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4. TRADE Minnesota Vikings - Khalil Mack, DE, Buffalo

Minnesota trades picks 8, 72, 96, 108 and a second-round pick in 2015 to the Browns for the fourth overall pick


8. TRADE Cleveland Browns - Blake Bortles, QB, UCF

Minnesota trades picks 8, 72, 96, 108 to the Browns for the fourth overall pick

After trading down, the Browns still manage to land the quarterback of their choice. Who exactly the quarterback of their choice will be is anyone's guess since they didn't attend any pro days. The safe bet is on Blake Bortles, who is considered by most to have the highest upside of any quarterback in this class. While we prefer Teddy Bridgewater, the NFL seems to prefer Bortles.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/2...n=articlebottom


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Geez,, I read that and thought it was something that had just happened.. Damn, can you warn us next time LOL


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I read that mock, they had us taking the OG out of Notre Dame at #26... but it was only a first round mock so it didn't say anything beyond that.. but if we could pull that off, I'd do it in a heartbeat.


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Sorry, I was excited about all those extra picks, especially the 2015 2nd round.


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Sorry, I was excited about all those extra picks, especially the 2015 2nd round.




Damn man,, you need something to calm you down LOL

I got kinda excited also.. In one sense, look at all those picks,, yikes.. On the other hand, who are we passing on at 4?

Anyway,, it's no biggie...


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4. TRADE Minnesota Vikings - Khalil Mack, DE, Buffalo

Minnesota trades picks 8, 72, 96, 108 and a second-round pick in 2015 to the Browns for the fourth overall pick


8. TRADE Cleveland Browns - Blake Bortles, QB, UCF

Minnesota trades picks 8, 72, 96, 108 to the Browns for the fourth overall pick

After trading down, the Browns still manage to land the quarterback of their choice. Who exactly the quarterback of their choice will be is anyone's guess since they didn't attend any pro days. The safe bet is on Blake Bortles, who is considered by most to have the highest upside of any quarterback in this class. While we prefer Teddy Bridgewater, the NFL seems to prefer Bortles.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/2...n=articlebottom




Interesting. Cleveland moves back 4 spots and gets a two 3rds and a 4th this year, plus a 2nd next year (so, equivalent to 3 thirds and a 4th) to slide back?

Hmm, I like Mack a lot but let me ponder this. That's a 5:1 swap with 3 of them being 3rd round this year equivalents? That's tempting. Very tempting and I like Mack very much. It would take me some time, maybe the full time, to make that decision.

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IMO, if Minnesota does that deal, the Minnesota GM should be fired.

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That would be a Zygi Wilf move, nobody else. How easy is it to fire an owner?

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The latest mock draft from Daniel Jeremiah/NFL.com:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts/daniel-jeremiah/200850

It has us picking Sammy Watkins as our first pick. Wouldn't surprise me.

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If they trade up to 4, It's for a QB.


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The latest mock draft from Daniel Jeremiah/NFL.com:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts/daniel-jeremiah/200850

It has us picking Sammy Watkins as our first pick. Wouldn't surprise me.




1. Mocks that are only the 1st round are boring.

2. Getting both Watkins AND Bridgewater? Uh yeah sure, I'll take that... I'm actually not that big on taking Watkins, I'd rather Mack or a small trade down...


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In one sense, look at all those picks

Of course you did open a thread with the word "MOCK" in it.



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Mary Kay has the inside scoop as usual

Browns | Interest in two players for draft

Sun, 13 Apr 2014 22:57:59 -0700

The two players that most interest the Cleveland Browns at the fourth pick are Clemson WR Sammy Watkins and Auburn OT Greg Robinson, and the team could trade down if neither is available.

Source: The Cleveland Plain Dealer - Mary Kay Cabot

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Actually, that's poor reading comprehension from kffl. Here's what MKC actually wrote (without saying anything).

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Hey Mary Kay: Do you think the Browns will consider trading down out of the No. 4 pick?

-- Matt W., Cincinnati, Ohio

Hey Matt: I do think the Browns will consider trading down if one of the two or three players they really love isn't there and they can still get a coveted player later in the round. Aside from one of the quarterbacks, I think two players they'd strongly consider at No. 4 are receiver Sammy Watkins and offensive tackle Greg Robinson. But if they can pick up another high pick and add another difference maker, I'm sure they'd give it some thought. This team has a lot of needs, including quarterback, receiver, cornerback, inside linebacker and guard.




