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Been several articles stating that teammates and friends, etc, didn't feel like Watkins ever really liked playing football, his heart wasn't into it. So no thanks, pass.
CSN Philly's Rueben Frank suspects ex-Eagles first-round pick Danny Watkins' playing days are over.
Based on getting to know Watkins in the locker room, Frank believes the 23rd overall pick in the 2011 draft's "heart was (n)ever in football," and Frank thinks Watkins "doesn't like playing the game." This is probably the best explanation for why a player so highly regarded fell flat on his face in the NFL. We're still interested to see if Watkins gets claimed on waivers. linker
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With KC having some numbers at RB...if they let go of RB Cyrus Gray from Texas A&M...he was talented coming out of college and looked great against the packers a couple nights ago like 10 rushes 80 yards...I do like his speed and cut step (doesn't seem to gear down)
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...the 23rd overall pick in the 2011 draft's "heart was (n)ever in football,"
For the past year or so, I've heard that as well. It would need to be investigated but I'm sure Banner has some special insight into the situation...
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Beenie Wells is still out there as a running back. I think he could be a good back to spell Richardson as his back up. I am very surprised no team has picked him up. Is he hurt?
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Big Phil punked Watkins so bad that he never recovered his confidence.
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I think I've read people speculating about Beanie Wells for 3 straight months. I may be wrong, but if you sign a vet before week 1 their entire salary is guaranteed ... but if you sign them after week 1 it isn't. That may explain why some of them are not being signed. But either way, the NFL is getting younger across the board ... no longer are owners/gms/coaches freely signing anyone that isn't young.
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I'm thinking he (Tebow) has the skill set for longsnapper (with practice). Shame he didn't win more games; he had the Victory Formation kneeldown cold. Shurmur School of Offense Avoidance. 
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j/c...Never gave you a hard time LB...just that you made it sound like the two were cut Nelson n McFadden. Its was a little miss leading.
Yeah I've read a lot about Gurley looking very good even in a SI article about the Browns.
Not sure about OL but I think we should/might/could pick up a Scat Back n ILB from waivers.
Our punter Lansing??? locked up his position I think from his versatile kicking duties as well. We did cut the kid after our game.
Sorry about Nelson but he just couldn't get back fast enough. Hope the kid Gurley sticks...but we will see what happens after Gordon comes back.
I don't think we are desperate for any "STARTERS" which means we will pick up young players with potential n not season veterans who could start.
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With KC having some numbers at RB...if they let go of RB Cyrus Gray from Texas A&M...he was talented coming out of college and looked great against the packers a couple nights ago like 10 rushes 80 yards...I do like his speed and cut step (doesn't seem to gear down)
If released, I would agree that Gray would be a nice pickup. Guys already released that I would consider:
CJ Davis G/T waived by the Broncos - Got some playing time with them last year
DJ Williams TE waived by the Packers - Can't run block to save his life but a very good pass catching TE
Steven Miller Rb waived by the Lions - Explosive kick returner and scat back.
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Was CJ Davis the guard center combo who played at Pitt in college...I remember him being highly touted and an expected 3rd round pick...he fell late or went undrafted...never heard of him since
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Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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Only adding to my point that the preseason is meaningless.
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Slaughter's gone, but I expect we'll stash him on the practice squad.
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Only adding to my point that the preseason is meaningless.
Yes, and no.
He showed good burst and explosion to the hole. That's a good trait in preseason, or not.
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He did go to Pitt but I don't know if that is the same guy. I would imagine so.
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Right now we have no Kicker. lol http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000233304/article/roster-cuts-for-all-32-nfl-teamsCleveland Browns Cuts to 53: OL Aaron Adams, DB Akeem Auguste, K Brandon Bogotay, OL Braxston Cave, LB Justin Cole, RB Jamaine Cook, DL Hall Davis, WR Mike Edwards, TE Dan Gronkowski, WR Tori Gurley, LB James-Michael Johnson, DB Abdul Kanneh, RB Miguel Maysonet, WR David Nelson, DB Kent Richardson, WR Naaman Roosevelt, DL Brian Sanford, P/K Colton Schmidt, S Jamoris Slaughter, LB Justin Staple According to Mary Kay Cabot we also terminated the contract of Shayne Grame as well.
