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OK, that's fair, I guess.
I read up on him a bit, and he was supposed to be one of the quicker Center prospects coming into the league. I suppose that he could have slowed down some. His scoring still intrigues me. I would love a 20 PPG guy in the middle.
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I really don't like the whole "the opponent scored X with him on the court, and Y without", because it could have nothing to do with him.
Did anyone else get a good chuckle at YT poo-pooing someone using statistics to support their claim?
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Have you watched him play? What do you see as his particular weaknesses on defense? What prevents him from being a good defender that he might be able to improve upon? What areas on defense does he struggle with that he is unlikely to be able to improve? I can look up numbers, but I haven't really paid a great deal of attention to the guy in the past, and his offensive numbers look intriguing.
Yes, I've watched him play.
What prevents him from being a good defender? First and foremost, he doesn't even try to play to defense. He's also slow. That's a pretty bad combination.
Couple that with his price tag and the fact that the Cavs need defenders, not more scorers, and Jefferson would be a terrible fit.
You shouldn't just look at a player's PPG and say 'we gotta get this guy!'.
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I have to laugh when you berate my looking at stats ..... only to use stats to try to bolster an argument.
I'm not saying one shouldn't use stats to make or bolster an argument.
But more often than not, when you talk about players, it seems like you've never actually seen them play, but rather just went to ESPN and looked at their base statistical averages, making assumptions from there.
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I think that Bosh is a good player, but I do not necessarily think that he is a great player. He's a decent 3rd option ..... but not some spectacular one. He's certainly not a player to build a franchise around, and he is a 3rd option at best on the heat.
Why are you trying to twist the argument into whether or not Bosh is a guy you build a franchise around?
This came up when you said that Bosh wasn't a 'legitimate third option', which is absolutely insane. He's easily the best third option in the NBA.
You're moving the goal posts because you tried to make a ridiculous argument.
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I should ask you how many times you watched Karasev's games.
I've watched him play live.
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However to say that he is a backup at best after a pretty damn decent rookie year is ridiculous
Do you understand what the term Sixth Man means?
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Where did you see Karasev play live? If you tell me you're a Ruski and you live in Moscow everything will finally make perfect sense.
My opinion on Jefferson is that he has the athletic tools to be anything he wants to be.
He simply does not want to defend. Maybe he would for a contender. Maybe not.
Skilled guys with a stroke like his don't come around often.
I wish he'd fully utilize his talent.
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Where did you see Karasev play live? If you tell me you're a Ruski and you live in Moscow everything will finally make perfect sense.
My opinion on Jefferson is that he has the athletic tools to be anything he wants to be.
He simply does not want to defend. Maybe he would for a contender. Maybe not.
Skilled guys with a stroke like his don't come around often.
I wish he'd fully utilize his talent.
Happy Bday HD!
I agree with you, def is all about effort, laziness is the main reason why players aren't good defenders IMO. Guys like Carmelo, TMac, Vince Carter, Blake Giffin will never get respect from me, as they only play half the game. Al Jefferson just doesn't care to play def, he's 28 and IMO will never learn/care to play defense.
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Where did you see Karasev play live? If you tell me you're a Ruski and you live in Moscow everything will finally make perfect sense.
A good friend of mine is a graphic designer for Nike. I try to get out Portland to visit her once or twice a year. I went a few months back and she had some tickets for the Hoops Summit USA vs. The World game.
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My opinion on Jefferson is that he has the athletic tools to be anything he wants to be.
He simply does not want to defend. Maybe he would for a contender. Maybe not.
Skilled guys with a stroke like his don't come around often.
I wish he'd fully utilize his talent.
The guy's been in the league 9 years, and his M.O. hasn't changed. I'm not holding my breath for him to come around, but I agree that the tools are there.
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That's pretty cool! So can you give us the full story? I'd love to hear your first hand account! Thanks! 
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There were a whole bunch of things that went on - scrimmages, practices, drills, etc. - that I didn't see any of. I just went to the game.
Apparently Karasev really impressed people, but it must have been in those other areas - he didn't have a great game.
He jacked up a lot of 3 balls, and almost none of them went down. He did not shoot well overall. Finished with like 7 or 9 points in 25-30 minutes.
With that said, the kid does have a nice stroke, and I think he can contribute right away in limited minutes as a catch-and-shoot guy on the wing. Ideally, I think he could use another year overseas for seasoning, but it sounds like he's coming over.
I do worry about his shooting %'s. There's no denying that the kid can stroke it. He nailed everything in shootarounds. But in live action, he doesn't put up the percentages you'd desire from that type of role player.
He either couldn't rebound or had no desire to. His defense was pretty bad, as well. His man abused him with relative ease.
The French kid the Spurs drafted looked like a stud out there (though he was a turnover mchine). I was mainly focusing on Andrew Wiggins, who had a mixed bag of a game.
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j/c It's been reported for awhile that we're enamored with Earl Clark. Apparently he was visiting today. http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2013/07/earl_clark_reportedly_working.htmlIf we sign him, does anyone think that Tristan Thompson is gone? He's popped up in a lot of trade talks, and we just drafted a PF #1. Signing another wouldn't really be a good sign. I hope we don't move Thompson. I mean, if the price is right, sure. But he's had some positive developments. He's still fairly one-dimensional, but his game has grown a lot in a short time.
