Browns take Gordon in Supplemental Draft Posted 40 minutes ago
The Cleveland Browns selected wide receiver Josh Gordon in the 2012 NFL Supplemental Draft, the team announced Thursday afternoon.
The Cleveland Browns today selected wide receiver Josh Gordon in the second round of the 2012 NFL Supplemental Draft. As a result the team will forgo its second round choice during the 2013 NFL Draft. Gordon was a two-year letterman at Baylor University (2009-10), where he totaled 43 career receptions for 721 yards and seven touchdowns. As a sophomore in 2010, he caught 42 passes for 714 yards and a team-high seven touchdowns. His yardage total ranked second on the squad, while his 17.0-yard-average-per reception was first. Gordon is the first player selected by the Browns in the Supplemental Draft since the team selected Bernie Kosar with the top pick in 1985.
“We are excited to add Josh Gordon to our football team,” said Browns Head Coach Pat Shurmur. “I feel as though he possesses the skill and ability to be an outstanding player in this league. He is an excellent addition to our 2012 rookie class, and I am looking forward to working with him and our entire team in a couple of weeks.”
JOSH GORDON Wide Receiver Height: 6-3 Weight: 225 College: Baylor Birthdate: April 13, 1991 How Acquired: D2 (Sup.) – ‘12 Year with Browns: Rookie Year in NFL: Rookie
Career Transactions: Originally acquired by Cleveland with a second round selection in the 2012 NFL Supplemental Draft.
College: Attended the University of Utah in 2011 and sat out the season due to NCAA transfer rules… Two-year letterman at Baylor University (2009-10)… Appeared in 22 games with five starts… Totaled 43 career receptions for 721 yards and seven touchdowns… Led the Bears with seven receiving touchdowns and a 17.0 yards-per-catch average in 2010, while notching 42 receptions for 714 yards… Had a 94-yard touchdown reception from Robert Griffin III against Kansas, which was the longest reception in Baylor history and the fourth-longest in NCAA Division I-A in 2010… Appeared in nine games as a reserve and recorded one catch for seven yards as a true freshman in 2009… Majored in general studies.
Personal: Native of Houston, Texas, where he attended Lamar High School… Also played basketball and ran track… Was a high school and college teammate of defensive end Tracy Robertson who signed with the Houston Texans as an undrafted free agent this year.
Heckert is like the honey badger of value-based drafting.
He don't care.
The man is decisive, I'll give him that. He makes a plan, sets the price, and he sticks with his evaluation. Let's hope he knows what he's doing. Years from now, we can talk about how TJ Ward, T-Richardson, Weeden, Schwartz, Hughes, and Gordon were all great values where we took them. Right now, from the draftnik point of view, they were all reaches.
Quote: Browns use 2013 second-round pick to select ex-Baylor WR Josh Gordon Jul 12, 2012 -- 1:45pm Tony Grossi
By Tony Grossi
Showing unusual aggressiveness, the Browns forfeited their second-round pick in 2013 to select former Baylor wide receiver Josh Gordon in today’s NFL supplemental draft.
Gordon, 6-3 1/8 and 224 pounds, was suspended indefinitely by Baylor in for failing a test for marijuana. He transferred to Utah and sat out the 2011 season in anticipation of completing his college eligibility in 2012. *But financial pressures at home reportedly made him change his mind and he opted for the supplemental draft two days before the deadline.
The Browns spent a whole day with Gordon last week at their headquarters, a league source told ESPNCleveland.com. They had him take a physical and spent “a long time” discussing his issues. GM Tom Heckert came away convinced the issues were behind Gordon.
Before bidding on Gordon, the Browns had to sweat out the draft order, which was determined by a weighted lottery just 15 minutes before the draft at 1 p.m. They had to compete with the nine other teams that won six or fewer games last year.
The Browns luckily won the No. 2 pick in the order. Buffalo was No. 1. **According to ESPN’s Adam Schefter, no other team submitted a bid in the second round. Several league sources predicted before the draft that Gordon would be selected in the third round.
The Redskins, who have become the Browns’ nemesis in outbidding them previously for Robert Griffin III, Pierre Garcon and Josh Morgan, drew the No. 7 position. Griffin reportedly lobbied his new team to take Gordon. They shared one season together at Baylor in 2010, when Gordon had 42 catches for 714 yards and seven touchdowns.
