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If those are their top two CB's, and their pass rush has to get past our OL.... they are not going to be very happy.
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I see Richard Marshall was cut by Miami. Could he be a guy we would look at ?
http://www.nfl.com/player/richardmarshall/2495894/profile
He's still just 28yo, he used to be pretty solid and Horton has seen and coached him in his best days. I wouldn't be shocked if we consider to bring him in bit probably only if one of our top 4 CBs gets injured. FWIW, I remember him as a much better player than Owens, but who knows, maybe some medical red flags too now
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i wouldn't be surprised to see us bring him in, get as much knowledge on the Dolphins D as we can from him, then cut him during final cutdowns to 53.
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I have heard that Colt Mccoy is not too impressive at 49ers camp. Not surprised, I thought he was a little out of his element trying to back up a super bowl contender.
That's probably true, but where did you hear it?
Safe assumption because the 49ers are talking to Senaca Wallace per NFL radio
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i would love to see what Colt has to say about helping Seneca learn the SF playbook
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Mohamed Massaquoi agrees to terms with N.Y. Jets Desperate Jets! web page The New York Jets can't get Santonio Holmes back on the field, and some within the organization reportedly believe he's milking an injury. Braylon Edwards, signed for depth last month, hasn't practiced all week. Enter some reinforcements. NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports that the Jets agreed to terms with Mohammed Massaquoi on Thursday. Like any mid-August signing, we wouldn't expect Massaquoi to make much of an impact. After all, the receiver-needy Jaguars gave up on Massaquoi only months after handing him $90,000 guaranteed on a two-year contract. Still, this signing is not good news for Edwards' status. He played with the backups during the team's last preseason game, and he hasn't been seen since. We wouldn't be surprised at all if Edwards' career ends this month.
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Not much of a Gil Brandt fan, but at least he's giving some accolades to Weeden and Jordan Cameron, so I thought it should be posted here. web page I just spent 21 consecutive days on the road, visiting 12 NFL training camps and watching one joint practice (between the Atlanta Falcons and Cincinnati Bengals). Needless to say, I soaked up a ton of information. One of the great things about making all those stops is getting to chat up people on various team staffs and finding out which players are rising and falling. At this halfway point of the preseason schedule, I thought I'd put together a list of ascendant players who stood out through my travels and on tape. These guys, all of whom recently entered the league, look primed to take a big step forward and significantly impact their respective teams. They won't necessarily become All-Pros, but they will have a chance to make a difference. 1) Brandon Weeden, QB, Cleveland Browns After suffering through a bumpy rookie season in which he threw more interceptions (17) than touchdown passes (14), Weeden is working with two very good new coaches in head man Rob Chudzinski and offensive coordinator Norv Turner -- and the difference is like night and day. Retooling a quarterback is Turner's cup of tea, and it looks like he's done a great job with Weeden's footwork. The Browns are saddled with average receivers, but Weeden has worked well with his tight ends and running backs, showing great arm strength and ball-handling skills. 2) Julius Thomas, TE, Denver Broncos A former basketball player at Portland State, Thomas didn't do much in his first two seasons with the Broncos, catching one pass while playing in just nine games (including one start). But he's really taken off in the 2013 preseason; against the Seattle Seahawks last Saturday, he was targeted by quarterback Peyton Manning four times -- and came away with four catches for 70 yards. Thomas is a big, athletic player who has shown he can block and be an asset in the receiving game. His size (6-foot-5, 250 pounds) makes him a tough matchup for opposing linebackers and an appealing target for Manning. I think Thomas will beat out veterans Jacob Tamme and Joel Dreessen and slot in as Manning's fourth receiving option. Thomas reminds me of a slightly heavier Shannon Sharpe, someone who could finish the season with around 50 catches and a handful of touchdowns. 