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You could write an article saying YOU think the Browns would be interested in drafting Joe Schmoe at #4 and someone will pick it up and run with it as inside info on who the Browns will take...

It's getting ridiculous.


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http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/draft.php?d=btgtsq

did another mock using fanspeak generator, with optimum scoutings big board. this would be a heck of a draft. but no way do i expect these players to drop the way the simulator did. enjoy



4
WR SAMMY WATKINS
CLEMSON

26
QB BLAKE BORTLES
UCF

35
G XAVIER SU'A-FILO
UCLA

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CB STANLEY JEAN-BAPTISTE
NEBRASKA

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RB CARLOS HYDE
OHIO STATE

106
TE AC LEONARD
TENNESSEE STATE

127
C GABE IKARD
OKLAHOMA

145
ILB PRESTON BROWN
LOUISVILLE

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ILB MAX BULLOUGH
MICHIGAN STATE

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QB AARON MURRAY
GEORGIA


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4 QB TEDDY BRIDGEWATER LOUISVILLE

26 CB KYLE FULLER VIRGINIA TECH

35 G DAVID YANKEY STANFORD

71 RB TRE MASON AUBURN

83 ILB YARWIN SMALLWOOD UCONN

106 WR DONTE MONCRIEF OLE MISS

127 S HAKEEM SMITH LOUISVILLE

145 TE XAVIER GRIMBLE USC

180 QB AARON MURRAY GEORGIA

218 C MARCUS MARTIN USC

I. Would. Love. This. Draft.


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4 QB TEDDY BRIDGEWATER LOUISVILLE

26 CB KYLE FULLER VIRGINIA TECH

35 G DAVID YANKEY STANFORD

71 RB TRE MASON AUBURN

83 ILB YARWIN SMALLWOOD UCONN

106 WR DONTE MONCRIEF OLE MISS

127 S HAKEEM SMITH LOUISVILLE

145 TE XAVIER GRIMBLE USC

180 QB AARON MURRAY GEORGIA

218 C MARCUS MARTIN USC

I. Would. Love. This. Draft.





you and me both.....very solid draft. however im torn between Manziel and Bridgewater.


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Used Fanspeak for the first time in forever. It's a lot better than it used to be.

As for the draft, pretty much lucked out. Took Borland very early, but with the lack of being able to trade back I had to. I'd probably do the same thing again. Maybe grab an 3-4 DE or a NT in the 3rd or 4th. Daniel McCullers and Will Clarke would have done, but when I saw Jimmy drop so far, I just had to take him as he's my 2nd favorite QB. I was thinking about taking a flyer on Tardiff in the 4th to sure up our O-Line, but Jimmy happened.

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Bridgewater AND Garoppolo? throw in Hoyer and you just want to make sure we have a QB controversy for the next 5 years don't you?

Seriously the biggest problem I have with this draft is that it totally ignored the OL


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Just testing a theory... If none of those QB's work out it'll be true that God really does hate Cleveland.

Why do you feel like it completely ignores the o-line? I drafted Greg Robinson as he has the ability to play either tackle or guard if Schwartz can't convert to guard.

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Bridgewater AND Garoppolo? throw in Hoyer and you just want to make sure we have a QB controversy for the next 5 years don't you?

Seriously the biggest problem I have with this draft is that it totally ignored the OL




Hmm, taking right tackle Greg Robinson at #4 overall is not high enough for you?

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Oops. skipped right over that. My bad.


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How's this..?

4 QB BLAKE BORTLES UCF

26 QB TEDDY BRIDGEWATER LOUISVILLE

35 QB DEREK CARR FRESNO STATE

71 QB JIMMY GAROPPOLO EASTERN ILLINOIS

83 QB A.J. MCCARRON ALABAMA

106 QB DAVID FALES SAN JOSE STATE

127 QB AARON MURRAY GEORGIA

145 QB TAJH BOYD CLEMSON

180 QB TOM SAVAGE PITTSBURGH

218 QB JEFF MATTHEWS CORNELL



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More Ive been studying his game the more impressed with him I become. thats why with the 4th overall pick in the 2014 NFL Draft the Cleveland Browns select.....QB Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M

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QB JOHNNY MANZIEL
TEXAS A&M

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ILB C.J. MOSLEY
ALABAMA

35
G DAVID YANKEY
STANFORD

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RB TRE MASON
AUBURN

83
G CYRIL RICHARDSON
BAYLOR

106
WR MARTAVIUS BRYANT
CLEMSON

127
CB LOUCHEIZ PURIFOY
FLORIDA

145
CB EJ GAINES
MISSOURI

180
QB AARON MURRAY
GEORGIA

218
WR JEREMY GALLON
MICHIGAN

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Might be my favorite mock draft that I've done on here - thought the Raiders were trading up to get Clowney, then they took Watkins, and I thought "I'll take the best player in the draft at 5" -- not an OT like I want (and i'm not huge fans of Mosley and Roby, but when they drop to the 2nd, I like them).


