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I understand what you "think".
But if you honestly feel you were misled, not given a fair shot here and lied to about getting a fair shot to compete for the starting job this year.........
Would you really trust your superiors? Would you rather be here wroking for people you no longer trust, or get a fresh start elsewhere?
To me, a lot of this has to do with how Colt feels about how he has been treated. And if I were him, I'd probably prefer a frsh start somewhere else.
Once this FO has shown he's obviously not going to get a shot here, why would he want to stay here?
Please pardon the old expression, but he was never promised a rose garden here.
He'll be fine, but he needs to get his head around it and just do what is asked of him.
My Son went threw a similar thing this past spring with his College baseball team in being demoted from starter to the bullpen. It's a tough thing to go threw for any young man who has always been the best on his team trough high school.
Once he excepted his fate he was fine and he was committed to seeing threw what he started.
Chances are pretty good in this League that a # 2 QB will still get some starts.
I don't know that he will get a better opportunity elsewhere either.
I don't think that he has the word quit in his constitution.
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May need an extra CB for our first four games when the news becomes official in a few minutes.
crap...just saw
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May need an extra CB for our first four games when the news becomes official in a few minutes.
crap...just saw
I saw that grossi's running with it, but wasn't this shot down a week or two ago with the guys admitting he 'just wanted to see the power of twitter'?
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May need an extra CB for our first four games when the news becomes official in a few minutes.
crap...just saw
I saw that grossi's running with it, but wasn't this shot down a week or two ago with the guys admitting he 'just wanted to see the power of twitter'?
it was over this past weekend and yes the guy admitted it was a false rumor.
unless there is something new here, Grossi just hit an alltime low (yes, even considering the lerner comments):
http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&post_id=2901
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May need an extra CB for our first four games when the news becomes official in a few minutes.
crap...just saw
I saw that grossi's running with it, but wasn't this shot down a week or two ago with the guys admitting he 'just wanted to see the power of twitter'?
it was over this past weekend and yes the guy admitted it was a false rumor.
unless there is something new here, Grossi just hit an alltime low (yes, even considering the lerner comments):
http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&post_id=2901
I guess as of now, we don't know exactly what is going on................but, in light of what MIGHT be happening, is anyone surprised the twitter isn't allowed as a source?
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I guess as of now, we don't know exactly what is going on................but, in light of what MIGHT be happening, is anyone surprised the twitter isn't allowed as a source?
well, to be fair, the only twitter posts people want allowed are those from journalists that use it to post some of their stories (like Grossi, Windhorst, etc.).
this rumor was started by some random guy with no credentials (now, it might have real legs, but let's wait and see)
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Just like when Montana thought he hadn't been treated fairly he moved on to KC. If the same holds true for Colts feelings, he'll want to move on too.
There is no analogy what-so-ever that works between what happened between Montana and Young with what is going on between Weeden and McCoy... none, zilch, nada.
I remain convinced that the best thing for the Browns is to keep McCoy for reasons I've enumerated many times.. better, younger, greater upside, greater potential trade value, cheaper.... and the best thing for McCoy is stay in Cleveland this year, improve his skills and see if he gets a shot due to injury.... If Weeden goes down, even if its just for a game or 2 and McCoy comes in and looks pretty good, his trade value goes up exponentially and his opportunity to go compete for the starting job elsewhere goes with it. Leaving now he is not going to get to compete for the starting job anywhere. I hope he realizes that.
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I guess as of now, we don't know exactly what is going on................but, in light of what MIGHT be happening, is anyone surprised the twitter isn't allowed as a source?
I still don't understand the big deal. Even if this news or any news comes out to not be true, is it that big of a deal?
I mean, true or not, people are going to talk about it.
Not to mention, as it has been mentioned in the previous post, guys like Schefter, King, Mortensen, Clayton... Those guys don't post rumors. They post news. When they tweet something, it's true. It would be the same as posting their article from the website.
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Yeah........kinda like when Harry Reid says he got an anonymous phone call that Romney hasn't paid his taxes in the last 10 years I guess.
All of a sudden, the onus is on Romney.
I still want affirmation that this is true.......(haden), and so far all I can make out for sure is Grossi is the one reporting it, from an anonymous sourced, and everyone else is running with it.
LIke I said - we'll find out. If true, I'm sad, sad for Haden, sad for the Browns, and a bit ticked.
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I guess as of now, we don't know exactly what is going on................but, in light of what MIGHT be happening, is anyone surprised the twitter isn't allowed as a source?
I'm not surprised it's not allowed in "Pure Football".
I am surprised there isn't some type of forum on this site where it is allowed though. Twitter is very popular and so are many of the sites that this forum considers "blogs or non-reliable sources".
I certainly don't consider them to be "Pure Football". I do however go to other places so I can find these things. As the fan base keeps getting younger and these "rumors" being more and more popular, I would think it would be a very good and smart idea to have such a forum here.
But hey, it's not my sand box.
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There is no analogy what-so-ever that works between what happened between Montana and Young with what is going on between Weeden and McCoy... none, zilch, nada.
Firstly, I wasn't the one who originaly tried to compare the two. I responded to the poster who did.
But my comparison is accurate to the extent I made it. I compared two QB's. One who felt he was not treated fairly and another QB in Colt who may very well feel the same way. I also gave the reasons I felt as to why he may feel that way. Although the reasons that Montana felt that way and the reasoning that Colt may feel that way do differ, in the end, if Colt feels he too was treated unfairly, it doesn't change the fact that in the end they would both share the same feelings.
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reasons I've enumerated many times.. better, younger, greater upside, greater potential trade value, cheaper....
And I do not take issue with any of those points.
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and the best thing for McCoy is stay in Cleveland this year, improve his skills and see if he gets a shot due to injury.... If Weeden goes down, even if its just for a game or 2 and McCoy comes in and looks pretty good, his trade value goes up exponentially and his opportunity to go compete for the starting job elsewhere goes with it.
If Colt shares your views, I don't see any real problem here. But does he?
After our HC saying he felt good about going into this season with Colt as our starter and then drafting a QB in round 1?
After saying he'd get "a chance to compete" and then not only not getting reps with the first team, but his replacement being named before he even got to play in pre-season?
IF he feels as though he can not trust this FO and coaching staff, he may very well want out.
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Leaving now he is not going to get to compete for the starting job anywhere. I hope he realizes that.
Most likely not "this year". But Colt has two years left on his contract. He may very well feel if he has a good pre-season, his value would be high enough to at least get a "fair shot" somewhere else that he may feel he won't get here next year.
And BTW- If he were the back-up somewhere else, wouldn't he get the exact same chance to prove his worth before his next contract if their starter went down? If another team buys out his contract, he's not going to make more somewhere else next year anyway.........
So that has zilch, zero, nada to do with anything!
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