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Hmmm, I was literally just thinking ADD for him. It could also just be his eyes.... or, he might also just be hearing footsteps.
Whatever it is, if these coaches can get him past this one hurdle, he'll be a phenomenal #2 WR. That's a big IF, however. It wasn't last season (2012) in that second half, so who knows? Maybe something in his personal life was eating at him this year and he just couldn't keep focused?
I have no idea, but he HAS shown that he CAN do it with consistency. Maybe it's simply as easy as who was throwing to him and how?
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Hmmm, I was literally just thinking ADD for him. It could also just be his eyes.... or, he might also just be hearing footsteps.
Whatever it is, if these coaches can get him past this one hurdle, he'll be a phenomenal #2 WR. That's a big IF, however. It wasn't last season (2012) in that second half, so who knows? Maybe something in his personal life was eating at him this year and he just couldn't keep focused?
I have no idea, but he HAS shown that he CAN do it with consistency. Maybe it's simply as easy as who was throwing to him and how?
Well, if all goes as I plan (funny, me planning LOL) he'll be receiving passes from Hoyer for this year and maybe, just maybe a stud we draft after that.
Maybe some consistency at QB will help. one can hope right?
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you know whats crazy, he has his fair share of drops his first season, but he wasn't nearly as bad catching and was a beast when he had Colt throwing it too him.
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It always strikes me as a little funny when I hear a guy is a good Wide Receiver but he can't catch the ball.
It's like being a good QB who can't pass the ball accurately.
Kinda odd.
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I didn't wanna spurt out the obvious, but you've just done it for me...  I'm rooting for Greg to be off this team, it's no secret. But... it would be "intriguing" to see how Pettine would handle him after the same effects as he displayed last year. The constant drops and such. If Greg stays, I am 99% sure he'll put Pettine's "we'll hold players accountable" and the "grading scale and constant judgement" to the test.
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It always strikes me as a little funny when I hear a guy is a good Wide Receiver but he can't catch the ball.
It's like being a good QB who can't pass the ball accurately.
Kinda odd.
However, just as a QB can learn to improve his accuracy, a WR can learn to use his hands more consistently. Little actually was consistent for half a season in 2012, where he caught damn near everything. I think he can do it, now he just has to do it.
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Posting this not because it is a former Browns head coach, but because I just think it's a cool sequence of moves: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...ght-ends-coach/Quote:
Eric Mangini will reportedly have a new role on the 49ers’ coaching staff.
Mangini, who was a senior offensive consultant with San Francisco in 2013, will coach the club’s tight ends in 2014, Matt Barrows of the Sacramento Bee reported Thursday.
Reggie Dunn, who coached the 49ers’ tight ends the last three seasons, will fill the club’s vacancy at assistant offensive line coach, the Bee reported.
Mangini is in his second season with the 49ers. He was the Jets’ head coach from 2006 through 2008 and the Browns’ head coach from 2009 through 2010.
I always thought that to really know offense, you had to know defense, and vice versa. It was pretty cool last year when Mangini was some type of advisor on *offense*, where apparently he would come up with ways to try to confuse/de-rail the offense based on his experience as a defensive coordinator. Coaches get too pigeonholed into only running certain schemes, or more broadly only being able to coach one side of the ball. I can see Mangini working his way up to being an offensive coordinator this time and getting a 3rd head coaching gig based on his success at doing that.
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Love Mangini or hate him, you have to admit, he's a talented coach. Just perhaps not a HC.
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Love Mangini or hate him, you have to admit, he's a talented coach. Just perhaps not a HC.
The situation he had here was nucelar, part of that was his own fault, but the players on the team he inherited weren't. Between Kokonis, Edwards, Winslow it was just a horrible situation. Then he drafted horrendously because he was the GM and shouldn't have been.
Kokonis had "Issues", I'm not at liberty to give specifics but I think it was fairly obvious. Just a disaster all around. I thought he did a pretty good job coaching up scrubs like Evan Moore and getting the most out of guys like Harrison and Cribbs, strictly from a coaching perspective.
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The situation he had here was nucelar, part of that was his own fault, but the players on the team he inherited weren't. Between Kokonis, Edwards, Winslow it was just a horrible situation. Then he drafted horrendously because he was the GM and shouldn't have been.
Kokonis had "Issues", I'm not at liberty to give specifics but I think it was fairly obvious. Just a disaster all around. I thought he did a pretty good job coaching up scrubs like Evan Moore and getting the most out of guys like Harrison and Cribbs, strictly from a coaching perspective.
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I don't think anyone really questions that he walked in to a tough situation. But I think he could have handled it better also. I've heard of some information about the Kokanis thing but probably not the whole truth.
