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Awesome.
Misused phrases. Horrible points. Complaints about the third string QB being traded. This looks to be the start of a beautiful relationship.
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If I were in charge I might try and drop out of the first round altogether.
Stockpile first rounders in 2014 and you'd know going in whether Weeden worked out or not.
Spend a year implementing new offensive and defensive schemes and bring in either a big influx of top end talent next year or have the ammo to get the top qB in the draft.
Nothing like setting up your new coach, GM, and president for failure... No way, would Haslam sign off on a wait till next year approach. Not a game has been played, and looking for 2014 should be the furthest thing from their current thoughts.
Many are lamenting the loss of the second rounder in Gordon. I am thrilled with it because we know that he should develop further and most teams would easily give up the selection for his results after a year.
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Aren't punters the holders most of the time nowadays?
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To those disappointed in the compensation, we effectively got a late 6th worth of value.
Same that Baltimore got from San Fran for Boldin.
Why would San Fran give us picks at all?? I still don't know how the heck we pulled this off. I mean they had to think we were gonna be releasing him. We should feel really good about this!!
For those who were worried about Banner and Lombardi, this should definitely help instill some confidence.
I bet that it even bumps up DJ's confidence meter by a fair amount. 
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If the 49ers fleeced the Chiefs in the trade that sent Alex Smith to Kansas City, the 49ers experienced a minor fleecing of their own in giving up a fifth-round pick and a seventh-round pick to the Browns for quarterback Colt McCoy.
McCoy was the odd man out in Cleveland, destined to be cut if the Browns couldn’t trade him. Amazingly, the Browns’ front office pulled off a deal for a guy they didn’t want.
It helped that one other team, we’re told, was pursuing McCoy. If McCoy had been cut, the 49ers would have been behind that team in the waiver order — unless the other team was the Ravens.
And that ended up being the key for the Browns. The Niners wanted McCoy, who has only three years of NFL service. To get him, the 49ers had to pull off a trade; otherwise, the other team would have had dibs via the waiver process.
Still, getting anything for a fourth-year player due to make $1.5 million to sit on the bench in 2013 is a bonus for the Browns, who now have one extra selection in the draft and one pick higher than it would have been.
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Awesome.
Misused phrases. Horrible points. Complaints about the third string QB being traded. This looks to be the start of a beautiful relationship.
April fool's profile?
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Awesome.
Misused phrases. Horrible points. Complaints about the third string QB being traded. This looks to be the start of a beautiful relationship.
Someone get that guy some food!
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Considering Colt's contract situation (1year left at 2.3mil) this "deal" is pretty good...anything would have been good
Finally the saga of the backup catcher is over
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I hate Mike Lombardi, it's no wonder he's a lightning rod for negativity, when he goes and does things like this it just goes to show that he's a complete joke.
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So now Colt has to learn to punt? Pretty bad if they want to make a kicker out of you . . .  
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MHO...Lalich, Lalich, Lalich...lol
I liked Colt and wish him the best. But I think this trade makes our drafting a QB a near certainty. Lalich is the only late round guy I'd bother with and I like him a lot.
But we also could go for a QB earlier. It is increasingly possible that none, or only one, will be picked in the first round. We might be able to bundle some picks and get Barkley, Wilson, Glennon, or even possibly Smith for a TWO and let them develop for a year like teams used to do.
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Or the really smart thing, is let the 1st round QB WE ALREADY HAVE play and develop this year and see what he can do in a system/with a coach that won't try to shove him in a square hole.
And then let's say he isn't up to snuff, next years 4th QB will probably be better than this years 1st...
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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I guess all those people who said Colt had no trade value had no clue what they were talking about.
LOL.....I suppose if you think no value means we wouldn't get anything for him.
We pretty much got nothing for him.
Depends on how you define nothing. As someone else pointed out, we got the same thing for Colt as Baltimore got for Boldin.
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I hate Mike Lombardi, it's no wonder he's a lightning rod for negativity, when he goes and does things like this it just goes to show that he's a complete joke.
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....when he goes and does things like this it just goes to show that he's a complete joke.
What, trade the 3rd string qb for a draft pick? Colt's gone....time to start looking at things realistically.
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I hate Mike Lombardi, it's no wonder he's a lightning rod for negativity, when he goes and does things like this it just goes to show that he's a complete joke.
