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We cut Rucker. The Giants have cut Michael Boley and now Ahmad Bradshaw.

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Giants also just cut Chris Canty who would look GREAT as a DE in our new 3-4. I hope we make a play on him.

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/eagles-dump-demetress-bell/

Eagles dump Demetress Bell

Posted by Mike Florio on February 6, 2013, 3:48 PM EST

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Last year, after Eagles left tackle Jason Peters suffered a ruptured Achilles tendon, the “break glass in case of emergency option” was Demetress Bell.

And now the bell has tolled for Demetress. The Eagles announced on Wednesday that the former Bills starter has been released.

It’s no surprise. With a $1 million base salary and an $8.5 million roster bonus due in 2013, this was a contract that was going to be honored only if Bell had played like Peters.

Bell didn’t. He appeared in nine games with five starts in his only season with the Eagles. He instantly becomes an unrestricted free agent.

The Eagles filled the roster spot by signing defensive end/linebacker Chris McCoy. And it will be difficult to know how McCoy fits into the team’s new defense since it doesn’t have, you know, a defensive coordinator.

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Browns sign Dominic Alford

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The Cleveland Browns have signed offensive lineman Dominic Alford to the roster, the team announced Wednesday evening.

The Cleveland Browns today signed offensive lineman Dominic Alford. Originally signed by the Browns as an undrafted free agent on July 30, 2011, he spent the entire 2011 season on the team’s practice squad. He was waived by Cleveland on August 31, 2012 and spent the final four weeks of the 2012 season on the Carolina Panthers’ practice squad.


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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/21651629/cap-casualty-season-here-are-some-likely-bigname-victims


Cap casualty season: Here are some likely big-name victims

The Ravens were still busing downtown to City Hall this morning, preparing for their victory parade through Baltimore, but even as they basked in the hometown celebration of the Lombardi Trophy, they realized change is afoot.

The focus is already on the 2013 season, the waiver period has begun, and that means teams are already starting to churn their rosters.

Undoubtedly, some big-name, big-money players are soon going to be hitting the street as free agents. For the 31 other teams in the NFL, the process has already begun; and for the champions, the process begins Wednesday when the Ravens' front office convenes with owner Steve Bisciotti to begin the difficult process of reshaping their roster for the future.


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Teams have already started to contact agents for their players, needing to get hefty contracts restructured to create cap room -- for example, the Vikings can't carry Jared Allen at a $17 million cap hit, and the Lions can't do the same with Matthew Stafford at over a $20 million hit; both will get new deals. The Ravens don't have anything that glaring, although finding a way to create additional space by lowering the base salaries of guys like Terrell Suggs ($6.4 million) and Anquan Boldin ($6 million) is likely.

Teams now have just over a month to be cap compliant, and franchise tags will begin being applied in just two weeks. So the business of football is back in full swing, and the future starts now.

Later this week, the Titans will make it official and announce they are bringing back running back Chris Johnson -- $9 million of his $10-million salary for 2013 becomes guaranteed if he is on the roster five days after the Super Bowl. But other high-profile players will be looking for a new employer, beginning shortly. The Lions got it started with malcontent Titus Young on Monday, and there will be plenty more to come.

Here is a look at some players who could be contract/salary cap casualties, by position:

Quarterbacks

Michael Vick, Eagles ($15.5 million): He won't be making that kind of money, but something around $10 million isn't out of the question. The Eagles want to keep him at the right price, and I'd expect the Jaguars, Cardinals and Browns to also have interest if he hits the market or is trade bait.

Carson Palmer, Raiders ($13 million base salary): There is no way Oakland is going to pay him that kind of money to stay, sources said, and Palmer will have to decide how much cash he's willing to walk away from to stay.

Kevin Kolb, Cardinals ($9 million salary, plus $2 million roster bonus): He won't make that kind of money to stay, and I can't imagine Kolb getting the roster bonus, though if he's willing to settle for more like $5 million there could still be an opportunity for him in Arizona.

