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It is hard to keep up with all of the breaking news. Yahoo is doing a good job of posting updates as they happen.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/live...-192213861.html

On a personal note, I feel lucky to say that of the 8 people I know running it, 7 are accounted for at this point. One had just finished the event, it tears me apart just thinking about this.




Same. A guy I know from another site was in the chute when it went off. Two freaking minutes after he finished!


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I'm so freakin pissed right now I can't stand it

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The NY Post is not a tabloid newspaper, it's simply the opposing newspaper to the NY Times.

A 20 y.o. Saudi national. Anyone surprised?

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It's every bit as tabloid as Action 19 News here in Cleveland... and that's pretty tabloid.


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... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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yea ch.19's pretty low class.

Has anyone's internet been screwy today?

Plus, just like after the Newtown shootings I just now got a robocall from a home security service.

I'm feeling paranoid.

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The NY Post is not a tabloid newspaper, it's simply the opposing newspaper to the NY Times.

A 20 y.o. Saudi national. Anyone surprised?




Boston PD is denying anyone is in custody.

This doesn't seem like Al Qaeda terrorism. This seems more like domestic terrorism a la Eric Rudolph, the guy who bombed the '96 Olympics as well as several abortion clinics.

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I find it hilarious that this site allows youtube links but doesn't allow twitter links from sources like NBCNews or other such sources.

That's funny in an ironic way.

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They're denying the man is in custody but they're being sourced as the origin of a report that a wounded man is being 'guarded' at a Boston hospital as a 'possible suspect'.

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I find it hilarious that this site allows youtube links but doesn't allow twitter links from sources like NBCNews or other such sources.

That's funny in an ironic way.




It's been explained about a couple dozen times why Twitter isn't allowed. You know if it was, it would get abused and no way the refs could keep up.


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So all these people get hurt and this one guy gets guarded as a possible suspect? He is reportedly a Saudi? Is this kind of like the men of Middle Eastern descent seen fleeing from The OKC bombing??

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I suppose, but I don't even use Twitter. I was just going to link to the NBC News official account on Twitter.

Maybe it could be listed as 'pending review' and if it was abused, then the abusers could be bounced from the site.

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I think that they should punish people who do this stuff appropriately.

If you plant bombs and kill someone, then you should be tied to a chair, with a bomb attached ...... maybe a small bomb that would take a limb as well ..... with an undetermined timer .... maybe it goes off today .... maybe tomorrow ...... maybe a week from today. Work in some false alarms, and really give the bomber the full experience of what they did to others.






The bottom line is the runners/workers didn't know what was going to happen.

I understand the feelings, but we don't need crazy talk at this point. Come on man...and I consider you a long time friend.

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So all these people get hurt and this one guy gets guarded as a possible suspect? He is reportedly a Saudi? Is this kind of like the men of Middle Eastern descent seen fleeing from The OKC bombing??

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Or, could simply have been at the wrong place at the wrong time.

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So all these people get hurt and this one guy gets guarded as a possible suspect? He is reportedly a Saudi? Is this kind of like the men of Middle Eastern descent seen fleeing from The OKC bombing??

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Or, could simply have been at the wrong place at the wrong time.


That was kind of my point


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Being reported that one of the casualties is an 8 year old child. Just awful to hear.

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My heart goes out to all those effected by this terrible tragedy.....

This is just terrible.....be with them Oh Lord!

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I don't care who's responsible, be it a homegrown or foreign plot. We need to find those responsible and HANG them.

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So all these people get hurt and this one guy gets guarded as a possible suspect? He is reportedly a Saudi? Is this kind of like the men of Middle Eastern descent seen fleeing from The OKC bombing??

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Or, could simply have been at the wrong place at the wrong time.


That was kind of my point




Oh, I apologize. I forgot to use the purple colored lettering when I made the statement.

Reportedly, they have surveillance of the suspect putting suspicious items from a backpack into the trash cans before the explosions.

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CBS reporting a Saudi national is "in custody".

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/04/15/several-hurt-in-explosions-at-boston-marathon-finish-line/




Isn't that what another poster called the 'tabloid' NY Post reported earlier?

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The more sources the better. NBC is reporting a person here on a "student visa" is in custody.

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Here's a picture of former Browns Guard Joe Andruzzi helping out in Boston earlier today.


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Great stuff right there


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I think that they should punish people who do this stuff appropriately.

If you plant bombs and kill someone, then you should be tied to a chair, with a bomb attached ...... maybe a small bomb that would take a limb as well ..... with an undetermined timer .... maybe it goes off today .... maybe tomorrow ...... maybe a week from today. Work in some false alarms, and really give the bomber the full experience of what they did to others.




Would you say you are in favor of repealing the Eighth Amendment?





I understand the requirements regarding no cruel or unusual punishment, but to me that would be neither. It would be justice, making the person who committed the crime experience exactly what he put others through. To me there is nothing unduly cruel or unusual about that, especially in cases like this, or the movie massacre, where people were terrorized and killed in a vile and cruel manner.


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Schrodinger's bomb-chair would definitely qualify as unusual....

One thing I find very strange about this bombing is the extreme number of injuries, which sound severe...legs being severed, yet the extremely low amount of fatalities. How advanced is medicine these days that so many people can survive having their legs blown off? Fantastic job by the medical staff I am sure. A very surprisingly few fatalities with such severe injuries. As a blessing, the bombing took place right next to the medical tent..which I am sure was well staffed at a marathon.

From what I understand this explosives were full of ball bearings. I'm not exactly certain how these bombs are composed, but from what I understand it isn't just an explosion.

