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I keep wondering if Ziggy Ansah will be this years Babatunde Oshinowo?
A guy lots of folks felt would be a first rounder and he dropped to what,, the 6th round for us. Every year there is one or two guys that totally surprise us by either not being being picked high or being picked high when everyone thought they weren't that good.
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weese gots dose Hayden brudders
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Continue to spell Haden as "Hayden" and spell Hayden as "Haden"
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Just got home from the doc and Path to the draft is on and I hear Casserly talking about Bama players falling due to wear and tear from their national championship run and he listed Millner with Shoulder, Knee, Hernia and stress fracture.
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FWIW Todd McShay has the Browns taking Tyler Eifert with our 6th pick and Geno Smith NOT DRAFTED in the first round. Again, FWIW.
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I would rather take Eifert at 6 than Smith  . At the end of the season, I had Geno as my 17 and after watching pro days and combines, other guys have moved up and Geno really hasnt shown me anything that would make me want to spend a first on him. I have to admit that I would take Jones, Manuel, Bray and Barkley over Geno.
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It's hard to know what to believe in the days leading up to the 2013 NFL Draft. In several instances, I've been told one thing by a personnel man ... only to be told the exact opposite 20 minutes later by an executive from a different team.
Despite all of the misinformation out there, I do feel confident in a few areas. Here are 10 things I believe as we head toward Thursday night:
1) I believe Eric Fisher and Luke Joeckel will be taken with one of the first three picks.
The Kansas City Chiefs are a near lock to draft an offensive tackle with the first overall selection. (I think Fisher has a great shot at being their choice.) And I also expect either the Jacksonville Jaguars or Oakland Raiders to select one, as well.
2) I believe the San Diego Chargers will have to trade up if they want to land OT Lane Johnson.
Once upon a time, the Chargers were in a great spot to nab the Oklahoma offensive tackle. However, with both Fisher and Joeckel expected to go early, I don't see how Johnson falls to pick No. 11.
3) I believe Sharrif Floyd could fall out of the top 10 if the Oakland Raiders pass on him at No. 3.
The teams picking fourth through ninth either don't fit Floyd scheme-wise or are set at the position. The Tennessee Titans (10th pick) would be his last hope to land in the top 10, barring a trade up by another team.
4) I believe Justin Hunter is going to be selected in the first round.
I'm not extremely high on this Tennessee wideout, but apparently several teams feel differently. He's created a lot of buzz over the past week; numerous teams have told me that he is a lock to go on Thursday night.
5) I believe Manti Te'o will hear his name called in Round 1, too.
There just aren't 32 better football players in this draft class who would push Te'o out of the first round. I believe the Baltimore Ravens would be elated if he fell to them at No. 32, but I don't see him dropping that far down the board.
6) I believe there's a greater than 50 percent chance that we don't have a running back selected in the first round.
Eddie Lacy needed to convince everyone at his pro day that he is worth a first-round selection, and he failed to do so. I don't see any other running back solidifying a spot in the top 32, either.
7) I believe the Miami Dolphins will draft a cornerback in the second round.
The Dolphins found Sean Smith in the second round back in 2009, and I think that is where they'll find his replacement in 2013. I'd look for Miami to land safety Kenny Vaccaro, tight end Tyler Eifert or offensive guard Chance Warmack with its top selection at No. 12 overall.
8) I believe we will have a surprise cornerback selected on Thursday night.
Look for someone like Robert Alford or Darius Slay to sneak into the back end of the first round. With several teams in need of CBs at the bottom of the round, we could see a run on the position.
9) I believe Jamar Taylor is one of the safest picks in this draft.
Taylor has passed every test. He was very good on tape, had a great week at the Senior Bowl and performed well at the NFL Scouting Combine. He should hear his name called either late in the first round or at the top of the second.
10) I believe none of us has a clue as to when or where these quarterbacks are going to go.
I can't recall another year during which there was such uncertainty as to where the top signal-callers would land. I spoke with several team executives over the past 48 hours, and they were literally speechless when I asked them to match QB prospects with other teams. Nobody has a feel for this group.
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As I cannot report direct quotes from Twitter, I'll say what Jason LaCanfora is "suggesting" that, although tons of people apparently like Dion Jordan, more and more people are talking Barkevious Mingo.
