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Marla Ridenour is a muckraker in the worst possible sense pure and simple. If she had any integrity as a journalist she would obviously be writing about the positives about keeping Farmer...but that was never her intention in the first place..She was just hired or paid to write slander and fan the flames.
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I think Grossi actually believes he knows more about football and what is good for the Browns than the FO does. Not just this FO, but multiple regimes.
I also think he really holds a grudge when they don't share all their innermost secrets w/him. He was brutal w/Belichick and others.
I really think the job got to his head. He is an egomaniac of epic proportions and is very jaded in his viewpoints.
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I think Grossi actually believes he knows more about football and what is good for the Browns than the FO does. Not just this FO, but multiple regimes.
Who doesn't? You yourself said you'd be done with them if they decide that Carr is the QB they want. What's the difference? Everyone has an opinion, but who says "this is my opinion but I don't think it's right because the people in charge think something else"?
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The difference? I am just some schmuck on a message board . Grossi is a paid professional w/hundreds of thousands of readers.
I have written professional educational articles before. Believe me, what I say in those and what I say when talking to other teaches are two different things.
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Makes sense. I agree with the premise. He's editorializing where he should be reporting.
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j/c For all those who follow Grossi and others Browns FO is toxic... Ray Farmer passed up the Dolphins GM job because Cleveland Browns are poised to "redefine the history books'' By Mary Kay Cabot Quote:
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Browns assistant general manager Ray Farmer, viewed as a rising star by his bosses, passed up a chance to become general manager of the Dolphins last month because he's confident the Browns are poised to take off.
"I think Cleveland is primed and I think we're in a position to redefine the history books,'' Farmer told cleveland.com. "I think change is on the horizon and I didn't want to miss what's going to happen in Cleveland.''
Farmer, 39, was a finalist for the Dolphins GM job which ultimately went to former Bucs director of player personnel Dennis Hickey. The Dolphins wanted Farmer to interview a second time, and if he did, he likely would've gotten the job. The Miami Herald identified Farmer early on as the frontrunner for the job.
"I didn't finish the process,'' said Farmer. "I assume they would've given me the job. That's the way it was articulated to me. If I took the job, I would've reported directly to (Dolphins owner) Stephen Ross and it was a tremendous opportunity. It still is a dream of mine to become a general manager and run my own program and put together my own team, but it wasn't the right time for me.
"I knew what I had here. I know what I think is going to happen here, and I know what we have in place. So to that degree, the known is better than the unknown.''
Farmer, who joined the Browns in March after seven seasons as the Chiefs director of pro personnel, stressed that the Browns didn't promise him a promotion to stay.
"No, and I would've balked at that,'' he said. "I will never hunt anyone's job that I work with. That's not what I'm inclined to do. I'm not really motivated by money, and I'm not motivated by power. For me, it's more predicated on what can I learn from the people that I'm with to make myself better in the long run.''
Besides, Farmer has developed a close, working with relationship with general manager Mike Lombardi, and would never do anything to jeopardize that.
"I love Mike Lombardi,'' said Farmer. "A lot of people in this city don't, but those people don't know him. He's one of my dearest friends at this point. He's intelligent, he's smart, he's witty, he challenges me every day to be better, so I like where I'm at and I like him. There are no assurances in the NFL and coming off a 4-12 season people are skeptical, people don't understand why some decisions were made inside the building, but again I think inevitably, I trust the process we're going through.''
Browns CEO Joe Banner also said he didn't have to persuade Farmer to stay.
"No, he turned down the job primarily because he's extremely happy here and he's extremely optimistic and he enjoys the people he's working with,'' said Banner. "He'd have to find exactly the right situation because he'd be leaving something that he's very, very happy with.''
Banner re-iterated that the Browns were lucky to keep him.
"We've previously called him a rising star in the league and I still believe that,'' said Banner. "I'm not surprised that other people are recognizing it. He's extremely hard-working, smart, totally trustworthy loyal and a great evaluator. He understands the elements of character, personality and drive (in prospects) and he integrates them into the grading of what you see on the film.''
Farmer said the things that initially drew him to Cleveland are some of the same reasons he stayed.