3) Chris Givens, WR, St. Louis Rams Givens flashed promise in his debut season of 2012, finishing with 42 catches for 698 yards and three touchdowns while also setting a rookie record by recording a reception of 50 yards or more in five consecutive games. Still, he was mostly limited to running deep routes. This year, he's added underneath patterns to his route tree, and looks to be much better at route-running in general. He also looked excellent while working with quarterback Sam Bradford. Givens is a smart player. If the Rams' offensive line can keep Bradford upright, Givens will have a big year. He's a real "wow" kind of guy when it comes to running after the catch. 4) Michael Brockers, DT, St. Louis Rams Brockers had a rough rookie season in 2012, missing the first three games with a high ankle sprain suffered in the preseason finale. He's gotten a lot stronger, as the shoulder problems that prevented him from lifting last year have been corrected. He's also matured a lot as a person. Brockers has very long arms and is tough to move in run blocking. He's playing lower and looks ready to make a marked improvement over last season. 5) Dontari Poe, DT, Kansas City Chiefs Poe started all 16 games as a rookie in 2012, but he failed to register a single sack; he seemed to be more of a run stuffer than anything. This year, he's lost weight -- he stopped eating barbecue, which is a tough thing to do when you live in Memphis and work in Kansas City -- and looks much better. He's still 330 pounds, but it's a svelte-looking 330 pounds. I was with the Chiefs for two days this offseason, and I saw Poe show very good athletic ability, particularly on one play in which he snagged a batted ball like Bill Russell going up for a rebound. I think he finally found out how good he can be. 6) Michael Floyd, WR, Arizona Cardinals A first-round pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, Floyd started just three games and finished with 45 catches as a rookie. In a conversation with me, Floyd admitted that he was too heavy last year, and that he didn't realize just how good the competition would be in the NFL. He's lost 10 pounds and was grinding at practice -- he even stayed after to work out. I watched him make several outstanding catches. He has a much better quarterback in Carson Palmer than he ever had in 2012. I wouldn't be surprised to see Floyd finish with 70 catches. 7) Chris Polk, RB, Philadelphia Eagles At one point, Polk was projected as a potential second-round pick in the 2012 NFL Draft. But thanks in part to injury concerns, he wound up signing with the Eagles as an undrafted free agent and barely made a dent in his rookie campaign, playing in seven games but failing to record a single stat of note. In camp this year, however, he has looked excellent, showing plenty of receiving and running ability. Against the Carolina Panthers last week, Polk notched five carries for 24 yards. If he can secure a spot behind LeSean McCoy on the Eagles' depth chart, he has a chance to be the kind of second running back that everybody needs. 8) Kyle Long, OG, Chicago Bears The Bears took some heat for making the relatively inexperienced Long the 20th overall pick in April's draft, but he has looked like a solid investment thus far. Long had the fastest 40-yard dash (4.94 seconds) among all guards at the NFL Scouting Combine, and that speed shows when he pulls; just check the tape of the Bears' preseason matchup with the San Diego Chargers. Long is a tough son of a gun who plays with the attacking mentality of a defensive lineman. He also looks like a veteran out there, playing better right now than the two guards drafted before him (Jonathan Cooper, who went seventh overall to the Arizona Cardinals, and Chance Warmack, 10th to the Tennessee Titans). I can't wait to see him match up against big brother Chris, a defensive lineman for the St. Louis Rams, in Week 12. 9) Jordan Cameron, TE, Cleveland Browns Norv Turner loves to use tight ends as receivers, and this bodes well for Cameron, a speedy third-year man with good hands who promises to be a tough matchup. He looked great against the Detroit Lions last Thursday, notching three catches for 42 yards and two scores. 10) Rueben Randle, WR, New York Giants Randle had limited production as a rookie, making just one start and catching 19 passes for 298 yards and three scores. He had a tendency to trap the ball rather than use his hands to catch it, but that has changed. A great athlete with natural ball skills, Randle seems to be doing everything better in 2013. 11) Olivier Vernon, DE, Miami Dolphins Vernon did not start as a rookie last year, but he played in all 16 games, finishing with 3.5 sacks. 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Hey I didn't write the article. And stated that I don't care for Gil Brandt all that much. 
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I don't know. I could see how media would think our receiver corps was average. I mean, average is a huge jump up from where that unit was just 2 seasons ago.