I couldn't agree more even though it could be a smoke screen. I think Mingo is the best OLB in the draft. He may have one of the best first steps, if not THE best first step in getting to the QB. He has the pass rushing and coverage skills to be great. Although he does have a problem in shedding blocks based on his size, he does do well in extending his arms from what I saw when engaging a lineman. But still needs more work at the line of attack.
The question is whether he can gain a few pounds as he gets older, as he is very lean. But as much as I love Sheard if we were still in a 4-3, I'd hope to get Mingo and move Sheard.
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per roto  http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/nfl/football-player-newsAppearing on NFL 32 Wednesday, ESPN's Adam Schefter reported "there's some chatter" the Browns could trade up from No. 6 to select LSU DE/OLB Barkevious Mingo. "It could be a frenetic first round," Schefter said. Mingo has been bandied about as a potential slider, but NFL front offices know better. This also bucks recent speculation that the Browns would prefer to trade down. The NFL Draft has always been hard to predict, but it's proving to be downright vexing this season.
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Appearing on NFL 32 Wednesday, ESPN's Adam Schefter reported "there's some chatter" the Browns could trade up from No. 6 to select LSU DE/OLB Barkevious Mingo.
"It could be a frenetic first round," Schefter said. Mingo has been bandied about as a potential slider, but NFL front offices know better. This also bucks recent speculation that the Browns would prefer to trade down. The NFL Draft has always been hard to predict, but it's proving to be downright vexing this season.
LOl.....as ticked as you have been since the owner was named and the staff was hired, trading up would put me above you.
There is nobody in the picks above us I would trade up for.
If we trade, it better be down, and I think you would agree with that.
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Yeah I just saw this, few things would **** me off this draft, trading up tops that short list though.
We already don't have a second so if we move up I have a bad feeling we're going to get bent over.
Not helping this fear is the fact this is the first draft after Heckert, not sure I have much faith in this group yet and a move like this definitely won't go far in building some. Not saying Heckert was perfect but he did a damn good job of stocking this team up with some nice pieces, especially in comparison to every other regime.
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Trading up for Mingo would lose me completely when it comes to this new regime.
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Yeah hopefully this is just someone blowing smoke, if Mingo is there at 6 and he's your guy then by all means, but to move up seems crazy.
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I hate using the 6 pick on Mingo, but the thought of trading up for him...Jeebus.
The only guy I would trade up for is Dion Jordan, and I wouldn't give up hardly anything. Maybe if the Lions were willing to swap for a 6th or 7th rounder or something.
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JC I really like Mingo but don't think I would trade up for him. Personally, I think this is the last round to "throw up" the last of the smoke screens. In non-related draft news: The Chicago Sun-Times reports the Browns are "seriously considering" a trade for Davone Bess, and are one of "several teams in the mix."
Reporter Sean Jensen hears "mid-round picks (are) being discussed." The Miami Herald confirms Bess is on the block, and it would be a "surprise" if he wasn't moved. Bess' ticket out of Miami was punched the day the Dolphins randomly signed Brandon Gibson to a three-year, $9.755 million deal. A chain-mover who offers nothing after the catch, Bess is due $2.6 million this season. He could maybe fetch a fifth- or sixth-round pick. A fifth would be a big-time win for Dolphins GM Jeff Ireland. link This I wouldn't like.....
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Love it!
Get er done. He fights for the football and is really elusive in short spaces. He doesn't have the burner speed though. He's a slot guy and a good, reliable one at that.
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I don't think anyone the Browns need is worth trading up...the LT prospects are worth it, but we happen to be a team that's set up for good at both OTs
If we trade up for ANYONE in this draft, I'll reset my confidence-o-meter, as trading up into the top 5 will cost us our 3rd at least or (even more stupid) future picks
That aside....trading UP in a weak class at the top seems like a dumb approach to take
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For a 6th or 7th I wouldn't mind it, hes an established slot guy but knowing the Dolphins are looking to move him you're crazy to go higher than a 6th.
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Would LOVE a trade for Bess for a late rounder
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Rumors are saying the Browns might be sending multiple picks to the Dolphins for Bess. I like Bess, but certainly not for multiple picks.
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Appearing on NFL 32 Wednesday, ESPN's Adam Schefter reported "there's some chatter" the Browns could trade up from No. 6 to select LSU DE/OLB Barkevious Mingo.
"It could be a frenetic first round," Schefter said. Mingo has been bandied about as a potential slider, but NFL front offices know better. This also bucks recent speculation that the Browns would prefer to trade down. The NFL Draft has always been hard to predict, but it's proving to be downright vexing this season.