I'm not a Lombardi fan but we just got a draft pick for our third string qb who we mower likely were going to let go for nothing.... I'd say that's a nice deal
I liked colt - had a good head on his shoulders and is a really like able guy, but for whatever reason he could never translate ethe success he had in college to the pros - I dunno if the shot he took in the championship game hurt him more than people, thought or what but at this point it doesn't matter
Colt will go and audition to be a back up in San Fran, we dumped some salary sand picked up an extra draft pick to use in another trade or to get some camp fodder... Overall nice deal IMHO
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The Browns are fortunate that more than one team showed interest in McCoy which allowed the Browns to get "something" in return, rather than nothing.
But this deal is not quit so good as it may seem...the Browns "gave up" their 6th round pick (#173) to the 49ers for their 5th round pick (#164).
....in other words, the Browns moved up 10 draft slots #173 to #164.
The other part of the deal...the Browns received from the 49ers the next to the last pick in the regular draft (#227) (before 7th round compensatory picks)..for McCoy.
Pick #228, which belongs to the Ravens and "Mr. Irrelevant".
The Browns did get something, which is certainly a plus. 
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I hate Mike Lombardi, it's no wonder he's a lightning rod for negativity, when he goes and does things like this it just goes to show that he's a complete joke.
I'm not a Lombardi fan but we just got a draft pick for our third string qb who we mower likely were going to let go for nothing.... I'd say that's a nice deal
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j/c...The Browns are fortunate that more than one team showed interest in McCoy
If true, I wonder if the other team was New Orleans???
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jc...
The Browns are fortunate that more than one team showed interest in McCoy which allowed the Browns to get "something" in return, rather than nothing.
But this deal is not quit so good as it may seem...the Browns "gave up" their 6th round pick (#173) to the 49ers for their 5th round pick (#164).
....in other words, the Browns moved up 10 draft slots #173 to #164.
The other part of the deal...the Browns received from the 49ers the next to the last pick in the regular draft (#227) (before 7th round compensatory picks)..for McCoy.
Pick #228, which belongs to the Ravens and "Mr. Irrelevant".
The Browns did get something, which is certainly a plus.
You have to ask yourself, who got the better deal? The ravens got a 6th round pick for Boldin and if you shake everything out, we got essentially a 6th for McCoy.
I'd say the Browns did just fine on the deal given that many on here insisted that McCoy had no trade value at all.
the very fact they got something tells a positive story.
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j/c...The Browns are fortunate that more than one team showed interest in McCoy
If true, I wonder if the other team was New Orleans???
I think that's the best guess. I remember hearing rumors about them being interested earlier, but San Fran had way more ammo to get Colt. They can afford giving up picks.
As for Colt I wish him luck. Seemed like a good guy. I just don't think he's a starter in this league. He'll be successful in a place where everyone knows he's just the backup and there won't be any controversy on if he should start. He could have a very nice career just being a backup.
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This is good for everyone involved. Colt was given an opportunity to go to a team that wanted him before training camp. I really liked the guy; he has a ton of heart and deserves a chance to be on a team that has the national spot light. The Browns avoid a controversy, he didn't go to the RatBirds, and we got to free up some money with a better pick on top. Like I said much earlier in this thread, the local (San Antonio) sports radio have been saying for weeks that SF was interested in Colt and it would be good for him to go there.
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The Browns are fortunate that more than one team showed interest in McCoy which allowed the Browns to get "something" in return, rather than nothing.
But this deal is not quit so good as it may seem...the Browns "gave up" their 6th round pick (#173) to the 49ers for their 5th round pick (#164).
....in other words, the Browns moved up 10 draft slots #173 to #164.
The other part of the deal...the Browns received from the 49ers the next to the last pick in the regular draft (#227) (before 7th round compensatory picks)..for McCoy.
Pick #228, which belongs to the Ravens and "Mr. Irrelevant".
The Browns did get something, which is certainly a plus.
You have to ask yourself, who got the better deal? The ravens got a 6th round pick for Boldin and if you shake everything out, we got essentially a 6th for McCoy.
I'd say the Browns did just fine on the deal given that many on here insisted that McCoy had no trade value at all.
the very fact they got something tells a positive story.