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I have a ton of respect for Gil Brandt, a great football mind, but the "average" comment might be selling us a bit short (particularly if potential is factored in)...
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Perhaps, but potential needs to transfer to talent when it comes to when the lights get turned on. Our receiving corps hasn't exactly shined in the last few years.  But these guys have shown some promise.
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We waived TJ Conley today, so it looks like Lanning is our new punter ... no surprise really.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Browns: Little, Gordon, Bess, Benjamin, +2?
Pats: Amendola, Dobson, Edelman, Thompkins, Boyce, Slater (Browns)
Dolphins: Wallace, Hartline, Gibson, Matthews, Bumphis (Dolphins - slight edge)
Bills: Johnson, Woods, Graham, Goodwin, Smith (Browns)
Jets: Holmes, Hill...just say Browns (Browns)
Ravens: T. Smith, J. Jones, Stokely, Doss, Thomson (Ravens)
Steelers: Brown, Sanders, Cotchery, Wheaton (Browns)
Bengals: Green, Sanu, M. Jones, Tate, Sanzenbacher, Whalen (Browns, as good as Green is)
Colts: Wayne, Hilton, Heyward-Bey, Brazill, Whalen (Browns - also close)
Texans: Johnson, Hopkins, Posey, Jean, Martin (Texans)
Jaguars: Blackmon, Shorts, Mike Brown, Ace Sanders, Toney Clemons (Browns)
Titans: Britt, N. Washington, K. Wright, Kevin Walter, Damian Williams, Justin Hunter (Titans)
Broncos: De. Thomas, Welker, Decker, & Co. (Broncos)
Chargers: Floyd, Royal, V. Brown, K. Allen, Willie (Browns - last 3 very unproven)
Chiefs: Bowe, Avery, McCluster, Wylie (Browns)
Raiders: D. Moore, Streater, Criner, Butler, Ford (Browns)
Eagles: *Maclin, Jackson, Avant, Cooper, D. Johnson (Browns - with injury)
Cowboys: Bryant, Austin, D. Harris, Ter. Williams (Cowboys)
Redskins: Morgan, Garcon, Hankerson, A. Robinson, S. Moss (Browns)
Giants: Nicks, Cruz, Randle, Barden, Murphy, Jernigan (Giants)
Packers: Nelson, Cobb, J. Jones, Boykin, & Co. (Packers)
Bears: Marshall, Jeffrey, Bennett, M. Wilson, Joe Anderson (?) (Bears)
Lions: Megatron, Burleson, Broyles, nobodies (Lions)
Vikings: Jennings, Simpson, Patterson, Jarius Wright, Burton, Webb (Browns - two has-beens and four unprovens)
Falcons: really? (Falcons)
Saints: Colston, L. Moore, Toon, Tanner, Stills (Browns)
Buccaneers: V. Jackson, Mike Williams, Ogletree, 2-3 spots up for grabs (Buccs)
Panthers: S. Smith, Lafell, Ginn, Hixon, A. Edwards (Browns in a close one)
49ers: Boldin, *Crabtree, Kyle Williams, Chad Hall, Collie, Hawkins (Browns with injury)
Seahawks: Rice, G. Tate, Harvin, Baldwin, Kearse, Steve Williams (Seahawks)
Cards: Fitzgerald, M. Floyd, A. Roberts, nobodies (Cards)
Rams: Givens, garbage (Browns)
I have Browns better than 17 teams, 2 because of injuries. That's pretty average. Even if you disagree with a couple teams that's still going to be very close to middle of the road.
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I care less for him now than I did before, Fargo. What a competition: Brayin', MoMass, Holmes . . . . 
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Hey I didn't write the article. And stated that I don't care for Gil Brandt all that much.
I have a ton of respect for Gil Brandt, a great football mind, but the "average" comment might be selling us a bit short (particularly if potential is factored in)...
I'd switch the word 'particularly' with 'only'.
Outside of Bess, who excels in his role, our WR's are average.
