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It's like I said, I'm skeptical.
It's a top story on ESPN by a guy that's been around for a while... 2 different sources. Sure it could be a false story but I don't think so.
Bernie Fine was an Asst. Coach for Syracuse basketball they put it out there that He had molested ball boys, one of the supposed victims changed his story about 11 times and said that the other two had come to him told him to say he did it.
They also put out crap on Colin Kaepernick
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I smoke daily and I've passed 10 urine tests without failure. They are pretty easy to beat.
I see a few guys at the combine were caught diluting. It appears a few of them understand what to do, just not how to do it properly.
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Idiotic if true.
However, Josh has been doing a lot of talking on twitter and sports shows, etc, about who we should draft, etc. If he knew all this I would think he would be keeping a lower profile (and told to do so), which makes me skeptical (the optimist in me at least).
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Yeah, no way this story doesn't turn out true.... ESPN posts rumors that are false - I don't remember them ever being wrong on something like this. Rosenhaus has every reason to lie here (he'd be an idiot to say anything else).
Maybe Gordon somehow beats the charges (unlikely) - otherwise, the Gordon era in Cleveland is probably over.
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# 2 , with States starting to legalize pot ; where is the NFL going to stand ?
# 2. States can legalize pot - doesn't mean your employer will allow it.
States allow alcohol..........doesn't mean you can show up for work with it in your system.
Yep my sister worked at the Cleveland Clinic and she had to take a test for tobacco
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This may sound crazy, but I blame whomever cut Eric Wright. Because if Eric Wright wasn't cut, they wouldn't have had to bring in Buster Skrine, and if Buster Skrine, wasn't just fast but not great in coverage, then they wouldn't have had to try to bring in McFadden. And if McFadden wasn't brought in they wouldn't have wasted a pick on a guy who can't cover, ie, McFadden, and if they didn't waste that pick on McFadden, they wouldn't have had to reach and trade up twice to get Justin Gilbert yesterday. And if they hadn't had to reach and move up twice because they took Justin Gilbert yesterday, they could have another wide receiver on this team, somewhere along the line.
Wide Receivers, good ones, and offensive linemen, are the two positions where the stock is the highest around the league, and paying to get one from another team, is at such a premium that it's cost prohibitive.
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if this is true he is a idiot ...get him off this team...cut him trade him i dont care....and i dont want to hear about how good he is...he is a piece of crap if this is true....gets millions to play a game while our soldiers die over seas to defend this counrty and he cant even stay off the sauce............
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Idiotic if true.
However, Josh has been doing a lot of talking on twitter and sports shows, etc, about who we should draft, etc. If he knew all this I would think he would be keeping a lower profile (and told to do so), which makes me skeptical (the optimist in me at least).
Why? It should be the opposite, he knows the game is up whenever this comes out - might as well get some free media exposure and live up the limelight in the meantime.
For the browns, there's no reason to disclose either -- it's about ticket sales.
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This may sound crazy, but I blame whomever cut Eric Wright
Wright was never cut.
He became a UFA and signed with Detroit for less than we offered.
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I can only hope this part of the story is true...Rosenhaus declined to comment but said the information was "not true."
its not true...drew is knows as a liar......i would be shocked if this story is not true. THink about it...when the media called gordan he refused to talk about it....that right there screams guilty.......then drew refuses to talk about it either...as for him saying the information is not true...that could mean allot of things...perhaos it happened at a different date then they asked him about...or perhaps good ole drew is just lying or in denial.....
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All the wind that came into my sails at 8:00pm last night just left.
I'm now floating aimlessly in a vast ocean of depression.
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I smoke daily and I've passed 10 urine tests without failure. They are pretty easy to beat.
I see a few guys at the combine were caught diluting. It appears a few of them understand what to do, just not how to do it properly.
yeah but im pretty sure a organization like the NFL has much better methods of testing for this stuff then whoever is testing you......this is the nfl...they are not stupid
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All the wind that came into my sails at 8:00pm last night just left.