"First and foremost I'd say that (owner) Jimmy Haslam for me is phenomenal,'' Farmer said. "He's one of the main reasons I chose to come to Cleveland. Joe Banner is a confidante of mine and treats me in a way that a lot of people might've second-guessed. I could go on and on whether it's Alec (Scheiner) our president or Sashi Brown (executive vice president) -- I have so much respect and trust for the people I'm working with and their ability to produce a winning team. Ultimately that's on the horizon and that's why I want to be here.''
Banner said Farmer's decision to stay is consistent with other top employees choosing Cleveland over other destinations -- and is contrary to the national perception of the Browns during the coaching search. NFL Network quoted an anonymous source as saying the Browns job was "radioactive'' and it became the mantra of the search in the national and local media for 25 days.
"The voice of one became the voice that got quoted in every story that was written,'' said Banner. "It had nothing to do with reality. Some of the most desirable people in all of sports have come to Cleveland since Jimmy and I took over, including Rob Chudzinski, Norv Turner, Ray Horton, Mike Pettine, Alec Scheiner and Sashi Brown. Players like Des Bryant and Paul Kruger chose us over others cities, not to mention all of the people that desperately wanted this head coaching job. The evidence -- which nobody wanted to bother with -- is that this is an extremely desirable place and all of the actions by so many people are proof of that.''
Farmer said he ignored the persistent chatter of Berea as a toxic workplace.
"People in Cleveland have their issues with the Browns and some people say rightfully so,'' he said. "Some people would say it's new regime, time to give them a new, clean slate. But I didn't come to Cleveland to re-live the negative history. I came to help write a new chapter. I think that's why a lot of us came here.''
Despite Farmer's star status within the walls of Berea, Banner has no plans to make him a face or voice of the team. Likewise, Lombardi is still being kept off limits.
"I've never seen a sports team have more than one voice other than the head coach that speaks for the organization,'' Banner said. "That's what we do in Cleveland, but somehow that's become controversial. Teams don't put out multiple layers of people and usually the media doesn't want to speak to anybody other than the kind of decision-makers and as high up in the organization as they can get -- so no, Ray won't be any more of a public face than he's been.''
He said the local media calls for Lombardi "because they want to bash Mike. You'd like to think people would rise above that, but it just doesn't happen. I never heard of the media that can speak to the higher level executive or to the lower level executive and they're clamoring to speak to the lower level executive.''
Nevertheless, he said Farmer and Lombardi have a great working relationship and that the personnel department and coaching staff are working hard to prepare for free agency and the upcoming critical draft, one that features the No. 4 and No. 26 overall picks in the first round.
"I feel very good about it and I feel good about the work that's been done the last four months that will be the foundation for us making good choices,'' he said.
Farmer's decision to stay instead of taking the GM job was even supported by the Fritz Pollard Alliance, who's mission is to place minority candidate in high level NFL coaching and personnel jobs. Fritz Pollard Chairman John Wooten, the former Browns guard, helped the Dolphins identify Farmer as a candidate and encouraged him to interview a second time.
"Ray is extremely ready to be a GM in the NFL,'' said Wooten. "But he feels good about what's going in Cleveland, and we're happy that Ray is going to be there to help the Browns get back to being one of the premier teams in the NFL. We would've loved to see him become the GM of the Dolphins and he would've been tremendous, but Ray is a man of character and integrity, and he loves what they're doing there. We respect and support the decision.''
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I don't know why this matters.
But I had no idea he was black.
And I think that's a great thing. I'll be the first to tell you that I think the Rooney Rule is stupid, people should be able to hire and interview whomever they want etc.
But I think the fact that I'm JUST NOW finding out he's black is the best part, because that means it was never a focal point to begin with..
Or maybe I just don't pay enough attention..
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You're right; it doesn't. Black, white, or a color in between, it's performance that counts...
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I came to post this, but you beat me to it.
While it's easy to say that this article is just the latest fluff piece from MKC, I'm relieved somebody finally wrote this article. It isn't a reach to question the main point of the article (a top employee stayed with the Browns despite having a higher opportunity elsewhere), but most of the other articles out there are way over the top in slamming the Browns FO.
