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I think Pestano is headed to the DL soon. His fastball is only hitting the upper 80's
I guess this article begs to differ, but it did mention his velocity being down. At least we got a good outing from Kluber. Hopefully, we can close it out. I'll take a split with Boston! 
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BOSTON -- If there were any health concerns about setup man Vinnie Pestano, Indians manager Terry Francona would not use the reliever in a game. Francona's only concern right now is getting Pestano back to his usual comfort level on the mound.
During Saturday's 7-4 loss to the Red Sox, Pestano surrendered four runs on four hits in the eighth inning for the worst outing of his career. The right-hander showed diminished velocity and command issues, but Francona said it was not the result of lingering discomfort in Pestano's recently injured elbow
"It'll be fine," Francona said on Sunday. "There's not any medical issues. We already got through that. Now, we've just got to get him back to being Vinnie."
Pestano was shelved on the 15-day disabled list due to right elbow tendinitis May 6-17 (retroactive to May 1), but the pitcher said Saturday that his arm feels fine. During his 31-pitch appearance against the Red Sox, Pestano was hitting around 87-90 mph with his fastball, which typically sits at 92-93.
Pestano said two weeks without throwing while sidelined on the DL are likely to blame.
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Man, Perez has major, major issues right now. He comes in to a 5-2 game, and it's now 5-4 with 2 outs, and he also has men on 2nd and 3rd.  Geesh. Come on Chris.
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This is so hard to watch........... 
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Perez is definitely hurting to some degree. He throws a "make sure" pitch", and it's "just a little bit" (5 or 6 feet) outside.
Joe Smith comes in to a tie game, with a bases loaded, and a 2-1 count.
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You know ..... I understand the mentality of not wanting to come out of the game, but man, when you are hurt, and can't do your job, isn't it better to let someone else who isn't hurt come in and get the job done instead of finishing off blowing what was a 5-2 lead?
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This is so hard to watch...........
Now Perez pulled a "Major League" Vaughn-esque like warm up throw. And Harry Doyle saying "juuuuust a bit outside...." 
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You know ..... I understand the mentality of not wanting to come out of the game, but man, when you are hurt, and can't do your job, isn't it better to let someone else who isn't hurt come in and get the job done instead of finishing off blowing what was a 5-2 lead?
+1 He put Joe Smith in a really horrible spot and he gets the lost!!!
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What a crappy way to lose a game.  I have thought that there was something wrong with Perez's arm for the past couple of weeks or so. He just hasn't seemed to have the velocity that he normally has, and he has given up more HR in that time than he normally does in a couple of months. Hopefully Pestano can get back to 100% ...... because I think we're going to need him.
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I have said for a long time Perez is NO CLOSER!!!
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Perez shouldn't pitch another game in an Indians uniform.
Trade him away. He ain't right in the head. At least he'll be able to sell insurance.
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At least he'll be able to sell insurance.
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I have said for a long time Perez is NO CLOSER!!!
He couldn't close McDonald's at closing time. Trade value is ZERO!
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He's been a strong closer for the Indians. He saved 36 out 0f 40 save opportunities in 2011, and 39 out of 43 save opportunities last year. He's a quality closer. He's not the best in MLB, but he's upper tier. People hated Mesa. They hated Wickman, Some even hated Doug Jones. Unfortunately, it looks to me like there is something wrong with Perez's arm. He gave up a total of 11 HR over the 2011-2012 seasons combined. He has given up 4 already this season. Something isn't right. He is just getting rocked at times this year. He would give up a run here or there in the past, or put a guy or 2 on ..... but then he would manage to slam the door shut. This year the door is flying open. There's a physical problem of some sort. His velocity is noticeably down this year. Something isn't right with him.
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Seems as if his velocity has been going down each year. Last year he had more velocity than this year but it was still noticeably less than the year before. Not sure what to make of that.
I read the article saying that there was nothing physically wrong with Pestano but I am not buying it. We frequently hear something similar right before a guy goes on the DL.
Regardless of what the problem is. Perez and Pesttano have been killing us lately.
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Yeah, Pestano has worried me somewhat as well. I dunno what to think with him. He was on the DL, so maybe it was rust ..... but he got rocked pretty hard too. However, in his case it was one outing.
His 1st blown save was giving up a run for the tie. That can happen to the best from time to time. His 2nd was just getting crushed. However, overall since coming off the DL he's really had 3 decent outings, and one bad one. Francona says that he just needs his "spring training" to build his arm speed back up after spending 20 or so days on the DL. That could be possible. Who knows? It's hard to tell from TV.
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Perez to DL. Hagadone recalled. At least he got to see the other end of the I-71 corridor this time.
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Heard on the radio that Peter Gammons thinks Cody Allen is one of the best young relievers in MLB, but that Brian Shaw will be the Indians closer until Perez recovers. I'm not that impressed with Allen; he throws 94-95 but it looks pretty straight - not "lively". He also appears to only have one pitch - at least thats what I've seen the few times I've seen him.