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I invite anyone to take a look at that second video.
You can tell he was a coaches son and that he has loads of talent. And a pure stroke.
He also looks to be a real intelligent passer.
But he's got to get his body right or he's not going to be anything but a super sub in the NBA.
Could be real good though.
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It's been reported for awhile that we're enamored with Earl Clark.
Apparently he was visiting today.
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2013/07/earl_clark_reportedly_working.html
If we sign him, does anyone think that Tristan Thompson is gone?
He's popped up in a lot of trade talks, and we just drafted a PF #1. Signing another wouldn't really be a good sign.
I hope we don't move Thompson. I mean, if the price is right, sure. But he's had some positive developments. He's still fairly one-dimensional, but his game has grown a lot in a short time.
I thought that Clark played SF for the Lakers?
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It's been reported for awhile that we're enamored with Earl Clark.
Apparently he was visiting today.
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2013/07/earl_clark_reportedly_working.html
If we sign him, does anyone think that Tristan Thompson is gone?
He's popped up in a lot of trade talks, and we just drafted a PF #1. Signing another wouldn't really be a good sign.
I hope we don't move Thompson. I mean, if the price is right, sure. But he's had some positive developments. He's still fairly one-dimensional, but his game has grown a lot in a short time.
I thought that Clark played SF for the Lakers?
Clark is a tweener. Not quite a SF, not quite a PF.
He played PF, SF and C for the Lakers, but he was predominantly a PF, especially under Mike Brown, short as that tenure was.
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Mike Brown coached the Lakers for their first five games (10/30-11/7).
Earl Clark played two total minutes in those games.
Clark thrived in D'Antoni's small ball system.
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Clippers have Paul, Griffin, Jordan, Crawford, Redick, and Dudley with Doc Rivers coaching them. If they can re-sign Matt Barnes they will be a top three seed in the west.
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Also before I forget, another big true center to watch out for next year is Joel Embiid from Kansas. He is a little raw, but can be a dominant center. Just another reason to watch the Jayhawks next year.
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From the PD today, thoughts on Collison, and a possibility at Center? http://www.cleveland.com/sportsnetwork/index.ssf/2013/07/jabaal_sheard_in_new_browns_de.htmlCleveland Cavaliers Brendan Bowers over at Stepien Rules has some thoughts on the Cavaliers in free agency. "Darren Collison Among the backup point guards available this summer, however, Collison has always been the guy I'd love to see the Cavaliers acquire. He would be able to provide a stable NBA veteran presence along with the ability to contribute on a nightly basis. What I also have always liked about Collison, since spending time with him for a SLAM article I wrote on Darren back when he was with the Pacers, is that his commitment to team is real and contagious. I know people attach those type of taglines to guys frivolously, but the way people like Frank Vogel and Roy Hibbert spoke about Collison convinced me those intangibles are real in his case. Collison is a student of the game who spends his free time watching film, which is something I'm sure attracted him to Mike Brown and the Cavs. Though he's struggled some over the last two seasons, he's still a capable starter in this league if needed. At the same time, however, he's also a guy who'd be willing to support Irving in his continued to development and I'd be excited to see Collison land in Cleveland when the free agent dusts eventually settles. Nikola Pekovic With Kevin Love signed long-term, and the prospects of doing the same with Ricky Rubio looming, the Timberwolves can't possibly fit what Pekovic is set to earn on an open market into a salary cap structure that doesn't penalize them mercilessly under the new CBA moving forward. So whether or not Taylor would be willing to match an offer for his restricted free agent, I'm not sure he even can. If the Cavaliers acquired Pekovic, he would have the potential to lock down the center position for the next four years. The 16.3 points and 8.8 rebounds he posted last season would've earned All-Star consideration if the game was still structured to include at least two centers. When the Dwight Howard sweepstakes conclude, however, Pek is likely to be among the contingency plans that teams in need of a center eventually pursue. So while I'd be all for adding a player of his caliber to the equation, I think the price tag will become too much for the Cavs liking regardless of what Minnesota decides to do. "
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Does anybody want Rude Gay? Toronto is having a fire sale.
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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I like rudy gay but toronto has to give us some nice assets to take his contract
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He could be interesting .... depending on what he would cost.
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I like rudy gay but toronto has to give us some nice assets to take his contract
He's got 2 years left at what about 15-16m per? I'm not sure how his contract was structured.
I would explore it, but I don't think that's the smartest move. I don't see us as a player away, and even if we were, I'm not even sure that's the guy.
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I like rudy gay but toronto has to give us some nice assets to take his contract
He's got 2 years left at what about 15-16m per? I'm not sure how his contract was structured.
I would explore it, but I don't think that's the smartest move. I don't see us as a player away, and even if we were, I'm not even sure that's the guy.
If we didn't have the gaping hole at SF I wouldn't even consider it.
I see him as a guy, obviously overpriced (few aren't in the NBA) that can come in and take the scoring pressure off of Kyrie. And maybe help Bennett along.
It's an idea.
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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