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I really would have paid some money to listen to that locker room speech of his. Whatever was said, made a difference IMO. A noticeable difference.

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I know I'm gonna get run over for even saying this,, But has anyone given a thought to JaMarcus Russell.

He was up to 317 LB's but according to an article on NFL.com, he's lost 37 lbs in two months and is working on losing still more..

I know I know,, total bust,, But to bring him into camp and see what's left,, does it hurt?

losing that weight shows some determination and commitment. so maybe.. what's it going to hurt?

I need to make a correction, he lost 27 lbs,, not 37..

Phil, is that you?

Little is a beast when it comes to blocking. He can destroy a defender. That probably comes from his time as a RB.

It would be interesting to see him line up at TE in a 2 TE alignment. Imagine a LB or S trying to stay with Little running down the seam,

Yeah, I heard he's following a strict diet.

In regard to JaMarcus, I have always been of the opinion that this guy is a total terd, I mean first pick and totally IMO never gave the Raiders anything worthy of a first pick. Even Couch as first pick gave us loads more than Russell gave Raiders(I know, a whole other discussion). These are only my thoughts
. With that being said, as a browns fan who for last 15 or so years has not seen but a sliver of good qb play on this team, think that there was a reason Russell got picked 1 and that was an athletic ability to play football. Can't help head was not in it can never really be 100 percent sure on these prospects mind set once fame an fortune come there way. Also I am of the utmost belief that some boys take longer to become real men than others, I myself took till lat 20s to fully grasp this concept. Anyway maybe Russell is finally ready after hitting rock bottom. Appears that he is really giving the effort to get back into NFL, and I am all for second chances.
Now with the talent and ability he had then and his new found desire you of course bring him in for look-see, if at 28 he still has arm strength and is on way to 260-270 range, you bring him in on no guarantee deal, and let him compete. Really if he can show you this much to earn contract, then it's low risk and very high reward situation.
Low risk due to fact that if for one second he doesn't bring it on field or meetings or locker room, you cut his butt right back to unemployment. High reward in sense that if he finally gets head and ability together and works and prepares at his craft like pro, he could be a phenomenal qb. And I know that the chances of this all happening are downright improbable, as a team who has not had a true franchise qb since Bernie, we should be turning over every stone to find our guy. Really same age as Weeden so would be same career length but if stars did align and Russell did become guy much better talent for vertical offense than Weeden.
You all may say I am crazy and no way he deserves chance, but after long winded post(sorry) if he becomes the guy it would be worth chance IMO, for franchise qb that we are still looking for.

hehe... btw can you pm me that picture...I wish to post it on my Football Facebook site...as a spoof on one of my OLman...

Yea Vince young always won games, yet I personally never thought he was going to be franchise type qb. His throwing motion always irked me and in today's nfl being more a passing league(whether we like it or not) don't think Youngs passing ability allows him to hold down job even though he wins more than loses. Got to be reason he can't stick with team.......

He may lose 50 pounds in weight, but needs to gain 50 points of intelligence and improve his diligence....

Run him in a widebody sweep (the ol' swingin' gate) with a huge lineman in the slot or wing and block down.
I lov TR's chances outside on anybody. He'd knock their frrakin' helmet right off their . . oh, wait. Nice to imagine, but the penalty thang. Never mind.

Remember hearing former Bill David Nelson was supposed to visit today. IMO would be quality signing if healthy, and at 6'5 great in red zone. Has anyone heard anything about his visit?

I've seen nothing about Nelson since the day it was reported he was visiting...

heard today we were doing our due diligence testing his health. Very key in our interest.

Come on, dont try to use a pic of Romeo in college to take a swipe at Nelson.