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Heard on the radio that Peter Gammons thinks Cody Allen is one of the best young relievers in MLB, but that Brian Shaw will be the Indians closer until Perez recovers. I'm not that impressed with Allen; he throws 94-95 but it looks pretty straight - not "lively". He also appears to only have one pitch - at least thats what I've seen the few times I've seen him.
I think that it makes sense to use Shaw in the closer's role to start with.
I like Allen. His fastball explodes past hitters. I do think that a closer can be successful with one plus level pitch, especially if it is a superior level pitch.
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It's all about location. If you can chuck it up to 97 mph and hit your spots most of the time, you can get by without a plus secondary pitch as a closer (although pairing that up with a decent 85 mph change would be devastating).
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Would a 85 mph changeup or an 84mph slider work? Pitch f(x) says Allen throws the offspeed pitch about 20% of the time. Also, opponents are hitting just a little over .200 on Allen's fastball the past two years. Not bad at all.
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Giambi with a blast! 2-2 in the bottom of the 8th. I was doing yardwork, Ubaldo must have pitched well. Hagadone pitching.
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Somebody 'splain to me why we were pitching to Votto with 1 out and a man on 3rd? Why not walk him and go for a DP? 4-2 Reds.
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Reds win 4-2. Punk move by Chapman throwing a pitch over everything and then throwing at Swisher's head. No warning to the benches. Apparently, that's only for when Carrasco is wild inside.
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Somebody 'splain to me why we were pitching to Votto with 1 out and a man on 3rd? Why not walk him and go for a DP? 4-2 Reds.
Brandon Phillips. Nuff said. 
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Phillips has killed us over the years, but with 1st base open and maybe the best hitter in the NL at the plate its still good baseball to put the double play in place. Turns out Phillips whiffed. I don't think Bruce would have been bunting with 2 outs and the winning run at 3rd.
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Reds win 4-2. Punk move by Chapman throwing a pitch over everything and then throwing at Swisher's head. No warning to the benches. Apparently, that's only for when Carrasco is wild inside.
It was obvious he didn't have good control today, the punk comment is silly. There was nothing intentional about it.
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BS, he was head-hunting. He innoculated himself from an umpire's warning - and maybe getting tossed - by throwing to the screen on the pitch before.
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Reds win 4-2. Punk move by Chapman throwing a pitch over everything and then throwing at Swisher's head. No warning to the benches. Apparently, that's only for when Carrasco is wild inside.
Kudos to the umpire behind home plate for doing absolutely nothing. Unintentional, my ass!
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Whatever, Jules. The guy throws 100 mph and he was head-hunting. Did he mean to hit Swisher? Probably not. But don't tell me that was "bad control". It was, however, a "purpose pitch" that a lot of pitchers wouldn't get away with without some kind of warning, or even ejection.
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Tomorrow we accidentally hit Votto and get a six gamer.
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The thing about Chapman is that he's either really on, or REALLY off. This wasn't the first time it happened and it won't be the last. I don't think it was intentional...I've seen it too many times.
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A pitch to the screen is a message. The next pitch at your head is the exclamation point on the message. It wasn't unintentional. I give Swisher credit for at least putting a good swing on a pitch and hitting it to the wall. Wish he'd gotten a little more of it just to see Chapman's reaction to Swisher chirping at him as he rounded the bases.
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That's fine, you are free to feel about it how you wish. I'm just telling you that those of us that watch him pitch regularly know better. If he had actually been throwing for his head, he would have hit his target.
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And if Perez for example did the exact same thing to Votto, Reds fans would be singing a different tune.
Keep making excuses for Chapman.
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And the Tribe fans would be defending Perez. Pot...meet kettle.
I will keep defending him, because I honestly don't believe he did it purposefully.
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If he had actually been throwing for his head, he would have hit his target.
Well isn't that good to know.
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Time for a history lesson boys and girls.
A purpose pitch was always high and tight. The batters back in the day hit the dirt. The don't do that anymore. They stand there and get hit in the head like a total dummy.
If the pitchers come in and low, say at the hip, the batter gets hit with no chance to get out of the way. Back in the day, that is where you aimed if you wanted to hit a guy.
My feeling is the hitters need to do a better job of getting out of the way if it is up and in, and that is by going down.
You don't see hitters do that anymore. The don't hit the dirt.
Sorry, pitchers need to throw purpose pitches without being called head hunters. It's been a part of baseball for 100 years, and the good pitchers still use it.
In baseball, the hitter gets half the plate, the pitcher gets half....the hitter in, the pitcher out. If the hitter tries to take my outside half away, I have no choice but to claim my stake inside.
I was a catcher when I played, and think like a pitcher, since that is what catchers do....I am going to own one half of the plate....you want the outside half, I am claiming the inside....and 6-12 inches off the plate isn't outside the realm of normal control IMO. If it bounces off your head or hand, that's your problem, not mine.
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