The Browns “discovered” Gordon on game tape while scouting Griffin III and receiver Kendall Wright during and after the 2011 college season. Gordon is bigger and faster than Wright, whom the Browns considered taking at No. 22 this year. ***Tennessee swooped in and took Wright at No. 20. The Browns then drafted quarterback Brandon Weeden two picks later.
They also might have noticed Gordon on tape the year before when they scouted defensive tackle Phil Taylor, their first-round pick in the 2011 draft.
The Browns had two scouts at Gordon’s pro day workout on Tuesday. Gordon timed the 40-yard dash in 4.52 before pulling a quadriceps muscle. The Browns, and most other teams, considered the time impressive considering Gordon’s physical dimensions. Nobody as heavy as him ran a better 40 at the NFL combine.
Because he hasn’t played since 2010, and because he has missed the entire offseason of camps, Gordon will need time to work his way in. But a Browns source said they fully expect him to help them as a rookie.
Eventually, Gordon has the physical tools, and the hands, to be their new No. 1 receiver.
*- Financial pressures are a lot different than the "quitting the team" that was being put around regarding his leaving Utah. As was posted somewhere above, he wasn't on scholarship at Utah, I think by NCAA regulations.
**- This doesn't bother me. If they thought he was a good player they wanted to go and get, there's not a whole lot of difference between a second and a third. Is there a difference? Yes. But if you look at the players available from #20 - #80 in this past draft, the gap was not huge. I'm sure Heckert was bidding against teams he thought might put a pick in at the "end" of the second round, despite getting the good lottery draw.
***- They didn't "swoop" at all. They had the number 20 pick. It seemed obvious that the teams picking at 16, 17, 19, 20, 21, and 22 all would pick a WR early, so it should be no shocker that Wright (the third WR drafted) was taken at 20.
Quote: Its a joke around our house. If I bring home some ice cream, she'll ask "how did you know I was in the mood for ice cream?", and I answer "I'm physic". You kinda have to be there ...
[purple]I've been a HUGE fan of this guy for a long time. Just saw a few of his highlights yesterday. I mean I've been following this guy for almost a day now![/purple]
In all seriousness our WR corps was the worst in the NFL and we couldn't see second worst on the horizon. If this guy can develop into a true threat that means we have two threats on our roster now. Which is decent. And maybe we have Benjamin who may scare some teams into keeping one safety further than 10 yards from the LOS.
Little, Sheard and Taylor all had some off the field issues. Heckert also passed on guys that he obviously liked in Nick Fairley and Justin Blackmon. I think he has shown to have a good nose for BS.
I watched the kid in an interview this morning and he seemed pretty genuine. Watching his Baylor buddies in a bowl game really seemed to have hit home with him. Also smoking pot in college umm it aint that big of a deal. Finding a kid that didnt try pot would be much harder than finding one that did.
I think Norwood may be the big winner with adding this kid. Benjamin blah he cant catch a cold but Norwood runs really good underneath stuff and might be our wes welker type.
Quote: With the third pick of the 2013 NFL draft, the Cleveland Browns select David Amerson, CB North Carolina State University.
Im thinking LB
No way do we go LB playing a 4-3. The value just isn't there.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Quote: My only problem in picking up a guy with off the field problems, is motivation to do well..
You put a rookie on the Browns vs. a rookie on the Giants... which one will want to succeed more over time?
I think you can't instill a competitive gene in to someone. The overwhelming talent (even on the worst NFL teams) is enough to motivate anyone with a pulse.
These are the best football players in the world. Regardless of Gordon's natural gifts, imagine stepping in to practice and working against Joe Haden? Or running routes with Greg Little, who is just as physically imposing? How about stepping in to the weight room and watching Trent Richardson squat a house? As a competitor, if those things don't motivate you, the team and city are inconsequential.
Off the field problems don't always equate to a lack of motivation. In many cases, it can do the opposite. Gordon knows he's been given a second chance. Not only given a second chance but paired with Richardson and Weeden, two other high draft picks. He's been gifted an opportunity to break in with a young offense, on a team that lacks weapons at the WR position and in to an organization that has a strong community around it. It's best case scenario for someone like him.
It was a gamble but I think a calculated one. He has a ton of talent and comes across as being a very humble, well put together young man. Gordon strikes me as someone who learned his lesson, not someone who's acting like he learned his lesson. I'm sure when others hear him at his press conference, they will feel the same.
On Thursday, Cleveland Browns general manager Tom Heckert talked with the Cleveland media about selecting former Baylor University wide receiver Josh Gordon in the 2012 NFL Supplemental Draft.