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Maybe we'll use Lanning as a dual threat kicker?  lol
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Obviously not done, but roster looks like this:
QB (3) Weeden, Campbell, Hoyer
RB (2( Richardson, B.Jackson
FB (2) Ogbonnay, Smelley
TE (3) Cameron, K.Davis, Barnidge
WR (4) Little, Bess, Cooper, Benjamine (Gordon suspended so not counted on 53)
OL (12) Thomas, Greco, Mack, Cousins, Schwartz, Lauvao, Pinkston, Shaw, Gilkey, Hauptman, Butler, Wallace
LS (1) Yount
P (1) Lanning
K (ZERO) obviously a move will be made here, unless Lanning will do both kicking and punting
DL (7) Rubin, Taylor, D.Bryant, Winn, Hughes, Kitchen, A.Bryant
LB(10) D'Qwell, Kruger, Robertson, Mingo, Sheard, Fort, Groves, Carder, Hazel, Martin
CB (4) Haden, Owens, Skrine, McFadden
S (4) Ward, Gipson, Bademosi, Aubrey
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Thanks for the summary! Quote:
K (ZERO) obviously a move will be made here, unless Lanning will do both kicking and punting
Chud said in his press conference that we will sign a kicker in the next few days.
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Knew, or figured that, just forgot the gremlin or purple.
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Yeah, I figured that. Just wanted to point it out because others suggested Lanning could do both.
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Only four corners could be dicey. Seems like we will probably pick up another one.
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Agree on the corners. I think we will add a WR, at least until Gordon's suspension is over.
Looking it over we will probably add at least some of the following...
RB, WR, CB, K. With the OL being the main cut area, and possibly Hazel and/or Martin from the LB's.
I think it's Tuesday when you can designate a player as 'IR to return', I still think that will be either Lauvao or Pinkston, unless they go on season ending IR.
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I think I have this right so far
CURRENT ROSTER
Quarterbacks
17 Campbell, Jason QB 6-5 230 31 9 Auburn
6 Hoyer, Brian QB 6-2 215 27 5 Michigan State
3 Weeden, Brandon QB 6-3 220 29 2 Oklahoma State
Running Backs
27 Jackson, Brandon RB 5-10 216 27 6 Nebraska
25 Ogbonnaya, Chris RB 6-0 225 27 4 Texas
33 Richardson, Trent RB 5-9 230 23 2 Alabama
Tight Ends
82 Barnidge, Gary TE 6-5 250 27 6 Louisville
84 Cameron, Jordan TE 6-5 245 25 3 USC
81 Davis, Kellen TE 6-7 265 27 6 Michigan State
47 Smelley, Brad TE 6-2 235 24 1 Alabama
Wide Receivers
80 Benjamin, Travis WR 5-10 175 23 2 Miami (Fla.)
15 Bess, Davone WR 5-10 190 27 6 Hawaii
88 Cooper, Josh WR 5-10 190 24 2 Oklahoma State
12 Gordon, Josh WR 6-3 225 22 2 Baylor
18 Little, Greg WR 6-2 220 24 3 North Carolina
Offensive Lineman
79 Butler, Rashad OL 6-4 310 30 8 Miami (Fla.)
75 Cousins, Oniel OL 6-4 315 29 6 Texas-El Paso
65 Gilkey, Garrett OL 6-6 320 23 R Chadron State
77 Greco, John OL 6-4 315 28 6 Toledo
61 Hauptmann, Caylin OL 6-3 300 22 R Florida International
66 Lauvao, Shawn OL 6-3 315 25 4 Arizona State
55 Mack, Alex OL 6-4 311 27 5 California
62 Pinkston, Jason OL 6-4 305 25 3 Pittsburgh
72 Schwartz, Mitchell OL 6-5 320 24 2 California
74 Shaw, Jarrod OL 6-3 316 25 2 Tennessee
73 Thomas, Joe OL 6-6 312 28 7 Wisconsin
64 Wallace, Martin OL 6-6 305 23 R Temple
Defensive Lineman
95 Bryant, Armonty DL 6-4 265 23 R East Central (OK) University
67 Kitchen, Ishmaa'ily DL 6-1 330 25 2 Kent State
71 Rubin, Ahtyba DL 6-2 330 27 6 Iowa State
98 Taylor, Phil DL 6-3 335 25 3 Baylor
90 Winn, Billy DL 6-4 295 24 2 Boise State
92 Bryant, Desmond DT 6-6 310 27 5 Harvard
93 Hughes, John DT 6-2 320 25 2 Cincinnati
Linebackers
59 Carder, Tank LB 6-2 235 24 2 Texas Christian
58 Fort, L.J. LB 6-0 230 23 2 Northern Iowa
54 Groves, Quentin LB 6-3 265 29 6 Auburn
Hazel, Paul LB 6-5 227 23 R Western Michigan
52 Jackson, D'Qwell LB 6-0 240 29 8 Maryland
99 Kruger, Paul LB 6-4 270 27 5 Utah
51 Mingo, Barkevious LB 6-4 240 22 R LSU
53 Robertson, Craig LB 6-1 234 25 2 North Texas
97 Sheard, Jabaal LB 6-2 255 24 3 Pittsburgh
Defensive Backs
37 Aubrey, Josh DB 5-10 200 22 R Stephen F. Austin
24 Bademosi, Johnson DB 6-0 200 23 2 Stanford
39 Gipson, Tashaun DB 5-11 205 23 2 Wyoming
23 Haden, Joe DB 5-11 190 24 4 Florida
29 McFadden, Leon DB 5-9 195 22 R San Diego State
21 Owens, Chris DB 5-9 180 26 5 San Jose State
22 Skrine, Buster DB 5-9 185 24 3 Tennessee-Chattanooga
43 Ward, T. J. DB 5-10 200 26 4 Oregon
Special Teams
57 Yount, Christian LS 6-1 256 25 3 UCLA
5 Lanning, Spencer P 5-11 200 25 1 South Carolina
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Add Martin, LB, and Gordon doesn't count as one of the 53.
