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But Big Ben, who is a tool, and far from the sharpest tool in the tool box; your willing to sign up for that?
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Stop farting. yeah...
I hate it when people make statements tehy obvioulsy cannot or will not adhere too.
GM not farting might? as well hold back a flood with a paper towel
for 5 million a year I could hold back that flood with half of a bounty lol
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Maybe he just wanted Selena Gomez's number. lol
Geez I could have given him that.
I mean with the restraining order and all It does me no good any more 
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No beard, to skinny, and No Cleveland Browns shirt, nope not me  Now before the Refs lock this thread maybe we should get back to pure football.
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he's right.. now what were we talking about.. oh yea how do we keep JM from farting on Selena Gomez... 
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After the Quinn's and McCoy's of the worlds, great guys who just do the right thing, I don't really care what a guy does during the offseason, as long as he puts in the work when it's time.
And it seems that a lot of people are just assuming that because he goes out and drinks, that it automatically means he obviously doesn't care about his job, and that's just crazy...
I think this is more about the people that are around him, just like LeBron has always had his yes men, Johnny has always had his boys, and now he's got money and fame, and they want some of it..
Is he completely innocent? obviously not. But I'm not ganna crucify the guy because he parties.
He's got at least four years here to be crucified in so many different ways..
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But I'm not ganna crucify the guy because he parties.
For me, at least, it isn't that he parties. It's the perception - and yes, this is probably very much media influenced and may not reflect reality - that partying is something that he does excessively. There are a lot of us folks that have known a lot of folks like that in our time, and those guys are usually the ones that go on to waste their immense talents because they can't handle the rest of their life; the party becomes more important than the other things.
None of us know the truth. Hopefully this is simply the result of media reporters blowing things out of proportion, but the sheer number of reports of him being like this over the course of several years easily backs up the idea that it isn't simply being overblown. As we've learned all too many times with other negative things with this team and our players... where there's smoke, there's fire. If that is the case, then the team needs to put some babysitters on him to make sure he stays out of trouble. If he can do that and if he has some work ethic, then he's got a solid chance.
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offset language apparently. If we cut him he wants paid by us and the new team.
Then let him sit out the year without a contract and re-enter the draft next year.
If he isn't good enough to stick around here through his rookie contract, he doesn't deserve to get anything. Give him a clause that protects him in the case of an injury waiver, but that's it.
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offset language apparently. If we cut him he wants paid by us and the new team.
Then let him sit out the year without a contract and re-enter the draft next year.
If he isn't good enough to stick around here through his rookie contract, he doesn't deserve to get anything. Give him a clause that protects him in the case of an injury waiver, but that's it.
The offset language is actually one of the more sensible things the owners have discovered ..... and, of course, the players don't like it.
I do like it, because I don't like a guy failing on one team, only to make more money than he would have by going to another team and getting paid twice.
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Johnny Manziel likely doing coke.
http://bustedcoverage.com/2014/07/06/johnny-manziel-rolling-money-in-a-restroom/
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Truly remarkable that you could somehow find fault with Johnny Manziel in Josh Gordons idiocy. Remind me again, has Manziel ever failed a drug test? Did he have any REAL trouble at Texas A&M? Has he veer been arrested?
Ridiculous.
so a half hour after you said that to me you put up a pic of him doing coke? 
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Truly remarkable that you could somehow find fault with Johnny Manziel in Josh Gordons idiocy. Remind me again, has Manziel ever failed a drug test? Did he have any REAL trouble at Texas A&M? Has he veer been arrested?
Ridiculous.
so a half hour after you said that to me you put up a pic of him doing coke?
It's not hard to put it together, but I'll spell it out for you. When you posted that, this did not exist. When I posted mine, I wasn't aware of it.
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When are all the fuddy duddy old timers coming around to act like Johnny being himself is some huge problem?
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Wow , a new one to add to my list .. " fuddy duddy old timers ! 
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When are all the fuddy duddy old timers coming around to act like Johnny being himself is some huge problem?
pdr...so if that is a picture of Manziel in a restroom rolling up a dollar bill so he can snort some coke...that is just Johnny being Johnny and old timers should just accept the fact...that is what you believe?
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I'm sure there's some completely innocent reason he's rolling up dollar bills that has absolutely nothing to do with coke or drugs. I just can't think of what it might be.
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When are all the fuddy duddy old timers coming around to act like Johnny being himself is some huge problem?
pdr...so if that is a picture of Manziel in a restroom rolling up a dollar bill so he can snort some coke...that is just Johnny being Johnny and old timers should just accept the fact...that is what you believe?
You're kidding, right?
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would it be better if he was rolling a joint w/ a dollar bill?
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I'm sure there's some completely innocent reason he's rolling up dollar bills that has absolutely nothing to do with coke or drugs. I just can't think of what it might be.
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If I was the Browns I would suspend him for the first 4 games. Shape up or you will never play for the Browns.
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maybe the soda straw in his Jack and coke broke.. and he needed a replacement... 
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If I was the Browns I would suspend him for the first 4 games. Shape up or you will never play for the Browns.
1. You can't suspend someone for a picture of nothing.
2. If I was the Browns Johnny wouldn't be playing this year at all anyways. See if you have anything in Hoyer, if not, Johnny takes over an offense he has a year of practice in.. plus new jerseys! 
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would it be better if he was rolling a joint w/ a dollar bill?
depends.. have they found the razor blade and coke mirror yet ?

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1. You can't suspend someone for a picture.
