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I ask this every time the issue comes up, and no one's ever answered...

Why do so many people pretend that the whole notion of being politically correct is a left or liberal thing?

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How would I know? I think it's more of a chicken crap thing myself

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There's a difference between making fun of browns fans and using a caricature of a group of people we literally all but exterminated many years ago.

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Yes, you can call people what you want and ostracize them. The problem is some people believe this to mean they can call people and ostracize people and not face any criticism themselves. For example, you can still call a little person a midget or a dwarf and it's perfectly legal. You can call a Native American a "Redskin" as well or a black person a you know what, however you will get called out on it and may even get hurt for (Rightfully so, by the way). This is the part that "politically incorrect" people do not understand.

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"Midget" is not a medical term. Also, can I start calling people slurs if it's out of affection? Just groups of people?

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I personally refused by buy Snickers bars for years after the commercial they ran with two Browns fans in the empty old Muni, but I didn't call for them to go out of business.

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Missed this. Do you believe the Baltimore Ravens should be named the Baltimore Browns?

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It's not a minorities job to seek approval from every white person.

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First of all, who's we? As I have stated before, the Spanish wiped out 90% of the indigenous peoples by being exposed to small pox before they landed on the continent. I had nothing to do with any of that. Do you constantly feel guilt?

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"We" is every proud American willing to accept our good and bad history!

But, sticking to the point, how many Spanish teams are there in this country with negative stereotype logos?

It's weird that people personalize a wish to correct something as an attack on themselves. It's a grass roots effort, much like the Tea Party, to achieve a goal.

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I find this statement RACIST and OFFENSIVE!

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I found a $5 bill in my pants pocket once.

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your first words to me were that I "...COMPLETELY missed the point..." That sounds more like an insult than an attempt to have an intelligent conversation.

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I find it ironic how some of you are going on about free speech, yet you want to gang up and criticize people who voice their opinion about not liking the Redskin name.

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First of all, who's we? As I have stated before, the Spanish wiped out 90% of the indigenous peoples by being exposed to small pox before they landed on the continent. I had nothing to do with any of that. Do you constantly feel guilt?

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"We" is every proud American willing to accept our good and bad history!

But, sticking to the point, how many Spanish teams are there in this country with negative stereotype logos?

It's weird that people personalize a wish to correct something as an attack on themselves. It's a grass roots effort, much like the Tea Party, to achieve a goal.

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Yes. Someone should have beat them up a long time ago. Anyone who believes things like those only respond to force, you can try to discuss, debate or have any meaningful conversation with them, but it'll fall on deaf ears much to your chagrin.

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So, in essence, if someone disagrees with you, they should be beaten up, or should have been beaten up a long time ago since they only respond to force?

Got it.

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Yes it seems that the crime of assault is perfectly okay when someone feels offended.



Any time someone uses that logic, I hope they get the longest sentence allowed by law.

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The United States Patent and Trademark Office has canceled six federal trademark registrations for the name of the Washington Redskins, ruling that the name is “disparaging to Native Americans” and thus cannot be trademarked under federal law that prohibits the protection of offensive or disparaging language.

The U.S. PTO’s Trademark Trial and Appeal Board issued a ruling in the case, brought against the team by plaintiff Amanda Blackhorse, Wednesday morning.

“We decide, based on the evidence properly before us, that these registrations must be cancelled because they were disparaging to Native Americans at the respective times they were registered,” the board wrote in its opinion.

“The Trademark Trial and Appeal Board agreed with our clients that the team’s name and trademarks disparage Native Americans. The Board ruled that the Trademark Office should never have registered these trademarks in the first place,” Jesse Witten, the plaintiffs’ lead attorney, said in a press release. “We presented a wide variety of evidence – including dictionary definitions and other reference works, newspaper clippings, movie clips, scholarly articles, expert linguist testimony, and evidence of the historic opposition by Native American groups – to demonstrate that the word ‘redskin’ is an ethnic slur.”

“I am extremely happy that the [Board] ruled in our favor,” Blackhorse said in a statement. “It is a great victory for Native Americans and for all Americans. We filed our petition eight years ago and it has been a tough battle ever since. I hope this ruling brings us a step closer to that inevitable day when the name of the Washington football team will be changed. The team’s name is racist and derogatory. I’ve said it before and I will say it again – if people wouldn’t dare call a Native American a ‘redskin’ because they know it is offensive, how can an NFL football team have this name?”

The Trial and Appeals Board previously rescinded the team’s trademark protections as part of a case filed in 1992. A federal court later overturned the ruling on appeal due to a technicality that the plaintiffs say has been fixed in this most recent case.

We will update this post with more information.

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... reflects the hard work of many attorneys at our firm,”

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So we can guess who truly benefits from this issue. No real surprise there! . Now you know "the rest of the story"...thanks, Paul Harvey.