That was Jfaenet's pic of the old Jamarcus Russell..hehehe

Well David Nelson was scheduled to visit yesterday, and I can't find any news on how it went or if we offered a contract. Any updates would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Best Available NFL Free Agents - Offense

By Adam Caplan
Last updated:
April 5, 2013 11:54 am ET

Quarterback
Tyler Thigpen
Vince Young
Sage Rosenfels
Brady Quinn
Matt Leinart
Byron Leftwich
Kellen Clemens
Dan Orlovsky
Caleb Hanie
Charlie Batch
Jordan Palmer
Seneca Wallace
John Beck

Running Back
Ahmad Bradshaw
Michael Turner
Cedric Benson
Chris “Beanie” Wells
Felix Jones (KR)
Andre Brown/New York Giants (RFA)
Brandon Jacobs
Chris Ivory/New York Giants (RFA)
Rashad Jennings (KR)
La’Rod Stephens-Howling (KR)
Kahlil Bell
Kevin Smith
Isaac Redman (RFA)
Brandon Jackson
Steve Slaton (KR)
Javon Ringer
Jalen Parmele (KR)
Tim Hightower
Joseph Addai
Mewelde Moore
Lance Ball (RFA)
Kregg Lumpkin
Curtis Brinkley
Chris Rainey (KR/PR)
Stefan Logan (PR/KR)
Rock Cartwright
Thomas Clayton
John Clay

Fullback
Peyton Hillis (RB)
Jackie Battle (RB)
Corey McIntyre
Ahmard Hall
Ovie Mughelli
Lousaka Polite
Moran Norris
Spencer Larsen
Owen Schmitt
Reagan Maui’a
Mike Cox
Chris Gronkowski
Eddie Williams
Brock Bolen

Wide Receiver
Victor Cruz/New York Giants (RFA)
Brandon Lloyd
Danario Alexander/San Diego Chargers (RFA)
Laurent Robinson
Emmanuel Sanders/Pittsburgh Steelers (RFA)
Devery Henderson
Steve Breaston
Randy Moss
Julian Edelman
David Nelson
Braylon Edwards
Deion Branch
Chaz Schilens
Early Doucet
Brandon Stokley
Mohamed Massaquoi
Josh Cribbs
Austin Collie
Devin Aromashodu
Ramses Barden
Donte' Stallworth
Ben Obomanu
Derek Hagan
Chad Johnson
Jabar Gaffney
Sammie Stroughter
Jason Hill
Titus Young
Deon Butler
Anthony Armstrong
Ruvell Martin
Micheal Spurlock (KR/PR)
Patrick Turner
Matthew Willis
Roscoe Parrish (PR)
Brandon Banks (KR/PR)
Kassim Osgood
Seyi Ajirotutu
Greg Camarillo (PR)
Legedu Naanee
Adrian Arrington
Brett Swain
Bryant Johnson
Demetrius Williams
Maurice Stovall (TE)
Jerheme Urban
Quan Cosby (PR/KR)
Michael Clayton
Jarett Dilliard
Naaman Roosevelt

Tight End
Dennis Pitta/Baltimore Ravens (RFA)
Ed Dickson/Baltimore Ravens (RFA)
Kellen Winslow
Visanthe Shiancoe
Kevin Boss
Daniel Graham
Todd Heap
Randy McMichael
David Thomas
Dallas Clark
Chris Cooley
Jeff Cumberland/New York Jets (RFA)
Michael Hoomanawanui
Leonard Pope
Travis Beckum
Dante Rosario
Alex Smith
Will Heller
Michael Palmer
Billy Bajema
Martin Rucker
Matthew Mulligan
Cameron Morrah
Zach Potter
Jeron Mastrud
Jake O'Connell

Offensive Tackle
Andre Smith (RT)
Tyson Clabo (RT)
Eric Winston (RT)
Jammal Brown (RT)
Bryant McKinnie/BAL (LT)
Jared Gaither (LT)
Austin Howard (RT/LT)/New York Jets (RFA)
Winston Justice (RT)
Jason Smith (RT/LT)
Max Starks (LT)
Demetress Bell (LT)
Barry Richardson (RT)
Sean Locklear (RT/LT)
Frank Omiyale (RT/LT/G)
Wayne Hunter (LT)
Ryan Harris/HOU (RT)
Jeremy Bridges (RT/G)
Brandyn Dombrowski (RT)
Rashad Butler (RT)
D'Anthony Batiste (LT/RT)
Jason Fox (LT/RT)/Detroit Lions (RFA)
Guy Whimper (RT/G)
Chris Clark (LT/RT)/Denver Broncos (RFA)
Jordan Black (RT)
Tony Hills (RT)