Round 1 Pick 5 (OAK): Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina (A)
Round 1 Pick 17 (BALT): Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M (A)
Round 2 Pick 3: C.J. Mosley, ILB, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 19 (CHI): Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State (A)
Round 3 Pick 10 (NYG): Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Eastern Illinois (A)
Round 4 Pick 6: Cyril Richardson, OG, Baylor (B)
Round 4 Pick 17 (CHI): Charles Sims, RB, West Virginia (A)
Round 5 Pick 5: Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers (B-)
Round 6 Pick 6 (ATL): Michael Sam, DE, Missouri (C-)
Round 7 Pick 3: Dri Archer, WR, Kent State (A)
Round 7 Pick 5 (ATL): Jonathan Newsome, OLB, Ball State (B)


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Yeah.. If our first four rounds went like this, I'd be ecstatic.. Not too mention the chance of trading down from 4, picking up more 2-3rd rounders and still getting Teddy. But to be sure (and because I couldn't trade) I took him at 4..

4 QB TEDDY BRIDGEWATER LOUISVILLE
26 CB KYLE FULLER VIRGINIA TECH
35 WR ODELL BECKHAM JR. LSU
71 RB TRE MASON AUBURN
83 C TRAVIS SWANSON ARKANSAS
106 ILB MAX BULLOUGH MICHIGAN STATE
127 QB AARON MURRAY GEORGIA
145 TE ARTHUR LYNCH GEORGIA
180 S TY ZIMMERMAN KANSAS STATE
218 OT SEANTREL HENDERSON MIAMI


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1a Manziel qb Texas A&M
1b Mettenburger qb LSU
2 Mathews wr Vanderbilt
3a Landry wr LSU
3b Martin de North Carolina
4a Carey rb Arizona
4b Halapio G Florida
5 Fortt ilb California
6 Shembo olb Notre Dame
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Here's one I just did, trying to take into account what I think that Browns will do, (I bought the hype at 4 regarding Carr, even with all other QBs still on the board) combined with what I see as our most desperate needs.

I took a pair of CB, because I think that this is a dire need. We will have both Haden and Skrine hitting free agency next year, and we need help at depth this year. Who knows if McFadden will become anything or not. A defensive coach usually wants solid CB play, as it allows him to get much more creative with his pass rush packages. We get 2 starter quality CB right off the bat, and upgrade the secondary immediately. (and immensely)

I do see us taking a WR high in this draft, and Robinson was the highest rated WR when I drafted him. He is another bigger WR, but lacks elite speed. He is supposed to be a good tactician though. He is supposed to understand how to play in zones, which will benefit him in a WCO type offense.

I wound up with a couple of OL late. I didn't plan on that, but, oh well. lol

I took Bullough in the 7th, because even though he doesn't have any elite abilities, he's a football player. I am not relying upon him 100%, with drafting Skov earlier, but if Bullough translates to the NFL, then he could be a steal. If not, then little risked.

Other than the QB, and I am not sure how the front office looks at the position, I could see this draft going something along these lines. (even though I'm sure that I drafted a few guys drafted after they will actually go)

4
QB DEREK CARR
FRESNO STATE

26
CB JASON VERRETT
TCU

35
CB KYLE FULLER
VIRGINIA TECH

71
WR ALLEN ROBINSON
PENN STATE

83
RB BISHOP SANKEY
WASHINGTON

106
ILB SHAYNE SKOV
STANFORD

127
S KENNY LADLER
VANDERBILT

145
G JON HALAPIO
FLORIDA

180
C BRYAN STORK
FLORIDA STATE

218
ILB MAX BULLOUGH
MICHIGAN STATE


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Here's a few different ideas.

4: QB Bridgewater
26: CB Fuller
35: WR Beckham Jr.
71: G Yankey
83: LB Bullough
106: RB Carey
127: QB Murray


4: LB Mack
26: CB Fuller
35: QB Garopolo
71: WR Robinson
83: G Turner
106: RB Carey
127: CB Desir


4: WR Watkins
26: QB Carr
35: LB Skov
71: RB Mason
83: CB McGill
106: WR Davis
127: G Thomas

So many options.