Alex Smith, 49ers ($7.5 million base salary plus $1 million roster bonus): The 49ers are talking tough about keeping him, but no one is buying that. He deserves a chance to start somewhere and will get that whether via trade -- most likely -- or by being cut before his roster bonus is due next month. Kansas City could be a landing spot.

Matt Cassel, Chiefs ($7.5 million): League sources said there is almost no chance he remains in Kansas City. The fans have turned on him, and it's time for a change.

Matt Hasselbeck, Titans ($5.5 million): He has been a great mentor to Jake Locker, but now it's time for the kid to sink or swim, and the Titans need to invest in weapons around him. With so many teams needy at quarterback, Hasselbeck could get a starting opportunity elsewhere if he is released.

Matt Flynn, Seahawks ($5.25 million): The Seahawks want to deal him, and the Jets are one possibility.

Offensive line

Doug Free, Cowboys ($7 million): Given the offensive line issues there and some of Free's struggles, and the fact the Cowboys are going to be missing $18 million in cap space from the sanctions against them put in place a year ago, this looks like the end.

Willie Colon, Steelers ($5.5 million): Played like a stud when moved inside to guard, but continues to suffer season-ending injuries and Pittsburgh is transitioning to a younger line.

Jared Gaither, Chargers ($4.5 million): Teams and teammates have questioned his desire to play in the past. His back is a constant issue and he has become a source of hostility in San Diego as a free-agent bust. I'd be shocked if he stays.
Wide receiver/Tight end

Darius Heyward-Bey, Raiders ($7.7 million): He flashed progress in 2011 but had another lost year in 2012. The Raiders are again in a roster/cap crunch and are still trying to get out from under bad contracts. I can't fathom him making this to stay.

Anquan Boldin, Ravens ($6 million): With Joe Flacco about to get paid, Baltimore's cap issues are only going to escalate. Boldin was so good in the playoffs, I have to figure they rework his deal to keep him.

Jermichael Finley, Packers ($4.4 million base plus $3 million roster bonus): At some point Aaron Rodgers is going to get a contract in line with how exceptional he is. Finley has proven to be a controversial figure and this team finds pass catchers in all regions of the draft. League sources expect Finley to be elsewhere.

Marcedes Lewis, Jaguars ($4.35 million): He has been woefully unproductive since the Jags extended him a few years back. Certainly the poor quarterback play has something to do with it, but with new ownership and a new management team in place, Lewis' future is in doubt.

Jacoby Jones, Ravens ($3 million): He was a special-teams star all season and a star on offense in the postseason. Again, the Ravens are in a cap bind and have a slew of free agents, but I have to think they find a way to keep him around. He was a major factor in a series of vital victories last season.

Running Back

Michael Turner, Falcons ($5.5 million): He is slowing down and this team will be looking for new ways to get deeper into the postseason. Could be a financial recalibration in order with teams wary to pay big bucks to older running backs these days.

De'Angelo Williams, Panthers ($4.75 million): Carolina is paying too many running backs and Williams has slipped in recent years. The cap hit would be significant, although it could be spread out over multiple years. Exploring a trade would make the most sense.

Kicker

David Akers, 49ers ($3 million): It would be shocking if he is back after such a shaky season and with expectations so high for the 49ers. Nearly lost his job in the postseason.

Defensive Line

Tyson Jackson, Chiefs ($14.72 million): He has been another recent defensive line draft bust for this team and his deal was restructured to force a conclusion in 2013. That conclusion will be his departure.

Will Smith, Saints ($9 million plus $1 million roster bonus): The Saints still badly need pass rushing help, but not at this price. After all he has been through in New Orleans -- StarCaps and BountyGate -- he may want to finish his career with the Saints, but it won't be at this price.

Chris Canty, Giants ($6.25 million): He makes another $250,000 in workout bonuses and he has durability issues in the past. The Giants' defensive line is coming off a poor season and there will be changes coming.