My short, less info, list. 
Obviously not done, but roster looks like this:
QB (3) Weeden, Campbell, Hoyer
RB (2( Richardson, B.Jackson
FB (2) Ogbonnay, Smelley
TE (3) Cameron, K.Davis, Barnidge
WR (4) Little, Bess, Cooper, Benjamine (Gordon suspended so not counted on 53)
OL (12) Thomas, Greco, Mack, Cousins, Schwartz, Lauvao, Pinkston, Shaw, Gilkey, Hauptman, Butler, Wallace
LS (1) Yount
P (1) Lanning
K (ZERO) obviously a move will be made here, unless Lanning will do both kicking and punting
DL (7) Rubin, Taylor, D.Bryant, Winn, Hughes, Kitchen, A.Bryant
LB(10) D'Qwell, Kruger, Robertson, Mingo, Sheard, Fort, Groves, Carder, Hazel, Martin
CB (4) Haden, Owens, Skrine, McFadden
S (4) Ward, Gipson, Bademosi, Aubrey
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Chud said in his press conference that we will sign a kicker in the next few days.
The Bills released Ryan Lindell; is he still available?
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Add Martin, LB, and Gordon doesn't count as one of the 53.
My short, less info, list.
Obviously not done, but roster looks like this:
QB (3) Weeden, Campbell, Hoyer
RB (2( Richardson, B.Jackson
FB (2) Ogbonnay, Smelley
TE (3) Cameron, K.Davis, Barnidge
WR (4) Little, Bess, Cooper, Benjamine (Gordon suspended so not counted on 53)
OL (12) Thomas, Greco, Mack, Cousins, Schwartz, Lauvao, Pinkston, Shaw, Gilkey, Hauptman, Butler, Wallace
LS (1) Yount
P (1) Lanning
K (ZERO) obviously a move will be made here, unless Lanning will do both kicking and punting
DL (7) Rubin, Taylor, D.Bryant, Winn, Hughes, Kitchen, A.Bryant
LB(10) D'Qwell, Kruger, Robertson, Mingo, Sheard, Fort, Groves, Carder, Hazel, Martin
CB (4) Haden, Owens, Skrine, McFadden
S (4) Ward, Gipson, Bademosi, Aubrey
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Carpenter is still out there.
I was just about to post that Carpenter signed with the Jets, but I checked and saw he was cut. Jets decided to stay with Nick Folk. Carpenter should be our target, imo.
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Add Martin, LB, and Gordon doesn't count as one of the 53.
My short, less info, list.
Obviously not done, but roster looks like this:
QB (3) Weeden, Campbell, Hoyer
RB (2( Richardson, B.Jackson
FB (2) Ogbonnay, Smelley
TE (3) Cameron, K.Davis, Barnidge
WR (4) Little, Bess, Cooper, Benjamine (Gordon suspended so not counted on 53)
OL (12) Thomas, Greco, Mack, Cousins, Schwartz, Lauvao, Pinkston, Shaw, Gilkey, Hauptman, Butler, Wallace
LS (1) Yount
P (1) Lanning
K (ZERO) obviously a move will be made here, unless Lanning will do both kicking and punting
DL (7) Rubin, Taylor, D.Bryant, Winn, Hughes, Kitchen, A.Bryant
LB(10) D'Qwell, Kruger, Robertson, Mingo, Sheard, Fort, Groves, Carder, Hazel, Martin
CB (4) Haden, Owens, Skrine, McFadden
S (4) Ward, Gipson, Bademosi, Aubrey
This should be the 1st post on a new thread
Good idea, this thread is 11 pages, so I started a new thread (if it sticks).
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