The Cleveland Browns added depth and size to their wide receiver corps with the selection of former Baylor University wideout Josh Gordon in the second round of Thursday’s 2012 NFL Supplemental Draft
Gordon is a 6-foot-3, 225-pound wide receiver that ran a sub-4.6 second 40-yard dash during his recent Pro Day workout. However, he has not played since 2010 due to a suspension and transfer from Baylor to the University of Utah.
“It’s something that we really did our homework on,” Browns general manager Tom Heckert said of Gordon’s suspension in a conference call with the Cleveland media Thursday. “We brought the kid in here and I talked to a zillion guys, both at Baylor and Utah, and to be honest, I couldn’t find anyone to say one bad thing about the kid. I really enjoyed meeting with him. It’s something that’s out here. We felt good enough that he’s going to be a positive influence on our team.”
Gordon will be added to a Browns rookie class which already features quarterback Brandon Weeden, running back Trent Richardson and fellow wide receiver Travis Benjamin. By drafting Gordon, the Browns are continuing a process of building the offense, much like they did in 2010 and 2011 with the defense.
The first and second-round picks in 2010 and 2011 were on the defensive side of the ball. First, it was cornerback Joe Haden and safety T.J. Ward in 2010. Then, tackle Phil Taylor and end Jabaal Sheard were added to the line in 2011.
“We made a conscious effort in the last two drafts to make our defense better,” Heckert said. “From a stat perspective and in our mind, we think our defense got a lot better in those two years. Now, we’ve got to load it up on the offense. They’re young, but we think we’ve gotten a lot better on offense in one draft and add Josh into the mix. We think we’ve gotten a lot better in the last few months.”
Gordon spent two years at Baylor, where he caught 43 passes for 721 yards and seven touchdowns. During his sophomore season with the Bears, Gordon caught 42 passes for 714 yards and a team-best seven touchdowns. He ranked second on the team in total yardage and finished with a 17.0 yards-per-reception average.
By selecting Gordon Thursday, the Browns will not have their second-round pick in the 2013 NFL Draft.
“He’s a guy we obviously targeted and felt good about and we’re happy we had the chance to get him,” Heckert said. “I don’t know if it’s risky. That’s kind of where we thought he was as a player. We thought he’s a guy that could come in and be an eventual starter for us and make plays for us. Anytime you draft a guy, there’s always some risk involved, but we think we got a good football player.
“He can run, has got huge hands and long arms. He’s an impressive-looking kid, but there were some concerns about him. I drilled him pretty hard when I was with him and he didn’t back down. He told me everything I thought I needed to hear from him. He promised he was going to be a guy that we were going to love having in Cleveland. He seemed pretty fired up about being a Brown. When he left, he said he hoped we were the team that picked him.”
In their history, the Browns have now taken eight players in the Supplemental Draft.
In 1984, the team selected running back Kevin Mack (Clemson), linebacker Mike Johnson (Virginia Tech), tackle Tommy Robison (Texas A&M), linebacker Doug West (UCLA), quarterback John Bond (Mississippi State), and wide receiver/kick returner Gerald “Ice Cube” McNeil (Baylor) in the Supplemental Draft.
A year later, the Browns traded four draft picks, including first-rounders in both 1985 and 1986, to the Buffalo Bills for the right to draft quarterback Bernie Kosar from the University of Miami. Kosar grew up outside of Youngstown, in nearby Boardman, Ohio.
After Kosar and until Gordon, the Browns had not used a pick in the Supplemental Draft.
“Most years, there’s not a player of Josh’s caliber in the Supplemental Draft, so you don’t hear about it very much, but we look at it as a positive,” Heckert said. “We’re getting a really good football player and we’re getting him a year early. If he plays like we think he’s going to play, obviously, it will be a good decision.
On Thursday, Cleveland Browns general manager Tom Heckert talked with the Cleveland media about selecting former Baylor University wide receiver Josh Gordon in the 2012 NFL Supplemental Draft.
The Cleveland Browns added depth and size to their wide receiver corps with the selection of former Baylor University wideout Josh Gordon in the second round of Thursday’s 2012 NFL Supplemental Draft
Gordon is a 6-foot-3, 225-pound wide receiver that ran a sub-4.6 second 40-yard dash during his recent Pro Day workout. However, he has not played since 2010 due to a suspension and transfer from Baylor to the University of Utah.