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Trademark on Redskin revoked by the trademark office in D.C.:

And before it's even brought up again: the fighting irish doesn't apply here.

The Fighting Irish isn't labeled on a group who originally settled the land, had their land taken away, and were systematically murdered because of a believed God given right of manifest destiny.*

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So the only people this applies to is the native americans, not Asian , not whites and not Blacks so the best mascot would be...

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Can't use the term REDSKINS...they may decide the potatoes will have to be renamed next!

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And before it's even brought up again: the fighting irish doesn't apply here. The Fighting Irish isn't labeled on a group who originally settled the land, had their land taken away, and were systematically murdered because of a believed God given right of manifest destiny.*

*Note:Sure...there's the whole Irish independence thing. But that doesn't apply to fighting Irish in this country.

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The landmark case, which appeared before the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board, was filed on behalf of five Native Americans. It was the second time such a case was filed.

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Yeah, when someone calls me a racist term I don't feel offended. I feel threatened. It's most likely that you've never experienced fear when someone calls you a name, and it's really such a hard thing to describe because it seems so out of place. I'd equate it to what women are also going through. And if you know a woman, you know she doesn't just have keys on her key chain. Again, it's really hard to explain the feeling, but if you want to know more feel free to ask and I'll try to explain it a lot better.

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I do accept our history. I just don't feel guilt for it, nor do I feel a need to correct it. I do what is morally correct, and I expect others to do the same.

Why would Spanish teams have anything to do with anything in this discussion. You try to blame us Americans for wiping out the 'indians'. We didn't. Did the American government take territory and rewrite treaties? Yes. Was the American government fair to the 'Indians'? Not very often. Do they get special benefits that none of the rest of us do by the situation of their birth now? Yes. Should we give the Spanish and Portuguese all the land they claimed with the treaty of Tordesillas? That's in the past too.

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I don't think this is an issue that someone requires you to take "blame" or "feel guilty" for.

I don't think accepting our history means agreeing that you did anything morally wrong. I have questioned about the need to take this issue personally, which I don't think is necessary or productive.

It would be interesting to learn about native Americans' special benefits and the ways those benefits give them an advantage over the benefits we all receive. My guess is they don't have to imagine that people are always asking them to feel guilty about something.

I will ask you, how does someone asking the Redskins to change their name or the Indians to change their logo honestly effect you and your life?

As far as the Spanish thing, you introduced it when you mentioned the Spanish and their damage to the natives. Maybe I was wrong and it had everything to do with people asking the Redskins to change their name. My bad.

But now I'm overwhelmed with a feeling a guilt that our society hasn't given them this land yet.

FREE THE TORDESILLAS NOW!!!!

Better yet, FREE TORTILLAS NOW!!!!

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U.S. Patent office cancels Redskins trademark registration, says name is disparaging

The United States Patent and Trademark Office has canceled the Washington Redskins trademark registration, calling the football team’s name “disparaging to Native Americans.”

The landmark case, which appeared before the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board, was filed on behalf of five Native Americans. It was the second time such a case was filed.

“This victory was a long time coming and reflects the hard work of many attorneys at our firm,” said lead attorney Jesse Witten, of Drinker Biddle & Reath.

Federal trademark law does not permit registration of trademarks that “may disparage” individuals or groups or “bring them into contempt or disrepute.” The ruling pertains to six different trademarks associated with the team, each containing the word “Redskin.”


“We are extraordinarily gratified to have prevailed in this case,” Alfred Putnam Jr., the chairman of Drinker Biddle & Reath, said. “The dedication and professionalism of our attorneys and the determination of our clients have resulted in a milestone victory that will serve as an historic precedent.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/us-p...9789_story.html

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Where did I say that I wanted to "FORCE" them to change the name? I stated my opinion about I find the name offensive. I took offense to posters saying that the reason people formulated that opinion is because they read twitter and other social media crap. Pfffttttt, more sterotyping from the moral majority.

You were the one completely missing the point.

I am glad you are done, because all you can bring are lies and insults to the discussion. These debates escalate into absurdity.

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If I allowed myself to believe such improbable beliefs I would think there's a social media driven conservative agenda!

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I think they should keep the name, but change the logo to a potato with a feather stuck in it... just for spite's sake.

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so next they are going after the potatoe company to get the name of that potatoe changed.

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Brought to you by the Dan Quayle spelling academy.

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so next they are going after the potatoe company to get the name of that potatoe changed.

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Brought to you by the Dan Quayle spelling academy.

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Well played, sir.

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Another major policy victory for you left wing wacco Obamaites. Now to change the rest of the world.

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Actually Stand Your Ground Laws agree with me in theory. In application of the rule within the minority community, it would not. Anyway, it's just simple self defense.

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