How do you get that we got a 6th for him?
We traded away our 6th, and got a pick about 10 places higher. Then we got one of the last picks in the draft. (almost a compensatory pick)
Even with all of that said, we got far more than his actual value. I think that DJ should move up that confidence meter on this deal alone. Getting anything ...... even one of the final picks in the coming draft, for McCoy is really something.
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I would guess Seattle, with Flynn off to the raiders....
It's sad to see Colt go. He needed to go, don't get me wrong. It's sad that he represents another QB that did not work out for the browns. This list is endless. I get more bitter every day thinking about how Heckert drafted a 29 year old rookie. I fear Weeds will be added to the failed list in another year or two. At the very least, maybe he can be a servicable stop-gap as we search for the franchise QB.
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we got essentially a 6th for McCoy.
Daman....NO, we did not get a 6th round pick for McCoy !
The Browns "traded" their #173 pick (6th round) in exchange for the 49ers #164 pick (5th round)...moving up 10 draft slots.
...and the other part of the deal was trading McCoy to the 49ers for the next to the last pick in the NFL draft, pick #228.
I will say this, moving up 10 slots, from a early 6th round pick to a late 5th round pick is a plus...but the only extra pick the Browns picked up for McCoy was #228 pick.
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amazing how some dawgs see every move the Browns make as Disaster.
As you stated this was our 3rd string QB - that is a fact. Not even talked as a participant for the Competition. Maybe he can compete for the #2 spot?
Also as Django stated. He only had One year left on his contract then he can hit the FA market. So basically the 49ers got a QB that can fit their system more similar to Alex Smith than Kaepernick. Their back up for 2013. Flynn is signed for multiple years of course for Starter money but he was gotten to be a starter for a similar (I know a little more due to the 6th we are giving up) .
Basically no reflection on Colt but business wise n Roster wise. We got SOMETHING for NOTHING. Who we get with those picks - odds are not somebody with impact. What we do get are prospects. We got more picks to possibly move up into the 4th round if there is somebody that we are TARGETING. Also if we choose to go with NUMBERS to replace a position. So that we take 3 mid-later round DBs...so be it - odds are better one of them make it n contribute!
In no way is this a bad thing. Even if Kaepernick goes down n Colt brings the 49ers to the playoffs. Its still the better thing for us. That just makes it win/win. Colt was not going to do that here. Now lets trade Lewis for a 6th or 7th to the Eagles
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I don't get all the bickering about the compensation. We pulled a rabbit out of the hat getting anything for a guy that was extra and soon to be released....
I bet the niners were offereing the late seventh rounder, another team came in with a seventh rounder- and the niners then swapped the fifth and the sixth to get the deal done. Its all good. We got something for nothing- well, until one realizes it cost us a third rounder to begin with...
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Thank the football gods there was at least one other team interest in Colt or we wouldn't have received anything. The seventh round may end up being nothing but a warm body in training camp but moving up several spots is of some value.
Of the other teams that may have had interest, my guess is either SEA, NO, and GB.
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I read somewhere that it was the Ravens. Trying to find a link ...
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Even with all of that said, we got far more than his actual value. I think that DJ should move up that confidence meter on this deal alone. Getting anything ...... even one of the final picks in the coming draft, for McCoy is really something.
I got lazy with it...yeah, maybe I should bump it up by 2% or something, but I also feel that I should have taken away a good chunk of those 25% for doing absolutely nothing at DB in a loaded FA class for FS and CB....that is a true bummer and I'm even feeling the pressure in my mock to add a DB at 68 instead of go get my BPAs
I suspect that this is a bigger problem...Lombardi has stated multiple times that he is a need drafter by saying that the draft isn't about "adding talent" but adding pieces that fit your team, which sounds nice but is short sighted....there have been numerous pieces written by him how he loves Belly's approach to the draft etc. (who's a pretty crappy drafter btw) He's a short sighted need drafter and doesn't care about value drafting, a term I even saw him ridicule it in one of his pieces as some kind of "nerdy scout blah" ...a true sign of a guy who doesnt get it and think he's smarter than the rest imho
We will see, but I already try to prepare myself for the inevitable reaching and/or dumb moves an approach like this will result to
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Wow. I'm glad that didn't happen.
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