the Bears win 10 games and the Alamo Bowl while quarterback Robert Griffin III won the Heisman.

“Leaving Baylor was the hardest thing,” Gordon told John McClain of the Houston Chronicle. “I’d get up in the morning, turn on ESPN, and there they were, some of my best friends doing such great things. They did exactly what we believed we were capable of doing when I was there.

“Everything I thought I had, everything in front of me, just went down the drain. I didn’t want to stop chasing my dream, so I transferred, sat out the season and worked as hard as I could to start from scratch.”

Gordon’s sophomore season was a productive one, but he made headlines when he and a teammate were arrested after falling asleep in a Taco Bell drive-in line. Police found marijuana in the car, and defensive end Willie Jefferson was kicked off the team when it was his second violation. Gordon was charged with misdemeanor possession, though it was later dropped.

That wasn’t enough of a lesson for Gordon, however, as he was suspended indefinitely last July for what he admitted was a failed marijuana test.

“It was against school policy, of course, and I was [suspended] in the summer,” Gordon said. “I’ve definitely put that part of my life behind me. I don’t plan to ever go back there. It was a difficult time, but I learned from it, and I’ve moved on.”

Weighing whether he’s changed or not is the challenge for the teams investigating him. Scouts do skeleton work on underclassmen during the regular year, leaving them all playing catch-up for prospects when they enter the Supplemental Draft.

“They [scouts] want to know what kind of character guy I am,” Gordon said. “They want to know if I can be trusted. They want to know if I’m going to be a guy that always has off-the-field issues. I want to make it clear I’m not going to be that guy.

“I know how much heartache it caused my family, how much strain it put on me and my family. I don’t plan to ever go back there again.”

Whether NFL teams trust that word will largely determine how high he’s chosen, and what kind of chance he gets to back the words up. web page

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Gordon’s sophomore season was a productive one, but he made headlines when he and a teammate were arrested after falling asleep in a Taco Bell drive-in line.

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lol

That was a Harold and Kumar taco run lol

Heck, I've almost fallen asleep in a Taco Bell drive-thru lane. That's the slowest outfit in the world.

Overnight, Gordon goes from obscurity to top prize of supplemental draft
By Jason La Canfora | CBS Sports NFL Insider
July 11, 2012http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/19561276/overnight-gordon-goes-from-obscurity-to-top-prize-of-supplemental-draft

Only a few days ago, Josh Gordon was a relative unknown, a talented but raw college football player who hadn't played a down since 2010. Now, suddenly, he is the focus of the entire NFL world, in one of the rare dormant periods in the constant pro football news cycle.

Gordon, who left Baylor after being suspended indefinitely and transferred to Utah but never played a game for the Utes, is likely the only player who will be selected Thursday in the supplemental draft, and, given his collection of size, speed and gifts, he just might go as high as the second round.

That would be a rarity in and of itself, and interested teams have been scrambling for a week or so to gather film, information and background on the prospect after the league announced he was eligible for the draft only several days ago.

So, just that quickly, he has gone from possible 2013 draft prospect to focal point for organizations in the here and now. Trust me, there are many teams very interested, including the new employer of his old college quarterback, Robert Griffin III, who is longing for a reunion with his former teammate.

Around 20 teams were represented at Gordon's workout at the Texans facility on Tuesday, where he ran in the low 4.5s in the 40-yard dash -- plenty respectable given his height and weight (6-foot-3, 224 pounds). He has limited college experience and will need help learning routes and fine-tuning his precision, but some scouts I've talked to have thrown around possible comparisons to A.J. Green. They believe, had Gordon stayed at Baylor after a marijuana-related arrest and played with RG3, he would have had top-10 potential.

For Gordon, that's heady stuff.

"The last 10 days have definitely been really unbelievable," he said at the end of a long Tuesday.