It's telling that this piece probably won't see much face time, especially outside Cleveland. The possibility that a team is more dysfunctional than the Browns probably doesn't fit into the ESPN story. I'm not going to go full Vers' but his point about the FO getting too much flack is understandable.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
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Mary Kay also did a Farmer piece on the Home Page I think??? Pretty much saying some of the same things....what struck me the most was his thoughts on Lombardi...the guy genuinely like Lombardi a lot and thinks he is gifted.
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Mary Kay also did a Farmer piece on the Home Page I think??? Pretty much saying some of the same things....what struck me the most was his thoughts on Lombardi...the guy genuinely like Lombardi a lot and thinks he is gifted.
That's what I found very interesting. He basically also said that everyone has an opinion on him, but none of them even know him.
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"The evidence -- which nobody wanted to bother with -- is that this is an extremely desirable place and all of the actions by so many people are proof of that.''
Banner really doesn't make himself easy to like. He seems to always find a way to get a shot in on the fans and media and make backhanded remarks like this. I guess if this FO starts showing us a winner, I can take it with a grain of salt. But, as of right now, they've proven nothing and he speaks in a very condescending manner.
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Mary Kay also did a Farmer piece on the Home Page I think??? Pretty much saying some of the same things....what struck me the most was his thoughts on Lombardi...the guy genuinely like Lombardi a lot and thinks he is gifted.
How can such a talented talent evaluator, Farmer, see talent in such a non talented talent evaluator, Lombardi? Sorry Farmer, but history is against you. Lombardi has been an abject failure his entire career. I'd be carefully hitching your team to his wagon. Or just ask Lombardi who he likes in each round, then pick against it.
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I am not going to make a big deal about this, but I have been saying that the FO is getting way too much flak.
I think things have been exaggerated, misconstrued, and overblown.
I am NOT saying I am sold on them. Not at all. I'm just saying we should maybe watch it unfold a bit longer before drawing any final conclusions.
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Vers, I totally agree. I'm not sold on these guys just yet. At least they shown they have a plan. Whether this plan works is a different story.
I am just tired of media reporting all these issues in the FO, because they didn't follow some untold made up rules. The media is never held accountable. They print opinions as facts. When the truth is told, you hear nothing from them stating they were wrong. The last thing that irritates is fans following this num-nutts as truth! smh
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It's because that is what they want to believe. Look at the other threads.
It's not about finding the truth, it's about furthering their opinions.
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I'm not sold on these guys just yet. At least they shown they have a plan. Whether this plan works is a different story.
Would that be last years plan or this years plan?
So far, two years, two plans.......
I'm not sure that's a plan at all.
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Would that be last years plan or this years plan?
So far, two years, two plans.......
I'm not sure that's a plan at all.
Nothing I say will make you change your mind. You dislike this group from the beginning.
You believe it is a train wreck. I believe they made a mistake and looking to fix it. I don't see a major change in the plan. The root objective how they want to build this team is still in place.
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There's nothing out there with which to "change anyone's mind". No evidence of success.
I simply hope they picked the right guys and will actually stick with someone long enough to develop some continuity.
But let me ask you, what is this "plan" they have to build the team? And what FO hasn't been here with a "plan" to build a great team?
I'm not saying this is doomed to fail. I just don't see the positive vibes some seem to emulate with "Banner/Lombardi 2.0".
I see one year down the tubes and a re-boot. Sorry if that doesn't make me all tingly and giddy for a positive attitude.
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Pitt, come on.
There is no positive agenda in my post. I'm simply giving these guys a chance. It does nothing to rag on them because nothing will change unless Haslam sells.
As for the plan, I got to be nuts to bite, but here is how I see it:
They want an aggressive defense and offense. They want smart individuals who don't know the meaning of the word quit.
Pettine defense schemes are in line with Horton. Pettine may not blitz as much Horton, but he does believe in pressure the QB. He does not use Jauron's read and react schemes.
Schanahan schemes are not that far off from Turner. Kyle prefers to use more a run game and incorporates a little more WCO, but he still likes to throw the ball down field.
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I'm not saying this is doomed to fail. I just don't see the positive vibes some seem to emulate with "Banner/Lombardi 2.0".
You criticize them on every post you make. You would rather be right than have the Browns win. It's obvious!
And who is being so positive? Tell me! Or, are you saying that people who are willing to give them a chance before proclaiming them a success or failure overly positive? 
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You criticize them on every post you make. You would rather be right than have the Browns win. It's obvious!
