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I think the consensus thing was more in regards to evaluating talent, whether it be guys currently on their roster, free agents, or guys in the draft. I think they all discussed all of those things.
It's pretty evident that Banner had final say on making moves, such as trades and the like and that Chud had final say over who is cut and who plays. I think part of the problem between the FO and Chud was that Banner/Lombardi didn't really agree w/how Chud was keeping/cutting and who played and who sat.
I am not saying they were right. I'm not saying they were wrong.
What I am saying is that I think the GM should acquire the players w/input from the coaching staff.
I think the coaching staff should choose who is on the roster w/some input from the GM and the coaching staff should have total control over who plays.
We saw first hand what could happen if the GM has total control over the roster when Phil Savage was here. It wasn't pretty.
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Whisenhunt said, “Why didn’t you guys hire me last year?’’
The Browns’ CEO who was in both interviews, Joe Banner, told Whisenhunt he didn’t think the staff he was putting together at the time was “a championship coaching staff.”
Whisenhunt, one NFL source said, was peeved that a man who had never coached and who’d been involved in football mainly on the business side would sit in judgment of his potential coaches.
“Who are you to tell me what makes up a championship coaching staff?” Whisenhunt said, with an edge in his voice.
WOW...I would have loved to be in on the interview with Whisenhunt and hear him challenge Banner.
I can imagine how embarrassed Haslam was at that moment...but, if that is what it took to finally convince Haslam that Banner had to go, I'm glad it happened.
Haslam was a fool for hiring Banner to run the football side of the Browns...it was Haslam's first and worst mistake as an new NFL owner.
Haslam is going to be criticized by many who don't have a clue as to why this had to be done if the franchise is going to begin building a winner in Cleveland.
When I first heard that Whisenhunt was "re-interviewing" I wondered "WHY"?
After reading that I now know why, and imo it wasn't to be the HC of The Cleveland Browns.
Classic. 
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cal...many do not know of Banner's history in Philly. I could see the train wreck coming and it was about to get much worse, had Banner and Lombardi been allowed to run the upcoming draft.
I like the guy we now have...he comes from a football background, as a players and his experience in management is on the football side. I did hear something about a management guy from KC coming into to work under Farmer...that should help.
Mac, a lot of us knew. You aren't the only one that felt that way about Banner when hired. Lots of us were uncomfortable with him and didn't think he had a clear history of making player decisions. Meaning who to draft, who to retain etc,.
He was a money guy and a business guy in Philly. And while that's important, it's not what you want in a Football Executive.
But I have to admit, some of the moves they made since the beginning of camp were decent. In fact I was warming to them until the firing of Chud, they I started questioning everything.. The deal for TRich looks to be the deal of the century. Bringing in Hoyer,, wow, who knew he'd be decent in the little we saw him.'
Maybe the biggest move was a NON move.. They didn't trade Gordon.
But this latest debacle with Chud (which of course might have been haslam for all we know) just was the tipping point for me.
I'm shocked, surprised and happy that Haslam made these moves yesterday.. I wasn't expecting that to happen
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