You see, the last time he played competitive football, he was a sophomore, and RG3 was deep in his learning curve and not the Heisman-winning, second-overall selection we see before us now. But other than a few teams negotiating with their franchise-tagged players, there isn't a lot of action around the league these days.

Thus, no shortage of pro or college scouting directors showed up to watch Gordon up close, most of them for the first time, and many of those teams scheduled individual meetings with him either Monday or Tuesday. Several sources called the workout impressive, with Gordon pressing on with drills despite pulling his left quad during his second attempt at the 40.

"I definitely didn't perform as good as I would have liked," Gordon said, "and looking back on it, maybe I should have stretched a little more, but I was glad I got through the receiving drills and I worked as hard as I could."

Some talent evaluators I spoke with had a third- or fourth-round grade on him, but others believe the amount of interest, the potential of the prospect, and the fairly widespread need at his position will propel him to get selected by the second round (a year ago, Terrelle Pryor had a fifth-round grade from many teams -- and went in the third). Among those interested, according to team and league sources, are the Browns, Redskins, Cowboys, Eagles, Colts, Dolphins, Panthers, Saints, Chiefs and 49ers.

The Redskins are particularly intriguing because of the RG3 connection and their lust for more weapons for him. Team sources said Griffin has been actively lobbying the front office and owner Dan Snyder for Gordon. Snyder will do whatever he can for his star players; he has a history of listening to them and the Redskins have employed the supplemental draft in the past. Griffin has also remained in contact with Gordon, and while the Redskins already lack a first-round pick from 2013 in the trade with St. Louis to acquire RG3, sacrificing another high 2013 pick to acquire a potential impact player now is hardly out of character.

The Browns are also high on him, according to a team source, and have spent a lot of time and energy around the Baylor program in recent years. They know it well. They worked hard on a trade for RG3 before losing out to Washington. They drafted Baylor tackle Phil Taylor in the first round in 2011. They coveted Baylor receiver Kendall Wright this year; they planned to take him with their second pick in the first round and quarterback Brandon Weeden in the second round. But when Wright was picked sooner, Cleveland ended up taking Weeden at No. 22.

Gordon has better physical gifts than Wright, and few teams are as needy for help in the passing game as the Browns.

The Cowboys are notable as well, as they have been aware of the Houston native for a while, sources said. Also consider that Jerry Jones is never afraid of being bold or going out on a limb for something he believes in. So pouncing on Gordon early wouldn't be a shock. (Doesn't something like this, particularly when always picking late in rounds, seem like something Bill Belichick might explore, too?)

The supplemental draft order will be determined Thursday morning utilizing a weighted lottery in which teams that won six games or fewer last season have the best odds of getting the highest selection order (the Colts, for instance, would have 32 balls in the pot via having the first overall draft pick back in April). Once an order for those teams is established, then the remaining non-playoff teams from the 2011 season have a lottery for the next set of places, and finally a lottery for the 12 playoff teams rounds out the order. Teams submit ahead of time the highest round in which they would be willing to part with a 2013 pick for an available player in the supplemental draft.

A process that takes months leading to the annual spring draft gets condensed into mere days for young men like Gordon. There's not as much prep time, but as he noted, the process isn't as dragged out. So in some ways, this is less mentally and physically taxing as the series of meetings and workouts leading up to the entry draft.

Gordon is just excited to be able to reconnect with the game he loves, and the prospect of playing football anywhere has him overjoyed. Sure, getting back together with RG3 would be special.

"I actually just got off the phone with him before I spoke to you," Gordon said late Tuesday night. "That would be pretty crazy. It would be, if not the best thing for me, then certainly at least a dream come true. But I guess the odds of that are 1 in 32."

But he's anything but picky about the situation.

"I'm more than grateful just to have the opportunity to play for anyone who would pick me, or if that didn't work out, anyone who would sign me as [an undrafted] free agent," Gordon said. "I'm more than grateful for a chance."

Gordon is polite and modest, but he won't have to worry about free agency. He's a day away from embarking on a pro career.