“It’s something that we really did our homework on,” Browns general manager Tom Heckert said of Gordon’s suspension in a conference call with the Cleveland media Thursday. “We brought the kid in here and I talked to a zillion guys, both at Baylor and Utah, and to be honest, I couldn’t find anyone to say one bad thing about the kid. I really enjoyed meeting with him. It’s something that’s out here. We felt good enough that he’s going to be a positive influence on our team.”
Gordon will be added to a Browns rookie class which already features quarterback Brandon Weeden, running back Trent Richardson and fellow wide receiver Travis Benjamin. By drafting Gordon, the Browns are continuing a process of building the offense, much like they did in 2010 and 2011 with the defense.
The first and second-round picks in 2010 and 2011 were on the defensive side of the ball. First, it was cornerback Joe Haden and safety T.J. Ward in 2010. Then, tackle Phil Taylor and end Jabaal Sheard were added to the line in 2011.
“We made a conscious effort in the last two drafts to make our defense better,” Heckert said. “From a stat perspective and in our mind, we think our defense got a lot better in those two years. Now, we’ve got to load it up on the offense. They’re young, but we think we’ve gotten a lot better on offense in one draft and add Josh into the mix. We think we’ve gotten a lot better in the last few months.”
Gordon spent two years at Baylor, where he caught 43 passes for 721 yards and seven touchdowns. During his sophomore season with the Bears, Gordon caught 42 passes for 714 yards and a team-best seven touchdowns. He ranked second on the team in total yardage and finished with a 17.0 yards-per-reception average.
By selecting Gordon Thursday, the Browns will not have their second-round pick in the 2013 NFL Draft.
“He’s a guy we obviously targeted and felt good about and we’re happy we had the chance to get him,” Heckert said. “I don’t know if it’s risky. That’s kind of where we thought he was as a player. We thought he’s a guy that could come in and be an eventual starter for us and make plays for us. Anytime you draft a guy, there’s always some risk involved, but we think we got a good football player.
“He can run, has got huge hands and long arms. He’s an impressive-looking kid, but there were some concerns about him. I drilled him pretty hard when I was with him and he didn’t back down. He told me everything I thought I needed to hear from him. He promised he was going to be a guy that we were going to love having in Cleveland. He seemed pretty fired up about being a Brown. When he left, he said he hoped we were the team that picked him.”
In their history, the Browns have now taken eight players in the Supplemental Draft.
In 1984, the team selected running back Kevin Mack (Clemson), linebacker Mike Johnson (Virginia Tech), tackle Tommy Robison (Texas A&M), linebacker Doug West (UCLA), quarterback John Bond (Mississippi State), and wide receiver/kick returner Gerald “Ice Cube” McNeil (Baylor) in the Supplemental Draft.
A year later, the Browns traded four draft picks, including first-rounders in both 1985 and 1986, to the Buffalo Bills for the right to draft quarterback Bernie Kosar from the University of Miami. Kosar grew up outside of Youngstown, in nearby Boardman, Ohio.
After Kosar and until Gordon, the Browns had not used a pick in the Supplemental Draft.
“Most years, there’s not a player of Josh’s caliber in the Supplemental Draft, so you don’t hear about it very much, but we look at it as a positive,” Heckert said. “We’re getting a really good football player and we’re getting him a year early. If he plays like we think he’s going to play, obviously, it will be a good decision.”
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
The National Football League held a draft of United States Football League and Canadian Football League players on June 5, 1984. In an attempt to head off a bidding war in its own ranks for USFL and CFL players. NFL teams chose 84 players from 224 available during the three-round selection meeting. The draft was for players who would have been eligible for the regular 1984 NFL draft, but who had already signed a contract with either a team from the USFL or CFL prior to the regular 1984 draft.
I'd say the Browns did pretty well that draft. Only really questionable move was drafting Ice Cube ahead of Gary Clark. Not that Ice Cube wasn't good.