Guard
Brandon Moore
Leroy Harris
Cooper Carlisle
Stephen Peterman
Tyronne Green
Bobbie Williams
Jake Scott
Deuce Lutui (4-game suspension)
Ryan Lilja
Eben Britton
Antoine Caldwell
Chilo Rachal
Leonard Davis
Derrick Dockery
Rex Hadnot
Quinn Ojinnaka (G/RT)
Reggie Wells (RT)
Russ Hochstein (G/C)
Kyle DeVan (C)
Mitch Petrus
Jamey Richard
Pat McQuistan

Center
Fernando Velasco (C/G)/Tennessee Titans (RFA)
Evan Dietrich-Smith/Green Bay Packers (RFA)
Brian De La Puente/New Orleans Saints (RFA)
Dan Koppen
Andre Gurode (G)
Doug Legursky
Mike Pollak
Steve Vallos
John Estes

Long Snapper
Ken Amato
Lonnie Paxton
Joe Zelenka
Ryan Pontbriand
Matt Katula
Chris Massey
David Binn
Justin Snow
Jake Ingram
Bryce Davis
Nick Guess

Punter
Mat McBriar
Brian Moorman
Nick Harris
Britton Colquitt/Denver Broncos (RFA)
Reggie Hodges
Daniel Sepulveda
Matt Dodge
Matt Turk
Jason Baker
Ben Graham
Ricky Schmitt (K)
Tom Malone
Sam Paulescu
Ryan Tydlacka
Ryan Donahue
Daniel Power
Chris Bryan

Kicker
Lawrence Tynes
David Akers
Neil Rackers
Steven Hauschka
Billy Cundiff
Shayne Graham
Ryan Longwell
Olindo Mare
John Kasay
Dave Rayner
Justin Medlock
Rhys Lloyd
Garrett Lindholm web page

Best Available NFL Free Agents - Defense

By Adam Caplan
Last updated:
April 5, 2013 11:55 am ET

Defensive Tackle
Sione Po'uha
Tommy Kelly
Sedrick Ellis
Richard Seymour
Corey Williams
Justin Bannan
Shaun Cody
Ron Edwards
Amobi Okoye
Trevor Laws
Rocky Bernard
Ty Warren
Casey Hampton
Antonio Johnson
Spencer Johnson
Ma'ake Kemoeatu
Steve McLendon/Pittsburgh Steelers (RFA)
Matt Toeaina
Ryan McBean
Myron Pryor
Shaun Smith
Chris Baker/Washington Redskins (RFA)
Andre Fluellen
Andre Neblett
Brian Schaefering
Leger Douzable

Defensive End
John Abraham
Kyle Vanden Bosch
Dwight Freeney
Ray Edwards
Willie Young/Detroit Lions (RFA)
Jonathan Fanene (DE in 3-4/DT in 4-3)
Trevor Scott (OLB in 3-4)
Israel Idonije
Andre Carter (OLB in 3-4)
Daniel Te'o-Nesheim/Tampa Bay Buccaneers (RFA)
Juqua Parker
Lawrence Jackson
Dave Ball
Dave Tollefson
Kyle Moore
Jarvis Moss (OLB in 3-4)
Patrick Chukwurah
Nick Eason
Antwan Applewhite (OLB in 3-4)
Vonnie Holliday
Tim Crowder
Darrion Scott
Jayme Mitchell
Derrick Harvey
Pannel Egboh

Inside Linebacker
Karlos Dansby
Brian Urlacher
Nick Barnett (WLB/MLB in 4-3)
Bart Scott
Takeo Spikes
Paris Lenon
Bradie James
Larry Grant
Barrett Ruud
Demorrio Williams
Gary Guyton
Omar Gaither
Kirk Morrison
Tavares Gooden
Mike Peterson
Tim Dobbins
Brandon Siler
Brendon Ayanbadejo
Ricky Brown
Keyaron Fox
Brandon Johnson
A.J. Edds