Gordon left Baylor, a Baptist school, following his suspension in July 2011, but then had to sit out a year after transferring to Utah, which meant paying for his own schooling and training. He was pursuing a hardship transfer waiver to return home and enroll at the University of Houston for the 2012 season, but would have likely needed online courses to qualify, and might have had to miss games through delays even if he were able to get in the school.

He wavered through late June. "I really didn't make up my mind until two days before the deadline to apply [to the supplemental draft]," he said, but given all the uncertainty of his eligibility and coming from a humble background and with the NFL beckoning now, the decision was made.

Gordon, who caught 42 passes for 714 yards and seven touchdowns as a sophomore, has learned from his mistakes, and matured from his football and collegiate odyssey. In a league of second chances, he more than merits his first look, and players with far greater transgressions have been given repeated opportunities. (As an indication that marijuana is not a part of his life, Gordon recently passed a drug test, the results of which he distributed to NFL teams on Tuesday according to a club official who attended his workout).

In this day and age, with the proliferation of the passing game, bypass size and speed at your own peril (remember how much Atlanta parted with to move up into Cleveland's spot and take Julio Jones in 2011). All the movement at the top of the 2012 draft showed the wheeling-and-dealing mentality that has taken hold with so much cost certainty on draft picks in the new CBA, and the opportunity to secure a potential first-round talent, now, at a discount, will loom in the minds of many a front office.

I fully expect multiple teams to put in selections for him, quite possibly in the second round. The results of Tuesday morning's lottery could end up being pivotal for a certain franchise, and the future development of a raw but extremely talented receiver.

Well, since I don't think he goes before the 4th, I say he goes to Us at #4.

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Among those interested, according to team and league sources, are the Browns, Redskins, Cowboys, Eagles, Colts, Dolphins, Panthers, Saints, Chiefs and 49ers.

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So 5 of the 10 teams listed all have the chance to win the top pick (6 wins or fewer in 2011) of round priority. i wonder if they get the same pick in every round. I also expect the Bills would be up there. If the Cowboys, Eagles, Saints, Chiefs, or 49ers want him, they'll have to put in a 2nd.

As it goes on, they'll have to go with a first. I think we will offer a 2nd rounder. We have a need and the latest press is we are 32 in the power rankings.


Press coverage does matter and does influence how people, companies, teams react.


He will be behind, no doubt, but if we can't catch him up by game 4, we have a lame staff.


You assign somebody to him and you drill it in.



That is if we like him, and depends on the official draft order. He won't go lower than the 3rd and I wouldn't doubt some team who plans to draft late will offer a 2nd in the hopes of getting him above a slew of teams who will offer up a 3rd rounder.

I suppose you could be right, but 4th??


I understand the hype machine can influence things.....as far as order...we will be in the high group, and I think most of the high group who wants him will offer a 3rd. My worry(if we want him) is a team out of the next grouping of teams will offer a 2nd.


Yep....I want a receiver, and 6'4", 225 lbs players who run 4.5 40's are pretty rare. That 4.52 forty is less than some might have thought or hoped, but that is still plenty fast....it isn't slow by any means.

I haven't followed this supplemental draft at all -- so take the words with a grain of salt.

I do know that every supplemental draft there is a prospect where the media/fans put rank him at least 2 rounds higher than any team. I remember discussions of Manuel Wright with our 2nd, and Ahmad Brooks in the first.

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I suppose you could be right, but 4th??

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It's just a guess,, someone may think he's the next Jerry Rice and put up a `1st for all I know..

Just read this:

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Robert Griffin III wants Washington Redskins to land former Baylor teammate Josh Gordon; Cleveland Browns, familiar with Baylor, very interested
Published: Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 5:32 PM Updated: Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 5:37 PM
Mike Peticca, The Plain Dealer By Mike Peticca, The Plain Dealer
josh-gordon.jpgAssociated PressJosh Gordon caught 42 passes for 714 yards and seven touchdowns for Baylor in 2010, but missed the 2011 season after being suspended following a marijuana-related arrest.


CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The NFL knows how to stay in the news.

Now, in the short lull between "Organized Team Activities" and the start of training camps late this month, the league has orchestrated the elevation of former Baylor wide receiver Josh Gordon from relative unknown to perceived future superstar.

Gordon is the focal point of Thursday's supplemental draft.

Plain Dealer Browns beat writer Mary Kay Cabot writes in her report about Gordon and the supplemental draft:

The draft is almost like a silent auction, with teams submitting bids based on the pick they’re willing to sacrifice in the 2013 draft. The order within rounds is determined by how teams fared last season.

Only the team that acquires Gordon will surrender the draft pick that it bids.

Gordon caught one pass at Baylor in 2009. Then, in 2010, he emerged behind Kendall Wright as quarterback Robert Griffin III's second favorite receiver, catching 42 passes for 714 yards and seven touchdowns.

Gordon didn't play last season. Following a marijuana arrest, he was suspended by Baylor coach Art Briles. Gordon transferred to Utah, where he sat out the season because of NCAA transfer rules. Now, instead of playing for Utah this season, Gordon has declared for the supplemental draft.

Griffin was selected by the Washington Redskins with the second overall pick in April's draft. Wright, by the way, was also picked in the first round, at No. 20 overall by the Tennessee Titans.

Jason La Canfora writes for CBSSports.com about Gordon becoming the top player available in the supplemental draft, and about the teams -- including the Redskins and Cleveland Browns -- that seem to be most interested in him:

Among those interested, according to team and league sources, are the Browns, Redskins, Cowboys, Eagles, Colts, Dolphins, Panthers, Saints, Chiefs and 49ers.

The Redskins are particularly intriguing because of the RG3 connection and their lust for more weapons for him. Team sources said Griffin has been actively lobbying the front office and owner Dan Snyder for Gordon. Snyder will do whatever he can for his star players; he has a history of listening to them and the Redskins have employed the supplemental draft in the past. Griffin has also remained in contact with Gordon, and while the Redskins already lack a first-round pick from 2013 in the trade with St. Louis to acquire RG3, sacrificing another high 2013 pick to acquire a potential impact player now is hardly out of character.

The Browns are also high on him, according to a team source, and have spent a lot of time and energy around the Baylor program in recent years. They know it well. They worked hard on a trade for RG3 before losing out to Washington. They drafted Baylor tackle Phil Taylor in the first round in 2011. They coveted Baylor receiver Kendall Wright this year; they planned to take him with their second pick in the first round and quarterback Brandon Weeden in the second round. But when Wright was picked sooner, Cleveland ended up taking Weeden at No. 22.

Gordon has better physical gifts than Wright, and few teams are as needy for help in the passing game as the Browns.


Should the Browns bid a draft pick, and for what round, to try to acquire Gordon?

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Report: Josh Gordon may be "overhyped"

Posted by Mike Florio on July 11, 2012, 6:02 PM EDT

We asked the question on Tuesday, and a pair of unnamed league sources (via Albert Breer of NFL Network) answered it on Wednesday.

Is former Baylor receiver Josh Gordon being overhyped?

Breer says that an unnamed executive and an unnamed scout used the same word to describe Gordon: “Overhyped.” They also said he would have gone somewhere between round five and round seven in the April draft, if he’d been part of the process then.

Of course, part of the process now is the same as part of the process then. Teams that want to see someone burn a higher pick than they should will talk a guy up. Teams that want to see the guy still there at the round where they may try to get him will say things like, “He’s overhyped.”

The wild-card for many teams is the owner. If he becomes smitten with a player, he may apply pressure to the front office to make a move prematurely.

And so no one ever tells the whole truth about the draft. Actually, there’s an even greater incentive to misdirect competitors in the supplemental draft, since it removes a pick from the process for the following April, pushing the pool of available players another step closer to the awaiting arms of the other 31 teams.

