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hey, that was my 1500 post. It only took 7 years. A mini-mile stone of sorts. Spent it complaining about the refs, imagine that 
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What I diislike about the instant replay rule is that, in the most important part of the game, (the 2 minute warning of both halves) the coaches are helpless to challenge anything. I also dislike the limitations as to what can be challenged. Get a game changing pass interference call and it cannot be challenged. Get a game changing 15 yard "hit to the head of a defenseless receiver" that wasn't a penalty, and it's just too bad.
I don't care if it adds a minute or 2 to the game, I would rather see them get it right. Maybe personal fouls could automatically be reviewed, just like TDs are. That process seems to be pretty seamless now. I am just sick and tired of seeing teams gain 15 yards for no good reason.The officials are so scared of not calling a hit on a players that they call way too many. (except for those on our players)
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Those 15 yard game changers need to be reviewed, same with the spot foul PI. It just can't be up to the refs on the field- they have proven their incompetence time after time. It will take a high profile game with these game changing decisions for anything to be done about it.
There was a boat load of BS in the Seattle v. Stillers "Big Game" a few years ago and it didn't change one darn thing. Rooney's and Kraft are the names that control the NFL & zebra corps.
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Can we replace the existing rulebook with that of about 1985?
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Those 15 yard game changers need to be reviewed, same with the spot foul PI. It just can't be up to the refs on the field- they have proven their incompetence time after time. It will take a high profile game with these game changing decisions for anything to be done about it.
There was a boat load of BS in the Seattle v. Stillers "Big Game" a few years ago and it didn't change one darn thing. Rooney's and Kraft are the names that control the NFL & zebra corps.
yeah, you are correct. Same can be said about the VIkes/Saints game- but that lead to OT rules being tweaked.
So maybe it is one of the NFL darlings that needs to get screwed before something changes.
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thqat defenseless receiver crap has got to go. i understand the helmet to helmet part, but you can't lay a lick on the reciever when he tries to catch it? to me it basically seems like you have to allow him to catch it, which is stupid.
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thqat defenseless receiver crap has got to go. i understand the helmet to helmet part, but you can't lay a lick on the reciever when he tries to catch it? to me it basically seems like you have to allow him to catch it, which is stupid.
Agreed. It's sickening.
There was a game earlier this year, forget who know, where the QB was scrambling and right before he stepped out of bounds he threw the ball. A defender hit him (not leading with helmet, hit QB's midsection with his shoulder) as he was throwing the ball (always a good tactic, messes up the throw) and he got flagged. I remember thinking at the time that it looked like the D has to let the QB throw the ball unimpeded. And now you also have to the receiver catch it.
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After this week, I'd like to see one thing changed. It's impractical and wouldn't work, but if a ref penalizes a team incorrectly and it costs them the game, I'd like to see the record (W-L) corrected.
Like I said, won't happen, but it would be interesting.
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Rule change:
Less equipment. Take away all the excess padding and hard helmets and these guys will wrap and tackle rather than spear, dive, etc. Make the game more about technique and ability.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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There was a game earlier this year, forget who know, where the QB was scrambling and right before he stepped out of bounds he threw the ball. A defender hit him (not leading with helmet, hit QB's midsection with his shoulder) as he was throwing the ball (always a good tactic, messes up the th¡ow) and he got flagged. I remember thinking at the time that it looked like the D has to let the QB throw the ball unimpeded. And now you also have to the receiver catch it.
RGIII has admitted that there have been times when he was approaching the sidelines he has pulled up to try to get the defenders to stop so he could then cut up field for more yardage (says he's seen Vick do it too).. he has also admitted that there have been times where he was planning on running out of bounds but he slows down so the defender can get closer and hit him just as he gets to the line so he can get the penalty...
It would be impossible to make the call, but in my opinion, using the rules deceptively like that to your advantage is worthy of a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty...
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I've been saying in recent years...throw a soft layer on the exterior of the helmet to cushion impact/absorb and dissipate energy
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There was a game earlier this year, forget who know, where the QB was scrambling and right before he stepped out of bounds he threw the ball. A defender hit him (not leading with helmet, hit QB's midsection with his shoulder) as he was throwing the ball (always a good tactic, messes up the throw) and he got flagged. I remember thinking at the time that it looked like the D has to let the QB throw the ball unimpeded. And now you also have to the receiver catch it.
RGIII has admitted that there have been times when he was approaching the sidelines he has pulled up to try to get the defenders to stop so he could then cut up field for more yardage (says he's seen Vick do it too).. he has also admitted that there have been times where he was planning on running out of bounds but he slows down so the defender can get closer and hit him just as he gets to the line so he can get the penalty...
It would be impossible to make the call, but in my opinion, using the rules deceptively like that to your advantage is worthy of a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty...
I know I've seen a couple instances where he benefitted from late-hit calls despite not being out of bounds when he was hit.
With the high incidence of critical errors being made by officials in assessing penalties incorrectly, I see no other option for the NFL except an automatic review of any assessed penalty that results in more than 10 yards against the offending team (which would essentially be personal fouls and defensive PIs). The review should be treated like turnovers and scores...no hurrying to snap the ball to avoid the review. It should also be a booth review...the officials on the field should have no further say in the matter. People will say that it will slow the game too much, but the extra time would be minimal and I'm sure the fans by and large would prefer the calls to be correct.
I'd be interested in knowing what percentage of 15+ yard penalties are assessed against defenses. The overwhelming majority would be my guess, and therein lies the rub: these penalties lead to higher scoring, which the league believes is what the fans want in this era of NFL Red Zone and fantasy football, and they lead to improbable comebacks and controversial wins, which build drama and keep the NFL on the tips of everyone's tongues.
They ought to also keep a pool of on-call officials...grade low enough for a game and you get demoted while the highest-ranked official on call takes your place. You go to the end of the queue where you remain, without pay, until your spot is the first in line and someone gets demoted. There needs to be some additional incentive to do your job competently than "you don't get to ref the Super Bowl this year".
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I've been saying in recent years...throw a soft layer on the exterior of the helmet to cushion impact/absorb and dissipate energy
You want a hard outer shell so‰the helmets slide past each other. If you put a soft outer layer, the helmets and neck will take on most of the force.
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I've been saying in recent years...throw a soft layer on the exterior of the helmet to cushion impact/absorb and dissipate energy
You want a hard outer shell so the helmets slide past each other. If you put a soft outer layer, the helmets and neck will take on most of the force.
soft outer layers will simply shred with the repeated impacts. Lineman would be going through several outer shells per game.
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I've been saying in recent years...throw a soft layer on the exterior of the helmet to cushion impact/absorb and dissipate energy
You want a hard outer shell so the helmets slide past each other. If you put a soft outer layer, the helmets and neck will take on most of the force.
soft outer layers will simply shred with the repeated impacts. Lineman would be going through several outer shells per game.
Additionally, there are anti-friction coatings that should resolve the issue...
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