That's one of those moves where you better be right if you make it ...... because the only assets we have to trade up would be a player ......or future draft picks. (which I would hate giving away) Trading our 1st and 3rd isn't going to move us up very far.
Mingo is a huge gamble to me, because he is so inexperienced., (Much like Ansah) However, Mingo is explosive and fast off the line with his 1st step. He also has long arms that help muck up passing lanes for opposing QBs, I could be talked into him at 6 ..... largely because there is no sure fire star waiting for us there ... but I don't want to trade up for him. Maybe we're starting a rumor to try and get Jordan to drop? lol
All that said, I would prefer we take either guy over Smith, or any of the other QBs in this draft. I want no part in trading up though. I just don't see the value in this limited draft. The only way I would trade up is if I needed an OT and wasn't in position to draft one ..... or if I was near the bottom of the 1st round and I needed a receiver, and wanted a speedy kid like Austin. (and trading up to 6 would be too much for him ... although, if I were a team line the Niners, with tons of picks, and a desire to grab a "final piece", then draft position would be far less important)
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On Mayock's mock, he has us taking Geno. I hope he is wrong
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Rumors are saying the Browns might be sending multiple picks to the Dolphins for Bess. I like Bess, but certainly not for multiple picks.
Yeah, same here. Especially since he "only" has one year left on his contract (2.63mil). Hopefully it's just a mid round pick swap plus a late rounder, something like 104+175 for Bess and 111, that'd represent an overall value of a mid 5th
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My shot in the dark guess is that KC wants a cherry on top for the Albert trade and Miami is trying to acquire a late round pick for just that reason.
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What if he was part of a trade were the Dolphins want to move up to #6?
Perhaps instead of getting Miami's 2nd round pick we take their 3rd and get Bess (as well as whatever else we would have gotten).
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I think that's too much value we've given up.
Maybe the #6 and our 5th rounder for #12, their 2nd rounder, Their 5th rounder and Bess.
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What if he was part of a trade were the Dolphins want to move up to #6?
Perhaps instead of getting Miami's 2nd round pick we take their 3rd and get Bess (as well as whatever else we would have gotten).
I was just about to post something like this. I agree, it could be a part of a draft day deal for MIA to move up.
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Rumors are saying the Browns might be sending multiple picks to the Dolphins for Bess. I like Bess, but certainly not for multiple picks.
The only way I see this happening is if they are giving up 6th and 7th rounders and nothing more but are making trades of their own to acquire MUCH higher picks, like multiple 1st thru 3rd rounders and nothing below that and only 3rd rounders from teams in the upper half of that round.
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I think that's too much value we've given up.
Maybe the #6 and our 5th rounder for #12, their 2nd rounder, Their 5th rounder and Bess.
Even in that scenario, the Dolphins are getting the much better deal.
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On Mayock's mock, he has us taking Geno. I hope he is wrong
Mayock lost credibility with that. You saw how he wanted to skip over the Browns pick because he knew that just saying it was ludicrous.
Hell, I've heard more sane garbage come from the likes of Toni (yes, I meant to spell the first name with an 'i') Grossi.
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Browns trading up for Mingo is Mingo's agent trying to convince the rest of the league that his guy isnt sliding hard.
I am becoming more convinced that my first thought on this QB class months ago was correct and NO QBs will go in round 1.
I believe the Browns will not select a player in the top 20.
defensive backs will rise tonight. I will say atleast 8 defensive backs will go in the first.
Ansah was wearing a ton of makeup to make him look younger and he still looked 40, he will fall out of the top 10.
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Maybe the #6 and our 5th rounder for #12, their 2nd rounder, Their 5th rounder and Bess.
For clarity, I didn't say trade #6 for #12 and Bess straight up. I included "and what ever else we would have gotten". We would get more than just Bess but I used a generality and left out specifics because they were irrelevant to the post.
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I don't think anyone the Browns need is worth trading up...the LT prospects are worth it, but we happen to be a team that's set up for good at both OTs
If we trade up for ANYONE in this draft, I'll reset my confidence-o-meter, as trading up into the top 5 will cost us our 3rd at least or (even more stupid) future picks
That aside....trading UP in a weak class at the top seems like a dumb approach to take
I agree. I think you are talking about round 1. If we trade up later in the draft, I am ok with that.
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