One of my thoughts is always that nutjobs / terrorists..these acts of violence are more about creating fear or making some philosophical statement rather than actually producing carnage. One way to stick it to them is to keep a level head and not get too obsessed with what is a rare and relatively minor incident. Aside from the obvious tragedy of casualties and injuries I feel like a great loss is that the Boston marathon will not feel safe for a while.

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You say cruel ..... I say justice.

Doing to someone what they did to others cannot possibly be cruel in my opinion. It is the fairest of sentences.

On a completely unrelated note, former Brown and Patriot Joe Andruzzi was at the marathon, and helped some victims.

Joe Andruzzi, former New England Patriots player, helps after Boston Marathon blasts - ESPN Boston
http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id...marathon-blasts

Former New England Patriots offensive lineman Joe Andruzzi was at the finish line of the Boston Marathon on Monday when two explosions killed at least three people.

The Patriots retweeted a photo of Andruzzi, who played on New England's three Super Bowl championship teams, carrying a woman near the scene of the explosions.

Andruzzi's charitable foundation, which had participants in the marathon, was hosting an event at a local establishment on Boylston Street, which was close to the second explosion. Andruzzi and his wife Jen were near the finish line at the time of the first explosion, greeting runners.

Andruzzi later tweeted: "Jen and I are safe. & Our thoughts & prayers are with all the victims and their families impacted at today's Boston Marathon. TY to all our emergency personnel."

Andruzzi played for the Patriots from 2000-04. His three brothers were New York City firefighters involved in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

In the first game after the attacks, Andruzzi carried two American flags on to the field during pregame introductions as his brothers, wearing firefighter gear, raised their helmets to the crowd.


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I didn't say cruel. I said unusual.

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I think that they should punish people who do this stuff appropriately.

If you plant bombs and kill someone, then you should be tied to a chair, with a bomb attached ...... maybe a small bomb that would take a limb as well ..... with an undetermined timer .... maybe it goes off today .... maybe tomorrow ...... maybe a week from today. Work in some false alarms, and really give the bomber the full experience of what they did to others.




Would you say you are in favor of repealing the Eighth Amendment?





I understand the requirements regarding no cruel or unusual punishment, but to me that would be neither. It would be justice, making the person who committed the crime experience exactly what he put others through. To me there is nothing unduly cruel or unusual about that, especially in cases like this, or the movie massacre, where people were terrorized and killed in a vile and cruel manner.




The Eighth Amendment exists to protect from exactly that type of response.

I'm not saying you're wrong or anything. I disagree with you, but it's an opinion.

But I would say your opinion is pretty incompatible with the Eighth Amendment.

And your last sentence pretty much says 'I don't think it's cruel to kill someone cruelly'.

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I think you are thinking with your emotions, which is understandable.

I just am along the lines of thinking, two wrongs don't make a right. If you do the same things that you are upset with someone else for doing, then do the same for yourself, you are being pretty hypocritical.

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I think controlling emotional responses and looking for fair justice is what separates our country and others from the countries we fear the most.

Part of the terrorist's strategy is to cause fear and irrational response.

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An irrational response, you mean like 15 of the 19, 2001 hi-jackers being from Saudi Arabia and we invade Iraq. That kind of an irrational response?


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The world is screwed up, from our elected officals to TV everything is about SELF....SELF....it's all about Blame...


What happened in Boston is a terrible example of our sociaty and how low we as humans have fallen, yes the majority of people are good natured but inorder to get somewhere now days one has to be somewhat sinical in thier actions. God Pray for the lost and hurt in Boston.



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An irrational response, you mean like 15 of the 19, 2001 hi-jackers being from Saudi Arabia and we invade Iraq. That kind of an irrational response?




No I think they mean immediate retaliation based on emotions at the time of an event, and not having all the facts.

Like a kid goes missing, and a mob decends on a known child molester in the neighborhood without any evidence he was involved.


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Horrible. Media is flogging this all over TV. Prayers to those who need them and their loved ones. Said mine.
This was horrible to see.


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I guess it's true right,, if someone wants to kill people, they don't need a gun. All they need is the will and means.

It's also true that their were armed cops all over the place, and it didn't stop the person that planted those bombs.

So carrying a weapon doesn't guarantee safety either.

Honestly, I don't know what the answer is. I'm not even sure there is one. Certainly not a "one size fits all" answer.

I think I am depressed today.. I'm not sure why, but this really got to me. Not like 9/11 but certainly similar.


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The answer is

There is absolutely no way to keep everyone safe all the time. Everyone wants to think we can, but it just isnt possible.

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There is absolutely no way to keep everyone safe all the time. Everyone wants to think we can, but it just isnt possible.




Totally agree. I think the City of Boston handled that about as well as they could have.

You can't turn the world into a room with rubber walls.

I do think with how much footage people shot with cameras and cell phones, that it's almost a guarantee this person or persons' face got caught. I just hope they can find it, before this happens again.

I keep thinking of Atlanta and Eric Rudolph, and how he wasn't done after the Olympic bombing.

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I'm going to leave me opinion about the people involved, and the media, and just say my thoughts are with everyone who was there. Yet another shameful act to endure...

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I think controlling emotional responses and looking for fair justice is what separates our country and others from the countries we fear the most.

Part of the terrorist's strategy is to cause fear and irrational response.


My thoughts exactly. If we track someone down, and remove them from this earth because they are a threat to our safety and must be culled from the herd, I have zero problem with that. It should not however, be an act of vengeance. I had no problem with us killing Bin Laden, because he was a threat to us, and needed to be eliminated. I didn't want him dead, to "get them back"

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From what I understand this explosives were full of ball bearings.




all reports that I have seen have said there were no ball bearings or anything they believe were embedded in the bomb. the flying debri seems to indicate that it was in a metal box (mailbox, etc.). here's one such report that also gives a more current update on the chase:

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/boston-mar...17#.UW1a50rHyjc


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