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Bortles and Manziel were gone at 4 so I decided to do a defensive focused draft.

Round 1 Pick 5 (OAK): Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo
Round 1 Pick 26: Calvin Pryor, FS, Louisville
Round 2 Pick 3: Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech
Round 3 Pick 7: Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Eastern Illinois
Round 3 Pick 19: Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State
Round 4 Pick 6: Anthony Johnson, DT, LSU
Round 4 Pick 7 (OAK): David Yankey, OG, Stanford
Round 4 Pick 27: Lache Seastrunk, RB, Baylor
Round 5 Pick 5: Devin Street, WR, Pittsburgh
Round 6 Pick 4: Isaiah Lewis, SS, Michigan State
Round 7 Pick 3: Tajh Boyd, QB, Clemson

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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft

They have us taking Manziel over Bridgewater. I'd like that the other way around.

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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft

They have us taking Manziel over Bridgewater. I'd like that the other way around.




most of the people that are guru's don't see Bridgewater as a first round pick. one has him taken by Minny at 8 and one by us at 26. the other 4 left him out of the first round.

He's the free faller of this draft or he was exactly where teams expected him to be and the guru's are catching up to where the NFL teams thought he should be.

I"m going with the latter. I never thought he was a first round pick.


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I THINK this is the latest mock draft from CBS Sports:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft

They have us taking Manziel over Bridgewater. I'd like that the other way around.




most of the people that are guru's don't see Bridgewater as a first round pick. one has him taken by Minny at 8 and one by us at 26. the other 4 left him out of the first round.

He's the free faller of this draft or he was exactly where teams expected him to be and the guru's are catching up to where the NFL teams thought he should be.

I"m going with the latter. I never thought he was a first round pick.


Bridgewater reminds me of Aaron Rodgers. Before the draft, he was considered 1 of 2 surefire #1 QBs, but during the draft he dropped all the way down to Green Bay. Why? Not because of tape or games, but because of so-called Draft Gurus! How did he turn out? JMHO Go Brownies!!!!


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Bridgewater reminds me of Aaron Rodgers.




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I THINK this is the latest mock draft from CBS Sports:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft

They have us taking Manziel over Bridgewater. I'd like that the other way around.




most of the people that are guru's don't see Bridgewater as a first round pick. one has him taken by Minny at 8 and one by us at 26. the other 4 left him out of the first round.

He's the free faller of this draft or he was exactly where teams expected him to be and the guru's are catching up to where the NFL teams thought he should be.

I"m going with the latter. I never thought he was a first round pick.


Bridgewater reminds me of Aaron Rodgers. Before the draft, he was considered 1 of 2 surefire #1 QBs, but during the draft he dropped all the way down to Green Bay. Why? Not because of tape or games, but because of so-called Draft Gurus! How did he turn out? JMHO Go Brownies!!!!




Guru's don't draft players... teams decide who they pick and they could care less what guru's say.

Rodgers and Bridgewater are in two different worlds.

Rodgers has way more spin on his throws.
Rodgers throws lasers all over the field even deep passes
Rodgers became good because he had time to learn how to play and train in the NFL
Rodgers is consistent with his throwing motion.
Rodgers has the ability to run and ran twice as much as Teddy did in three years of college
Rodgers only played two season of college ball
Bridgewater played three


Rodgers also fell because a lot of teams didn't need a QB once he passed SF it was a free fall
a lot of teams didn't like how cocky Rodgers was.

there are more differences... but that's the blatantly obvious ones.


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Here is a draft I'd be pretty happy with from Fan Sided (aka SI.com)

1a- Johnny Manziel- QB
1b- Kyle Fuller- CB
2 - Allen Robinson- WR
3a- Carlos Hyde- RB
3b- Shayne Skov- ILB

http://fansided.com/2014/04/28/2014-nfl-mock-draft-updated-three-round-predictions/#!GacLf


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I'm not a big fan of Allen Robinson but I would be thrilled with that outcome.

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I wasn't talking about their play, I agree there is a World of difference. I was just talking about how they dropped on draft day. What has changed on Bridgewater between the end of college and now? A bad pro day. If he were a #1 candidate because of his play, game tape, etc. before his pro day, why is he considered out of the first round? He is the Same QB that he was before. JMHO Go Brownies!!!!!


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I blame Him and his Management Team for not preparing him for his pro day. If he had the usual boring pro day that most QBs have, would he still be considered competition with Clowney as the #1 pick? JMHO Go Brownies!!!!


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