Outside Linebacker
Michael Boley (WLB in 4-3)
Shaun Phillips (OLB in 3-4)
James Harrison (OLB in 3-4)
Daryl Smith (SLB in 4-3)
Calvin Pace (OLB in 3-4)
Leroy Hill (WLB/SLB in 4-3)
Thomas Howard (WLB in 4-3)
Will Witherspoon (WLB/MLB in 4-3)
Rocky McIntosh (WLB in 4-3)
Bryan Thomas (OLB in 3-4)
Chris Gocong (OLB in 3-4/ILB in 3-4/SLB in 4-3)
Mario Haggan (SLB in 4-3)
Scott Fujita (SLB in 4-3)
Keith Brooking (WLB/MLB in 4-3)
Andy Studebaker (OLB in 3-4/SLB in 4-3)
Clint Session (WLB/SLB in 4-3)
Aaron Curry (SLB/WLB in 4-3)
Zac Diles (WLB in 4-3)
Akeem Jordan (SLB/WLB in 4-3)
Scott Shanle (WLB in 4-3)
Tracy White (SLB in 4-3)
Clark Haggans (OLB in 3-4)
Bobby Carpenter (SLB in 4-3, ILB in 3-4)
Matt McCoy (WLB in 4-3, ILB in 3-4)
Chris Wilson (OLB in 3-4)
Jamaal Westerman (OLB in 3-4)
Xavier Adibi
Gerald McRath
Kyle Bosworth
Brady Poppinga (OLB in 3-4)
Jesse Nading
Brandon Williams
Justin Cole

Safety
Dawan Landry
Kerry Rhodes
Charles Woodson
Gerald Sensabaugh
Quintin Mikell
Sherrod Martin
Atari Bigby
Jordan Babineaux
Jim Leonard
Madieu Williams
Ronde Barber
Erik Coleman
Abram Elam
Usuama Young
Charlie Peprah
Eric Smith
Chris Crocker
Darian Stewart
Danny McCray/Dallas Cowboys (RFA)
Jeromy Miles/Cincinnati Bengals (RFA)
Quintin Demps
Chris Hope
James Sanders
Sean Considine
Corey Lynch
Matt Giordano
Josh Barrett
Troy Nolan
Eric Frampton
Tyrone Culver
Ray Ventrone
Derrick Martin
Chris Maragos/Seattle Seahawks (RFA)
Nate Ness

Cornerback
Antoine Winfield
Quentin Jammer
Mike Jenkins
Shawntae Spencer
Sheldon Brown
Terrence McGee
Sam Shields/Green Bay Packers (RFA)
Drew Coleman
Rashean Mathis
Cedric Griffin
Nate Clements
Stanford Routt
Will Allen
Marcus Trufant
Chris Carr
Joselio Hanson
Ryan Mouton
A.J. Jefferson/Minnesota Vikings (RFA)
Jacob Lacey
Elbert Mack
Michael Coe
Justin Tryon
Brandon McDonald
Tramaine Brock/San Francisco 49ers (RFA)
Michael Adams
Bruce Johnson
Travis Daniels
William Middleton
Brian Witherspoon web page

Why is Peyton Hillis listed as a fullback?

He began his career in Denver as a FB. Can't remember if he played any FB last year or not, just remember him in as a 3rd down and short yardage back?

anyway there is a ton of talent still out there. Rhodes, Winfield, Harrison, Moss, Daniel Graham, Karlos Dansby, Woodson last count we had 27 mil left, Would love to see some of our guys get wrapped up long term but kinda hard not to want some of the guys still available as well.

I think we have even more now that Gocong and Young were released in addition to McCoy being traded.

I could be wrong though.

Yeah, I think a lot of these veteran guys will sign after the draft. Right now teams are just waiting to see what happens in the draft and then they will fill their holes accordingly.

For example, we need a safety. We will probably look to draft one. If we don't draft one or draft one that is not ready to start, then I expect we would look at Kerry Rhodes.

What about adding charles woodson? I know he's not what he was but i think he'd be an upgrade at safety and he would add leadership to our secondary.

I don't we are the type of team Woodson is willing to sign with. Then again, if we are the only team willing to pay him we become precisely the type of team he is willing to sign with. Old and expensive is not a good combination.

I would guess that he signs with the Ravens or 49ers after the draft.

Rolando McClain cut.

Minimum contract guy, change of scenary guy (he will be 24 in July)?

Hack, aren't you glad you didn't trade for him now? lol.

Maybe Horton could motivate McClain? Who knows but for small contract, would give him a look see. Would he be an OLB/ILB in our D? All for seeing if he could revive his career here, but not sure this is a move we make.

he'd likely be an ILB and challenge JMJ. as long as it's non-guaranteed $$ where we could cut him and not hurt us, then i'd give him a chance.

Why bring in problems. He hasn't been a difference maker on the field, and he's been a headache off the field. No thanks.