Ryan Pickett, Packers ($5.4 million): He has been one of the most underrated tackles in the league but now has over 11 years in the league. With B.J. Raji and Clay Matthews among those who need to get paid by the Packers, and with this such a small-market team, exploring a restructuring here makes sense.

Jay Ratliff, Cowboys ($5 million): His offseason DUI -- a particular problem in Dallas recently -- and a scheme shift on defense could lead to a change here. Ratliff has not been as productive in the past few years.

Linebacker

Bart Scott, Jets ($6.9 million base/$8.7 million cap hit): The Jets have a cap mess and there aren't too many deals they can drop to create space. This is one, and sources said Scott won't be back at this price.

James Harrison, Steelers ($6.6 million): It wasn't that long ago that he was a defensive MVP, but age and injury have slowed him. The Steelers are paying other, younger linebackers big bucks and sources said the Steelers do not expect to bring him back at this salary. Many doubt Harrison would take a cut to stay without at least exploring outside options.

Calvin Pace, Jets ($5.8 million base/$11.6 cap): He too will be released, sources said, although the Jets will make a strong effort to re-sign him at a lower rate.

Rolando McClain, Raiders ($4 million): He has been nothing but trouble off field, was basically sent home for the final quarter of last season and I would expect the Raiders to look to recoup some signing bonus as well when they officially part with him.

Defensive Back

Champ Bailey, Broncos ($9 million plus $1 million roster bonus): Bailey had a brutal time of it in the postseason, the Broncos have emerging young corners and owner Pat Bowlen has had them operating on a tight budget.

Charles Woodson, Packers ($8.5 million plus $2.5 million roster bonus) : Another one of the great corners of his generation, but injuries have limited him, he is getting older, and the Packers often have to take a hard-line stance given their financial limitations.

Dunta Robinson, Falcons ($8 million): Was signed to be an elite corner a few years back in free agency but has been outshined by others. The Falcons have needs to fill and their cap situation will only get tighter when Matt Ryan gets paid.

Eric Wright, Buccaneers ($7.7 million): After a breakthrough 2011 in Detroit, Wright struggled on and off the field in 2012. Tampa Bay badly needs help at corner, but given his recent struggles I have a hard time seeing him back at this steep a price.


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Tyson Jackson, Chiefs ($14.72 million): He has been another recent defensive line draft bust for this team and his deal was restructured to force a conclusion in 2013. That conclusion will be his departure.




Wasn't this guy supposed to be one of the safest picks in his draft class? What happened to him? Is he at least league average?

I would definitely look at Jackson if the price was right. He has started 46 games as a defensive end in a 3-4.

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Other than Weeden and drafting a QB (yuck this year), what other legitimate options do we have in FA?

I see Vick, Cassel, Hasselbeck, Alex Smith (not a fit in this system IMO).

Are there any other viable options?


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Matt Moore is very intriguing.

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Matt Moore and DA are my reasonable choices.

I could see Moore starting if Weeden crashes and burns. DA I figure would be a backup no matter what.

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I heard on the radio this morning that Ed Reed may be a cap casualty. If I am the Browns FO I think I at least investigate that possibility.

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Reed is also a free agent.

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Wow, so the Ravens are at risk to lose Boldin/Jacoby Jones or both? I didn't know that... I don't see them letting Boldin go.


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Wow, so the Ravens are at risk to lose Boldin/Jacoby Jones or both? I didn't know that... I don't see them letting Boldin go.




And Reed

There was a report I heard on radio the other day about Boldin, the reporter made it feel as if they'll find a way to keep him..


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Wow, so the Ravens are at risk to lose Boldin/Jacoby Jones or both? I didn't know that... I don't see them letting Boldin go.




And Reed

There was a report I heard on radio the other day about Boldin, the reporter made it feel as if they'll find a way to keep him..



Wonder what it feels like to have so many good players that you have to figure out how to pay them all.... we can always dream.