First round
Pick # NFL Team Player Position Pro Team College 1 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Steve Young QB Los Angeles Express BYU 2 Houston Oilers Mike Rozier RB Pittsburgh Maulers Nebraska 3 New York Giants Gary Zimmerman G Los Angeles Express Oregon 4 Philadelphia Eagles Reggie White DE Memphis Showboats Tennessee 5 Kansas City Chiefs Mark Adickes OT Los Angeles Express Baylor 6 San Diego Chargers Lee Williams DE Los Angeles Express Bethune-Cookman 7 Cincinnati Bengals Wayne Peace QB Tampa Bay Bandits Florida 8 Indianapolis Colts Paul Bergmann TE Jacksonville Bulls UCLA 9 Atlanta Falcons Joey Jones WR Birmingham Stallions Alabama 10 New York Jets Ken Hobart QB Denver Gold Idaho 11 Cleveland Browns(from Chicago Bears) Kevin Mack RB Los Angeles Express Clemson 12 Green Bay Packers Buford Jordan RB New Orleans Breakers McNeese State 13 Minnesota Vikings Allanda Smith CB Los Angeles Express TCU 14 Buffalo Bills Dwight Drane DB Los Angeles Express Oklahoma 15 New Orleans Saints Vaughan Johnson LB Jacksonville Bulls North Carolina State 16 New England Patriots Ricky Sanders WR Houston Gamblers Southwest Texas State 17 St. Louis Cardinals Mike Ruether C Los Angeles Express Texas 18 Cleveland Browns Mike Johnson LB Philadelphia Stars Virginia Tech 19 Denver Broncos Freddie Gilbert DE New Jersey Generals Georgia 20 Detroit Lions Alphonso Williams WR Oklahoma Outlaws Nevada-Reno 21 Los Angeles Rams William Fuller DE Philadelphia Stars North Carolina 22 Seattle Seahawks Gordon Hudson TE Los Angeles Express BYU 23 Pittsburgh Steelers Duane Gunn WR Los Angeles Express Indiana 24 San Francisco 49ers Derrick Crawford WR Memphis Showboats Memphis State 25 Dallas Cowboys Todd Fowler TE-RB Houston Gamblers Stephen F. Austin 26 Miami Dolphins Danny Knight WR New Jersey Generals Mississippi State 27 Washington Redskins Tony Zendejas K Los Angeles Express Nevada-Reno 28 Los Angeles Raiders Christopher Woods WR Edmonton Eskimos CFL Auburn
I just thought ...... we could have 3 "Joshes" at WR this season .....
Josh Cribbs, Josh Cooper, and Josh Gordon.
That ain't just joshing around ......
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
For those of you more than a couple years younger than me...
Quote: Gerald McNeil (born March 27, 1962 in Frankfurt, Germany) is a former professional American football player. He was a wide receiver who often returned punts and kickoffs. McNeil's small stature of 5 ft 7 in (1.70 m) and 145 lb (65.8 kg) made him difficult to grab hold of and tackle and led to his nickname "The Ice Cube". McNeil attended Baylor University, where he set several reception records.
I doubt we see another NFL player under 150# make a 53-man roster. I think Wansley was probably close, but he'd always get cut before the season started.
For comparison's sake, Sproles is listed as 5'6", 190#.
Quote: Mitchell putting up these numbers as a senior and Gordon posting similar numbers in essentially his first year playing college ball must count for something, right?
Mitchell was a junior when he declared.
You are correct. Mitchell came out as a junior and Gordon did play the year before, got in quite a few games breifly and only had 1 catch... he did play special teams.
I think the most telling factor behind the similarities between Mitchell's numbers and Gordon's numbers being so similar is that Mitchell was clearly the #1 go-to target on the South Florida team... and Gordon was the #2 target behind Kendall Wright, who is pretty good. Gordon had 240 fewer yards than Wright but the same number of touchdowns.. the two accounted for 14 of the teams 22 passing TDs......
South Florida, in Mitchell's 700+ yard season also threw for 1000 yards less than Baylor did in Gordon's 700+ yard season.. There are a lot of variables... far too many to say "The numbers were the same, therefore their NFL production will be the same."
J/C.....was away for the afternoon on a rainy day....I see a 2nd rounder was used and it was us.
I like it. Big kid, fast enough, and it looks to be good hands. The talk the last few months was how our receivers sucked.
At least we have a FO willing to be proactive.
I don't know if the guy will pan out or not, but I have a feeling he will. He has the measurable's, he has been humbled in past....and I think he means it when he was talking about never going back there.
Now, it's get him up to speed. Stick Nolan Cromwell on him. Nolan was a heck of a player. Played QB and safety, so he understands route running.