I'm now floating aimlessly in a vast ocean of depression.
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Rappaport now reporting it as well.
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Major dumbass.
Draft Lee and another WR. Forget about this loser.
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Sadly, the news seems pretty legit. It's all over the NFL Network right now.
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I cut him today...and I also have serious doubts about the competency of our FO when they knew this last night and they pass on watkins. Everyone knew that Gordon was going to be short for the NFL because he's a big dumbass and always has been.
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I cut him today...and I also have serious doubts about the competency of our FO when they knew this last night and they pass on watkins. Everyone knew that Gordon was going to be short for the NFL because he's a big dumbass and always has been.
No reason to cut a guy who is suspended, and no team has ever done it. Not Incognito, Not Vick, nobody.
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Cutting him today would be the emotional move, not the smart move. What if he wins his appeal?
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I am sure we knew some days ago. I don't think we found out with the Rappaport report.
It's a deep receiver draft.
Greg Little might be smiling a bit.
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If this is true, you cut him tomorrow...you outright cut him
I don't give a damn...he has no trade value now with this, and its just a distraction...he may be a good receiver, but this type of behavior is just unacceptable.
Haslam needs to use this to send a message to this team...that himself, like The Rooney's, won't put up with this nonsense...either you stay clean or your not on the team..very simple concept.
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Holy cow - if this is true it just truly sucks!! One of the most dynamic weapons in the NFL.... though we knew it was a risk... sure as heck hope we draft Lee....
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Funny how quick depression sets in...word is Browns have known for 2 weeks...so 14 days or so has went by and the report came out...Gordon is done for...now we need to get some WRs and hope Little has a big contract year this year...Gordon sure WAS fun to watch
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Mortensen said it was confirmed that the FO knew well before last night, but the coaches just found out 90 minutes ago
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I think I take Latimore over Lee here...Lee is fragile
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Well it was a fun 18 hours, I'll never forget that feeling. People were so happy, full of confidence and pride, now it's gone. 18 hours and a game wasn't even played.
Never before has this statement been more true, Only in Cleveland.
Oh well, not like we aren't used to crushing disappointment. I already feel a little better after typing this. Sad, but useful for my psyche.
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could have been the plan all along.. shore up the D with new CB.. get a QB.. then start drafting WR..
Mortensen on ESPN just said Browns were informed 2 weeks ago... meaning the Browns knew before the draft last night
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I'm a little lost on this timeline.
He (reportedly) failed test in early "winter", odd way of putting it but that is late Dec to early Jan, yet they let him play in the PB in late Jan and no mention of this for 3 months to the team who should be told to make different draft arrangements if necessary. Then let this out the 2nd day of the draft. Why wouldn't the NFL let the team know at the very least in March, it doesn't take that long to recheck a drug test.
It's all just a bit odd.
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He also said it is league protocol for the coaches not to know.
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He didnt know about it. When they posed the question to him, his response was this is the first he's hearing about it.
PPL on here read too much in between the lines on stuff. If it did just get brought to the Browns attention...my question is why the NFL waited so long?
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Funny how quick depression sets in...word is Browns have known for 2 weeks...so 14 days or so has went by and the report came out...Gordon is done for...now we need to get some WRs and hope Little has a big contract year this year...Gordon sure WAS fun to watch
Probably so....and we have done our homework.
Makes last night all the more impressive that we didn't panic and made our play..
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He just posted on twitter that the Browns didn't know until 90 minutes ago.
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He just posted on twitter that the Browns didn't know until 90 minutes ago.
The front office knew, the coaches didn't.
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He just posted on twitter that the Browns didn't know until 90 minutes ago.
The front office knew, the coaches didn't.
That information alone angers me to great depths
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I am sure we knew some days ago. I don't think we found out with the Rappaport report.
It's a deep receiver draft.
Greg Little might be smiling a bit.
yeah he is smiling cause now he has more chances to drop passes and not get open because he is to friggen slow
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But thanks Josh....I don't think we wanted to draft a WR all this early.
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At least its in time to get a good WR
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