This is a blatant lie and everyone who knows me, knows it is. The success of the Browns is first in my book. You need to quit acting like anyone who is not a believer after a re-boot in only one season "isn't a real fan". Your non sense is getting old.
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Funny thing..... When they hand picked their coaching staff last year, I liked the direction. I believed they had good people, made good hires and we would see some continuity.
That wasn't "giving them a chance"? I like their FA signings and thought it would help with the 3-4. That wasn't giving them a chance? Yet that really didn't change much did it?
Yet after one year we see a total re-boot in the coaching staff. A year wasted. We saw that before with Mangini and Holmgren and you were all over it like white on rice.
Yet now it's so different with you. Hmmmm.......
After the entire coaching debacle, I just want to see some proof before I give away anymore "free chances". I want to see some evidence they got it right in their second coaching hires in a year. Gun shy? Maybe. But so far the evidence isn't favorable.
But I see nothing is beneath you. Trying to insinuate me "being right" is more important than my team winning shows your true colors. You'll say anything to try to make people who disagree with you look bad. You are who many thought you were.
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Would that be last years plan or this years plan?
So far, two years, two plans.......
I'm not sure that's a plan at all.
Well, in reality they seem to be following through on their first plan. They hired a 3-4 DC instead of a 4-3 DC which was a major move in continuing a plan. For example the Pats have had a few OC's since Brady, but they've been running the same offense, which has really helped Brady. But yeah, they did screw the pooch on the personnel, but it seems like they're following through on the philosophies.*
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I will stand by my claim that it is obvious. Your walk is more telling than your talk.
Your talk that life long fans are more concerned with being right than the success of the Browns says it all. Nonsense.
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You should see it....a bad right hip and a bad left knee.
Just kidding Pit. You know I love you, in a non Homo way.
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Every single post you make is negative in regards to the FO. You never ever stop. And then you criticize others who are willing to give them a chance and call them overly optimistic.
I could care less if you like them or not. But, I will make my own decisions and I don't need the likes of you to tell me how to think.
And I don't care what you say about the being right thing. You slipped up earlier when the emotions were running high. You said that I was worried about being proven wrong when Chud was fired. That told me all I needed to know about your mindset. I think you are a fraud. Period.
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I was concerned about switching schemes on D. I'm certainly glad they didn't do that.
With the O, I think you have to tailor your O around your QB. That or draft a QB that fits your O. So on that note, since the QB position is yet to be determined, I wasn't as nearly concerned about that part of things.
So I do see what you're saying to that degree. These D's have the same base, but everything else will be different. The shake up could have been much worse, but an entire new coaching staff is a "do over". If they don't hit a home run in the draft, nothing will really change much.
Let's just hope that happens.
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Now that we have effectively ignored the article in which Farmer says he wanted to stay w/the Browns and he thinks we have a bright future.................does anyone else want to get back to the topic? Or are we going to allow Pit and others to turn the attention away from the actual facts?
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I have never told you or anybody else "what to think". that is in your own mind. And exactly what is "the likes of me"?
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Verse, knowing how you address others who disagree with you, just like you're doing here, you are the last person who I give a damn about on this board. When you talk football, you are a very good poster.
But you can't leave it at that. you have some deep seeded need to carry on with personal insults and degrading those who disagree with you. Like a politician in a football discussion.
You're a joke. You have said repeatidly that "you will fight me and others" who disagree with your views on the FO. Fight, really?
Get a grip bud.
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I think Farmer is poised to be more than a assistant GM. He's bright and takes his football very seriously.
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I thought the same thing. I was thinking he would be given more power and Lombardi would have some of his power removed.
Not sure about that after reading the article.
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Not sure about that after reading the article.
I'm pretty sure that he'll be given some leeway in a selection or two. His input may actually be the overriding factor on some later round picks.
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I Like the man. I like the videos with him on the official website... as you said, seems to take the game serious! 
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Not sure about that after reading the article.
I still think that is the case, maybe not right away. I have nothing concrete to go on either just deduction on my part.
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You guys have taken over two threads. Isn't this argument you guys are having the exact reason private messaging is available to us?
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Legend
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Legend
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A cynical mind might wonder if someone was attempting to divert attention away from the MKC article that was based on fact and shift things back to rampant speculation.
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