I don't think the kid is as far behind as some think. He can be coached up....at least to the point he breaks the line-up and catches 40 or so balls this year.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Intresting reading all these responces on the selection of Gordon...WR with a second round,
Browns didnt sit on thier hands,there werent scared to do something to try to improve our team, adding a WR a postions 99.9% of Browns fans cried about the lack of selectons on draft day April wasnt that long ago, remember the cring, the comments of the FO dosent DO anything...Well they did and who care about it beng a second round, alot can happen between now & April 2013, maybe our second isnt a top 30 something pick maybe its a late 40 or even a 50 something pick,
I feel better knowing the browns did something...right or wrong only time will tell, but thats with all our picks, evey pick in the draft is time will tell, I'd be more upset if we did nothing....Can we emagion all the cring if we didnt pick him or waited and somebody else would have selected him in the late 2nd, oh man all the cring of our FO dosnt do anything to improve the WR position, well i'm one glad our front office took a chance to get a wr with some up side, only time will tell if this move pays off, some moves do other moves dont.
Greaat job FO, Well done Heckart......doing nothing you never get better, taking a chanc atleast you give yourself a chance.
Quote: Its a joke around our house. If I bring home some ice cream, she'll ask "how did you know I was in the mood for ice cream?", and I answer "I'm physic". You kinda have to be there ...
Anyhoo, yes we give up next years 2nd rounder.
I have STP
I have ESPn
Mourg - I have never smoked pot nor even had a cigarette.
I projected 6th round. Thought a 4th would be needed to make sure that we got him. Guess I was way wrong. It would be really interesting to know what (if any) the other bids were. Even if they don't get associated with teams. No way I can see the NFL releasing that kind of information.
Am I perfect? No Am I trying to be a better person? Also no
They don't release it, but we are sharp enough to know other 2nd rounders where offered. The press is too. There were several 2nd round bids because I'd bet the ranch there were a BUNCH of 3rd round bids.....like all that didn't bid 2nd round.
This was always a 2nd round bid if you were serious about picking the guy up. Buffalo had the first pick, we had the second. I am just glad they are pretty good at receiver with some up and coming players and didn't bid a 2nd as well..
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Love the pick up - is a 2nd a bit high? maybe.... but if this guy was as good as Wright is (as I've read when he played at Baylor) then I'm 100% fine with the pick... I don't know a ton about the kid, but for the most part like what I've read.... I'm hoping, as others have stated, that our FO can evaluate talent... I do think the draft this year feels like we've reached all over the place, but I like the fact that Heckert trusts his evaluation skills and goes and gets the player he wants... This year should be pretty exciting. I just hope we can get everyone signed and in camp on time!
Quote: They don't release it, but we are sharp enough to know other 2nd rounders where offered. The press is too. There were several 2nd round bids because I'd bet the ranch there were a BUNCH of 3rd round bids.....like all that didn't bid 2nd round.
This was always a 2nd round bid if you were serious about picking the guy up. Buffalo had the first pick, we had the second. I am just glad they are pretty good at receiver with some up and coming players and didn't bid a 2nd as well..
I gotta admit, you hit the head on the nail this time.. you called this
#GMSTRONG
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I like the makeup of this team although the youth and inexperience will definitely show throughout the year.
This is a big powerful offensive line that has a mean streak and we just added the RT that completely owned all those stud OLB's and DE's at the senior bowl while playing RT. We also added the Miller kid and have some depth for a change as well. They fit this scheme well.
Mr. Ordinary Trent Richardson has the 3 qualities I most admire in a RB. Balance, vision and power, he has other qualities but if you have those 3 good things will always happen.
Weeden is a fantastic pure passer. He may not be able to walk and chew gum but he can stand in one spot and throw as good as anyone you will see. Now can he throw when forced to move off the spot? Can he read a defense while dropping back? lots of questions here but he can sling that rock.
Receivers has completely changed. Little and Gordon are very big, very fast and very physical. Gordon is more of the deep threat and Little is more of the quick slant run after catch guy. Then you have Norwood who is terrific in running the underneath routes. Benjamin and his 4.2 speed is a major plus and it would be even greater if he could actually catch the ball.
TE is solid. You have a little bit of everything. Everyone questions this group but these guys have some skills when not being Colted.
I see enough talent to produce a little excitement and hope. I would love to be able to go to camp this year. It is a very exciting time. Who knows what will happen, this is a passing league and there just arent that many QBs worth a damn. I am not a Weeden fan but I think he has a legit chance to be the #2 QB in this division by season end. Big reason for that is that Dalton and Flacco suck.
I like your optimism. I agree with your assessment of Richardson and the improved WR corps as of today. However, we'll be looking to draft another QB in Round 1 by 2014 ... JMO of course
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