Gordon has one year of promising work under his belt, but is trending towards bust status, and Little's been pretty pedestrian.
Now, if you were to ask me if things were going to stay that way...I don't know. I'd say good money's on things trending upward. There's certainly potential.
Little needs to show the improvement he's apparently working hard at, and Gordon needs to prove he can pass a drug test with regularity.
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Gil Brandt has an amazing eye for talent.
Calling this bunch of ,well nobodies that have accomplished nothing,average is quite a compliment.
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I don't know if this has been posted anywhere
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CB Richard Marshall may choose new team today
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Cornerback Richard Marshall may not be unemployed for long. Marshall visited the Jacksonville Jaguars today and may pick a new team as early as today according to Mike Florio of ProFootballTalk.com.
The other rumored finalist for Marshall's services are the San Diego Chargers. The talented corner unexpectedly became a free agent this week when the Miami Dolphins cut him in a salary-related move. Marshall was scheduled to make $4.55 million in base salary in 2013.
Marshall would immediately become a starter in either Jacksonville or San Diego. For that matter, Marshall was actually considered a first-string player in Miami but the Dolphins could not justify keeping him at that salary. Marshall can also play slot corner and safety. In Jacksonville Marshall would be a significant upgrade over Alan Ball and start opposite rookie corner Dwayne Gratz.
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We have the money why not?
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I don't know enough about the guy to have an opinion beyond this:
If he is a sure-fire upgrade over the guys we have now, then we should do it - ASAP.
If it isn't an absolute slam-dunk, then we should roll with the guys we have.
Beyond that: He was in Miami, and the front runners are Jax & San Diego... I have a feeling he isn't exactly wanting to be playing or living in the AFC North.
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I don't know much about this guy. While I look stuff up, is there anything that we know about him that would immediately turn us off to bringing him in (age, health, salary reqs, etc.)?
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Didn't find anything about him, but I did find this. Chargers got him. http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp13/story/_/id/9594922/richard-marshall-san-diego-chargers-agreeHe is 28 years old, has 8 years in the league, and sat out some of last year with back issues.
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In other news... Steelers grabbed Felix Jones. Traded for him, shipping out Adrian Robinson (LB I know nothing about) to the Iggles. http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp13/st...adelphia-eaglesThoughts?
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The Steelers rookie running back is out indefinitely. Felix Jones is not good. I am happy with the move.
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Steelers grabbed Felix Jones. Traded for him, shipping out Adrian Robinson (LB I know nothing about) to the Iggles.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp13/st...adelphia-eagles
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They needed somebody. They got a guy that just signed a one year deal with the Eagles barely 3 months ago.... so, 95 days after signing him, the Eagles were willing to part ways with him in exchange for a no-name linebacker that has accomplished literally nothing in this league.
Looking at the Iggles' depth chart, Felix Jones was fighting for a roster spot.. he was the 4th string RB.
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Yep, desperate times call for desperate measures and Felix Jones is one of those examples.
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he couldn't beat out Dmitrii Patterson for a starting job despite the fact Miami was paying him $5mil no matter if they kept him or not.
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Ouch, I forgot Patterson was there.
When you put it that way...
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Miami fan that sits next to me says he had been in competition with rookie Will Davis for the #2 corner spot (behind Grimes) and they decided to cut him since he was making so much $ and hadn't separated himself from the competition... not that he was necessarily beat out. They also drafted Jamar Taylor from BSU.
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i like will davis (was among his biggest supporters to be drafted and I'm pretty sure I took him in our GM mock), but he's still a mid-round draft pick, so Marshall should be starting ahead of him at the start of the year at the very least. i'm skeptical at least.