Didn't Mangini bring him in?
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Love Mangini or hate him, you have to admit, he's a talented coach. Just perhaps not a HC.
The situation he had here was nucelar, part of that was his own fault, but the players on the team he inherited weren't. Between Kokonis, Edwards, Winslow it was just a horrible situation. Then he drafted horrendously because he was the GM and shouldn't have been.
Kokonis had "Issues", I'm not at liberty to give specifics but I think it was fairly obvious. Just a disaster all around. I thought he did a pretty good job coaching up scrubs like Evan Moore and getting the most out of guys like Harrison and Cribbs, strictly from a coaching perspective.
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I don't think anyone really questions that he walked in to a tough situation. But I think he could have handled it better also. I've heard of some information about the Kokanis thing but probably not the whole truth.
Didn't Mangini bring him in?
IIRC he was Mangini's guy. Bernie told me what really happened with Kokonis but told me not to say anything, so I won't, but if you read between the lines you can figure it out. Reality wasn't far from speculation RE: Kokonis and his exit.
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Then he drafted horrendously because he was the GM and shouldn't have been.
Not going to beat a dead horse but how much of that statement is really Kokinos drafted terribly.
On Kokinos - yes he hand picked him and Randy agreed - why not he had the credentials. Ernie Accorsi had done a consulting report for the falcons owner the season before listing 3 bright up n comer. Dimitri from Pats, Heckert from Philly and Kokinos from Ravens. Accorsi happened also to be a friend of Randy they often had lunch in Manhatten.
So when Mangini stated this was his guy to work together...I think they had been room mates in Cleveland while working for BB. And this was their dream...to work together in this very capacity.
Why I state Kokinos' draft or Mangini. Mangini was busy putting a staff together re-organizing a lot on the team. Inside and out. I think for that first season he was relying heavily on his trusted friend to do 95% of the work for the draft. He n his coaches were busy looking at film of all the players and worked from that. Eventually I'm sure they worked on the draft pretty late but the board is usually done before the combine...which meant Kokinos made the board.
Just saying. Year two might have been a different case...but there really wasn't a year two.
Kokinos flaked out and was fired within months of the season. I'm sure Mangini tried to cover for his buddy but it just was a bad turn of events and pretty much was the last straw for Randy...as he fired himself and hired Holmgren.
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I thnk he was referring to Mangini drafted horrendously.... Not Kokanis!
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It was more than just a flake out. He was not there, like at all. Hard to get my point across without saying it, but he might have been present, but he was not there.
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??? My point was how much of that draft was Mangini's fault rather than the incompetence by Kokinos who left the draft in his hands while he was organizing the staff and players end of a new regime.
BPG...I know pretty much what went on. I also think Mangini didn't point one finger at Kokinos - yeah he flaked out without getting specific. I'm curious on the Girl that got fired I don't think there was a connection but I always wondered why she was fired. I think she was sending out her resumes or something of that nature???
But my point was the draft class of 08 was terrible but how much was that indicative of Mangini in control...or Kokinos out of control.
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Oh,, Ok, I misread your post,, sorry
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??? My point was how much of that draft was Mangini's fault rather than the incompetence by Kokinos who left the draft in his hands while he was organizing the staff and players end of a new regime.
BPG...I know pretty much what went on. I also think Mangini didn't point one finger at Kokinos - yeah he flaked out without getting specific. I'm curious on the Girl that got fired I don't think there was a connection but I always wondered why she was fired. I think she was sending out her resumes or something of that nature???
But my point was the draft class of 08 was terrible but how much was that indicative of Mangini in control...or Kokinos out of control.
Just saying.
Impossible to know and I'm sure Mangini will never tell. It was just all around a terrible situation. My gut says that had we hired Dimitrov and Mangini, Mangini would probably still be here.
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I'm curious on the Girl that got fired I don't think there was a connection but I always wondered why she was fired. I think she was sending out her resumes or something of that nature???
It was always my supposition that the two of them got caught getting busy in his office.
Absolutely zero evidence. I have never heard a rumor from anyone with any knowledge. That is just the way it played out in my warped mind.
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Dimitrov went to the Falcons only Kokinos and Heckert from that list Accorsi made for the Falcons were left...I quoted the list cause it was on record. Accorsi and Randy having lunch often in the City is on record as well as them being friends. I just put 2 n 2 together to assume that Randy had high regard for Kokinos from Accorsi and when Mangini said that was his guy that they had been wanting to work together since they were young men with the Browns - Randy was like great and possibly why he hired Mangini quickly cause of the staff. Yeah I agree if Mangini had that good GM he would have done well. I was hoping he n Heckert could get together with one goal but not the case.
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