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Wow, so the Ravens are at risk to lose Boldin/Jacoby Jones or both? I didn't know that... I don't see them letting Boldin go.




And Reed

There was a report I heard on radio the other day about Boldin, the reporter made it feel as if they'll find a way to keep him..



Wonder what it feels like to have so many good players that you have to figure out how to pay them all.... we can always dream.





Some would complain about it..LOL


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I don't see much in the way of help at QB so far on the horizon. We could do a lot worse than Weeden, and we have in the past. It might be a year to add some pieces to the defense and start shopping for that final piece of the offensive puzzle the year after.

Chudzinski has done good work with a lot less than we have on offense right now. The defensive rebuild, if it is one, has me more concerned.


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If I were the Browns, I would do anything possible to sign a decent FA at QB and let him and Weeden battle it out this offseason.

See how things go next year (hopefully Weeden has progressed enough to feel comfortable). If that isn't the case and we are still unsure, THEN we draft a QB in the top of the 1st round (trade whatever necessary. Next year's QB class will be very good; it's worth the risk at that point with a much fuller roster of talent.)


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If I were the Browns, I would do anything possible to sign a decent FA at QB and let him and Weeden battle it out this offseason.

See how things go next year (hopefully Weeden has progressed enough to feel comfortable). If that isn't the case and we are still unsure, THEN we draft a QB in the top of the 1st round (trade whatever necessary. Next year's QB class will be very good; it's worth the risk at that point with a much fuller roster of talent.)




I think that is where Matt Moore would fit in well. It's fair competition, but wouldn't make the media go nuts. He would also be a good in-between if Weeden fails and you end up looking for someone in 2014.

He's a pretty solid backup too. I'd rather go with him than Colt McCoy. I've seen enough of him.

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Admittedly I know very little of Matt Moore. Is he a vertical offense type of player? I know he's a little bit on the small side (I believe?)


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Poor mans Brett Favre. Can move a little and make plays on the run. Will fit the ball into tight places, though sometimes even if there isn't an opening. Not the headiest of QB's and gambles a little too often. Solid enough arm.


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Luckily we're very poor.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Hey...maybe that's the answer. If we're so poor, maybe we can lure Brett Favre out of retirement!


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haha I'll get the helicopter ready and we can send our faces of the franchise down to talk him into it. Get ready to go Phil and Cribbs ... oh wait


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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That's just how low we've been over the last several years. Our "faces of the franchise" were special teamers.


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Phil and Brett at least could talk about the old days...leather helmets and such

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Admittedly I know very little of Matt Moore. Is he a vertical offense type of player? I know he's a little bit on the small side (I believe?)




Basically what Toad said. I'll add that he's very streaky. Had a nice run for the second part of the year with Carolina, a few years ago.

He's not a guy that you're thinking past the season with. He's a stop-gap, and a backup QB, but at this point, it's better than Colt McCoy, and if Weeden gets worse, he's a better option than him.

I just like that it would be a very low-key sign, and I think it gives Weeden some wiggle room.

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Is he suited for the vertical offense? Is his arm strength considered above average?

Not being a jerk; I'm purely curious.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Not being a jerk; I'm purely curious.




Not ideal, but I think he would be able to adapt.

If you're looking for the best fit, it might be DA, because of the fact that he's been in his system for some years. I just hope it's not, because I don't like the guy, and we've already seen that movie.

I'm not super high on Moore, he's just the guy I would pick if I had the choice. He might win you a few games, and is a better option than what we have. Although if Weeden blows, maybe you want to bring in the worst option possible to secure yourself the #1 pick and who knows maybe the next big thing at QB is waiting for you. I don't believe in tanking in the NFL but I'm just saying.

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Thanks. Moore is worth a look IMO, but I would avoid DA at all costs. As you said, I've seen his act before and am over it.

From my perspective, I'm 100% fine with giving Weeden one more year under a more conducive system. If it doesn't work out, give me the best QB we can possibly get in the 2014 draft


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Not ideal, but I think he would be able to adapt.