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Pats: Amendola, Dobson, Edelman, Thompkins, Boyce, Slater (Browns)
Dolphins: Wallace, Hartline, Gibson, Matthews, Bumphis (Dolphins - slight edge) DISAGREE*
Bills: Johnson, Woods, Graham, Goodwin, Smith (Browns)
Jets: Holmes, Hill...just say Browns (Browns)
Ravens: T. Smith, J. Jones, Stokely, Doss, Thomson (Ravens) DISAGREE*
Steelers: Brown, Sanders, Cotchery, Wheaton (Browns)
Bengals: Green, Sanu, M. Jones, Tate, Sanzenbacher, Whalen (Browns, as good as Green is)
Colts: Wayne, Hilton, Heyward-Bey, Brazill, Whalen (Browns - also close)
Texans: Johnson, Hopkins, Posey, Jean, Martin (Texans)
Jaguars: Blackmon, Shorts, Mike Brown, Ace Sanders, Toney Clemons (Browns)
Titans: Britt, N. Washington, K. Wright, Kevin Walter, Damian Williams, Justin Hunter (Titans) DISAGREE *
Broncos: De. Thomas, Welker, Decker, & Co. (Broncos)
Chargers: Floyd, Royal, V. Brown, K. Allen, Willie (Browns - last 3 very unproven)
Chiefs: Bowe, Avery, McCluster, Wylie (Browns)
Raiders: D. Moore, Streater, Criner, Butler, Ford (Browns)
Eagles: *Maclin, Jackson, Avant, Cooper, D. Johnson (Browns - with injury)
Cowboys: Bryant, Austin, D. Harris, Ter. Williams (Cowboys)DISAGREE *
Redskins: Morgan, Garcon, Hankerson, A. Robinson, S. Moss (Browns)
Giants: Nicks, Cruz, Randle, Barden, Murphy, Jernigan (Giants)
Packers: Nelson, Cobb, J. Jones, Boykin, & Co. (Packers)
Bears: Marshall, Jeffrey, Bennett, M. Wilson, Joe Anderson (?) (Bears)
Lions: Megatron, Burleson, Broyles, nobodies (Lions)
Vikings: Jennings, Simpson, Patterson, Jarius Wright, Burton, Webb (Browns - two has-beens and four unprovens)
Falcons: really? (Falcons)
Saints: Colston, L. Moore, Toon, Tanner, Stills (Browns)
Buccaneers: V. Jackson, Mike Williams, Ogletree, 2-3 spots up for grabs (Buccs)DISAGREE *
Panthers: S. Smith, Lafell, Ginn, Hixon, A. Edwards (Browns in a close one)
49ers: Boldin, *Crabtree, Kyle Williams, Chad Hall, Collie, Hawkins (Browns with injury)
Seahawks: Rice, G. Tate, Harvin, Baldwin, Kearse, Steve Williams (Seahawks)DISAGREE *
Cards: Fitzgerald, M. Floyd, A. Roberts, nobodies (Cards)
Rams: Givens, garbage (Browns)
I have Browns better than 17 teams, 2 because of injuries. That's pretty average. Even if you disagree with a couple teams that's still going to be very close to middle of the road.
I give us 6 more, that's 23 and 7 above average ... JMHO 
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With Geno playing so crappy, Mark playing crappy and now injured - Jets are looking at Matt Lienart LMAO!
Talk about extreme level of desperate. They also be looking at Beck:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/25/jets-to-look-at-leinart-beck/
Ugh.
If I were a Jets fan I'd be begging for a barf icon right about now.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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If news reports are to be believed, Tebow should be available some time this week. Just trying to help, Rex.
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Matt Leinart? Good luck with that.
My friend is a Jets fan and he was trying to tell me how hard it was rooting for them ... I have no sympathy because they've been in two AFC title games recently.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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It'd be hard to root for the Jets, but not just because of how bad they are. They're easily the least likable team in the league, in my opinion.
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It'd be hard to root for the Jets, but not just because of how bad they are. They're easily the least likable team in the league, in my opinion.
I think that would be the eagles.
The reason the jets are unlikeable is because Rex keeps promising superbowl and playoffs every year.
Joe Thomas #73
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I actually don't mind the Eagles. For the simple fact that they're going to be interesting to watch under Chip Kelly. He's going to upset a lot of NFL coaches. They don't like that stuff he ran at Oregon. He starts doing that in the NFL, he's going to upset a lot of people.
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