Why not?
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I'm sure there's some completely innocent reason he's rolling up dollar bills that has absolutely nothing to do with coke or drugs. I just can't think of what it might be.
Getting ready to tip the restroom attendant.
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When are all the fuddy duddy old timers coming around to act like Johnny being himself is some huge problem?
pdr...so if that is a picture of Manziel in a restroom rolling up a dollar bill so he can snort some coke...that is just Johnny being Johnny and old timers should just accept the fact...that is what you believe?
You're kidding, right?
pdr...did you write this.."When are all the fuddy duddy old timers coming around to act like Johnny being himself is some huge problem? "
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I'm sure there's some completely innocent reason he's rolling up dollar bills that has absolutely nothing to do with coke or drugs. I just can't think of what it might be.
peen...problem is, I'm sure the NFL has the most sophisticated testing available and it appears that they have the right to randomly test any player...if Johnny is tested and comes up dirty, the NFL will know what he was using the dollar bill for.
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When are all the fuddy duddy old timers coming around to act like Johnny being himself is some huge problem?
pdr...so if that is a picture of Manziel in a restroom rolling up a dollar bill so he can snort some coke...that is just Johnny being Johnny and old timers should just accept the fact...that is what you believe?
You're kidding, right?
pdr...did you write this.."When are all the fuddy duddy old timers coming around to act like Johnny being himself is some huge problem? "
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I'm sure there's some completely innocent reason he's rolling up dollar bills that has absolutely nothing to do with coke or drugs. I just can't think of what it might be.
peen...problem is, I'm sure the NFL has the most sophisticated testing available and it appears that they have the right to randomly test any player...if Johnny is tested and comes up dirty, the NFL will know what he was using the dollar bill for.
Test him this morning. This is BS
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pdr...so if that is a picture of Manziel in a restroom rolling up a dollar bill so he can snort some coke...that is just Johnny being Johnny, right?
... and old timers should just accept the fact that Johnny is just being Johnny, right?
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I'm sure there's some completely innocent reason he's rolling up dollar bills that has absolutely nothing to do with coke or drugs. I just can't think of what it might be.
peen...problem is, I'm sure the NFL has the most sophisticated testing available and it appears that they have the right to randomly test any player...if Johnny is tested and comes up dirty, the NFL will know what he was using the dollar bill for.
Test him this morning. This is BS
bdog...if the NFL believes that picture to be legit...they may have already made Johnny pee in their bottle.
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pdr...so if that is a picture of Manziel in a restroom rolling up a dollar bill so he can snort some coke...that is just Johnny being Johnny, right?
... and old timers should just accept the fact that Johnny is just being Johnny, right?
I'm half-tempted to get you to ask the same inane question over and over again, but I'll spare the rest of the board today.
You should read through threads rather then look for a point to jump in with your opinion.
If the language used wasn't enough to indicate sarcasm, the fact that I've been the most vocal detractor of Manziel's behavior in this thread should've been more than enough.
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If the language used wasn't enough to indicate sarcasm, the fact that I've been the most vocal detractor of Manziel's behavior in this thread should've been more than enough.
pdr...you do realize there is a color to indicate sarcasm?
When that color is not used, the reader can interpret the comment as it is written.
Oh, purple...that is the color used for sarcasm.
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http://bustedcoverage.com/2014/07/06/johnny-manziel-rolling-money-in-a-restroom/
Umm ...... yeah ..... well .......
That really looks bad.
Looks like we were really smart to add a 2nd 1st round pick next year ..... because it looks like we might need to draft another QB. There can only be so much smoke billowing before even the most ardent supporters have to admit that there certainly appears to be a problem here.
Even if this was meant as a joke, it would be incredibly inappropriate. I am definitely moving to the mindset that he has a real problem ..... either with understanding his image, substance abuse, or both.
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I don't need to use a color so the slow train can follow along.
As for drug testing Manziel...
1) I'm not even sure if they can. IIRC, he would've already taken his one recreational drug test, and I don't know that they can force more on him without him being in at least Stage One.
2) Odds are, it's out of his system.
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This from PFT...
Manziel’s latest Vegas trip creates an interesting photo
Posted by Mike Florio on July 7, 2014, 9:26 AM EDT
Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel returned to Vegas for the Fourth of July weekend. Naturally, there are photos.
And one of them is leading to plenty of speculation.
Via BustedCoverage.com, one picture shows Manziel in a bathroom tightly rolling money. Rolled dollar bills are often used for snorting cocaine and cocaine is often snorted in the bathroom of a nightclub. (At least that’s what they did in the ’80s. I’ve heard.)
We won’t speculate on what Manziel planned to do with the money, and there’s no evidence in the photo of any cocaine or other banned substances. And if anyone knows of any reasons why Manziel would be tightly rolling money in a bathroom, feel free to drop them in the comments.
Players are tested for banned recreational drugs only once per year. If Manziel had his test during offseason workouts, he faces no further testing until April 20, 2015.
Unless, of course, the powers-that-be regard the photo as reasonable cause for asking Manziel to donate a cup of urine for insertion into a machine that will determine whether the urine contains evidence of any banned substances.
Meanwhile, it’s been less than two weeks since the Browns reportedly told Manziel to tone it down. Whatever Manziel planned to do with that dollar, he isn’t toning it down — especially since other photos posted at BustedCoverage.com show him kissing Playboy Social model Dallas Parks.
[Photo via BustedCoverage.com] ... web page
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