If you're looking for the best fit, it might be DA, because of the fact that he's been in his system for some years. I just hope it's not, because I don't like the guy, and we've already seen that movie.

I'm not super high on Moore, he's just the guy I would pick if I had the choice. He might win you a few games, and is a better option than what we have. Although if Weeden blows, maybe you want to bring in the worst option possible to secure yourself the #1 pick and who knows maybe the next big thing at QB is waiting for you. I don't believe in tanking in the NFL but I'm just saying.




I'm just guessing here, but if the reason you don't like DA is of a personal nature, it probably has something to do with him saying things that were rather harsh as he was being booted out the door during the holmgren regime change.

He's since apologized for that outburst and I take him at his word that he was just angry about getting the boot.

I'd have to check for sure, but Chud was in Carolina and brought DA with him.

Now, if your dislike for DA is his play, I'll only say this, His two biggest targets had banner years in 2007 but both Winslow and Edwards dropped off a lot the following year. That's the year that Winslow only played 8 games, starting only 4 and Edwards had almost 400+ yards less and half as many receptions and dropped a ton of balls, and he was missing his clutch go to guy in Joe Jurevicius in 2008. That's over 40 receptions and 600 yards missing and nobody really picked up the slack. Let us not forget that Jamal Lewis dropped 300 yards that year as well

So I don't think I"d put the WHOLE thing on DA.

So as a backup, personally I don't have a problem with him. We have receivers that even he can't overthrow now LOL


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That reminds me.

Can someone in the media bust Chud's chops over that Cincinnati game where he had DA throwing 40 passes in 40 mph+ winds.

That loss which kept us out of the playoffs could be laid at the feet of the coaching staff.


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Not being a jerk; I'm purely curious.




Not ideal, but I think he would be able to adapt.

If you're looking for the best fit, it might be DA, because of the fact that he's been in his system for some years. I just hope it's not, because I don't like the guy, and we've already seen that movie.

I'm not super high on Moore, he's just the guy I would pick if I had the choice. He might win you a few games, and is a better option than what we have. Although if Weeden blows, maybe you want to bring in the worst option possible to secure yourself the #1 pick and who knows maybe the next big thing at QB is waiting for you. I don't believe in tanking in the NFL but I'm just saying.




I'm just guessing here, but if the reason you don't like DA is of a personal nature, it probably has something to do with him saying things that were rather harsh as he was being booted out the door during the holmgren regime change.

He's since apologized for that outburst and I take him at his word that he was just angry about getting the boot.

I'd have to check for sure, but Chud was in Carolina and brought DA with him.

Now, if your dislike for DA is his play, I'll only say this, His two biggest targets had banner years in 2007 but both Winslow and Edwards dropped off a lot the following year. That's the year that Winslow only played 8 games, starting only 4 and Edwards had almost 400+ yards less and half as many receptions and dropped a ton of balls, and he was missing his clutch go to guy in Joe Jurevicius in 2008. That's over 40 receptions and 600 yards missing and nobody really picked up the slack. Let us not forget that Jamal Lewis dropped 300 yards that year as well

So I don't think I"d put the WHOLE thing on DA.

So as a backup, personally I don't have a problem with him. We have receivers that even he can't overthrow now LOL




I don't like the guy as a person, and I don't like him as a player.

I got into it with him on Twitter, and he acted like the DB we all think he is. Completely immature and unproffesional.

More than anything, it just seemed like the league figured him out after 2007. Teams were taking away that deep seam (which he threw as good as anyone I have ever seen) and forced him to make short accurate throws.

It wasn't all him. I seem to remember K2 and Braylon dropping perfectly thrown passes in 2008, and it cost us quite a few close games.

If the guy gets brought in, I'll support him because of the colors he wears, but I still think he's a bad QB who shouldn't be on the team. He's not a leader.