I doubt he would have gone that low, so some team is trying to drop the bids.


His skill set doesn't go 6th round.



Just saying.

His skill set doesn't go sixth round, but look at some of the guys that were drafted in the fifth round or later in the April draft. Criner, Toon, Childs, McNutt, and Streeter are all guys that are talented and plummeted. Gordon has more red flags than most guys and a similar skill set. I wouldn't take him before the fifth round, which is where he deserves to go based on his measurables, production, and character.

Doesn't this guy sound a lot like Carlton Mitchell coming out of USF?

Mitchell - 6'3", 215lbs, 10 5/8" hands, 4.49 speed, 122" broad jump
Final Year of College Football - 40 catches, 706 yards, 4 TDs

Gordon - 6'3", 220lbs, 10" hands, 4.52 speed, 121" broad jump
Final Year of College Football - 42 catches, 714 yards, 7 TDs

Mitchell was drafted in the sixth round and to my knowledge didn't have the character red flags that Gordon does.

I guess I'm missing something? I've never seen the kid play but this appears to be one of those perfect hype storms where the kid is literally the only thing going on football wise right now with the NFL.

Feels too much like overhype to me.

That looks like a good call, heldawg.

"I'm supposed to get excited about... CarltonMITCHELL!?!?!"

You're probably right. In the end i don't really care if we draft him or not.

I agree about the hype and how it can be blown out of proportion. Supply and demand drives that, and here we have short supply and apparently some demand.

The odd thing is teams wouldn't be trying to drive up the cost. At least I wouldn't think so.

As I said at the beginning, all of what I am saying is if he checks out in the minds of the guys who went to see him and talk to him. If they feel he is worth a 2nd rounder, then bid the 2nd rounder. It makes no sense to grade the guy a 2nd or 3rd round talent, then offer a 5th. Why bother? That is all I am advocating here. I am not on this guys bandwagon and am not saying we should. As with many, I've never seen the guy and even if I had, would my opinion really matter?? It's all about the opinion of Heck and Homie.

I hope we land him. I see a very intriguing skill set. You just can't teach size, speed and hands combination but you can teach him how to run his routes. Kid has the potential to be a terrific counterpart to Little. I still think we can get him with a 4th but heckert has never been afraid to go get his man. He went up and got Richardson, took Weeden earlier than projected, took Hughes and Benjamin in the 3rd and 4th when they probably were 6th rounders at best.

I would not be surprised to see a 3rd given up today even though i think 4th.

I love Cleveland media. Already posting articles asking if the redskins will once again beat them out for the player they want. Smh.

So "doing something" means wasting picks on players? Glad you're not the GM.

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Just read that NFL.com's Daniel Jeremiah think's the Browns will get him for a 3rd round selection. That would be OK with me. We have to do SOMETHING to try to improve at wideout.

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We are doing something ... The same thing we have been doing for years and that is waiting for our current group to have a breakout year.
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No I can't get past his lack of production and lack of time on the field. Might as well just start signing every big tall WR that can run fast regardless of football skills.

Lets just start wasting valuable draft picks on guys that NO ONE on this board outside of Deep Threat as heard of before this hype machine started bc one unnamed scout source said he may have, could have, might etc... had AJ Green LIKE potential had he stayed in college and played with RG3. Excuse me if this sounds like Bill Cowher's house in strongsville scenario set up by his agent. No thanks on this unproven kid with character concerns. You are guys are getting desperate and impatient.

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For Josh Gordon, the star of this year’s slow-time selection meeting, the issue was self-inflicted, and the hardest part was watching his Baylor teammates have one of the best seasons in school history without him.

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This doesn't look real good... Now if it read the team fell apart with out you. Then imo it would look like you have a great ability.

Seems to me .. this guy didn't do that much to help his team...that's just how I read into it.

Isn't this draft being held today?

yes 1:00pm