Weeden gets the DA tag tossed around a lot, but I think the guy has more qualities. He can make the shorter throws. I don't like that at times, he's indecisive, but I think that is something that can be corrected with coaching. I don't worry about him throwing 100 mph screen passes like DA. I certainly don't think you'll ever catch him laughing it up on the sideline while his team is getting destroyed. I know other players do that, someone said Haden was doing it during the Steeler game, but at QB, you just can't do that. You ever see Tom Brady on the sideline when the Pats are down? Not a happy camper. He's with his coaches, and he's on his players, because they go as he goes.

I normally don't care about that sideline crap, that you hear in sports talk all the time "WELL WE NEED TO HIRE A GUY WHO YELLS ON THE SIDELINE FOR GOSH SAKES!!" but I think at QB, I want a guy who's not laughing it up while his team is losing.

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"I got into it with him on Twitter, and he acted like the DB we all think he is. Completely immature and unproffesional."
I'm having a hard time mentally digesting those two sentences.
You have a twitter,get into with someone on this twitter,call the person a doucebag,and then you say he is immature and unprofessional.
Something seems out of place there.


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Wait, is DB a douche bag or a dirt bag?

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lol, does it matter?

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It might matter to Indians' 2B, Jason Kipnis ... his nickname is Dirt Bag.

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"I got into it with him on Twitter, and he acted like the DB we all think he is. Completely immature and unproffesional."
I'm having a hard time mentally digesting those two sentences.
You have a twitter,get into with someone on this twitter,call the person a doucebag,and then you say he is immature and unprofessional.
Something seems out of place there.




He is a douche bag.

I called him out for being a bad QB who laughs on the sidelines while his team is getting pummeled and he played the "how many TD passes have you thrown" card.

So wait, calling someone a DB automatically makes you immature? Even if it does, I'm not the guy being paid millions of dollars to play a game. The least he can do is act like a professional.

By the way, on twitter, you can communicate pretty much the same way you can via facebook, I wasn't sure if you were confused with that.

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I got into it with him on Twitter, and he acted like the DB we all think he is. Completely immature and unproffesional.




I'm not a twitter guy. so pardon me if this is a dumb question but, how can you tell it was actually him or someone else using his name? And when was it,, Back when he was dumped by the browns,, if so, he's since apologized for that outburst and I accept it because I understand he was stunned by the suddeness of it.

As for K2 and BE dropping passes, that was my point. we also didn't have a real running game that year either so.. Everything he had going for him just up and went away in 2008.


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I got into it with him on Twitter, and he acted like the DB we all think he is. Completely immature and unproffesional.




I'm not a twitter guy. so pardon me if this is a dumb question but, how can you tell it was actually him or someone else using his name? And when was it,, Back when he was dumped by the browns,, if so, he's since apologized for that outburst and I accept it because I understand he was stunned by the suddeness of it.

As for K2 and BE dropping passes, that was my point. we also didn't have a real running game that year either so.. Everything he had going for him just up and went away in 2008.




He quit twitter right after that. I assume it was him, because he was followed by a few NFL players. I can't remember if the account was verified or not (Twitter has a process where they are able to investigate celebrity accounts, and if they can back up that it's actually them, you will see a blue check mark next to their handle when you view their page.)

I'm pretty sure it was him. It most definitely wasn't a parody account.

A few people here follow me and saw the back and forth.

Besides that whole thing, I just didn't like the way he responded in 2008. He was horrible. I was also at the game where he got hurt and allegedly everyone cheered. For one, the weather that day was awful (it was in the 30's and raining sideways) and half the stadium was empty when it happened.

I think he's a one trick pony who got figured out quickly. My proof to that is what has he done since he left? Not much of anything. It was more him than it was us. Not to say we have our own issues, but even then, if we're bringing in DA, we know what kind of results we are going to get. The same if we throw Colt McCoy, Brady Quinn, or any of these other scrubs out there. Weeden can be in that group just as much, but he at least deserves this next year to proof otherwise.

I just don't see the upside to bringing in DA. He's not a QB who is going to take you to the playoffs.

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