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OK - who thought it would be 3-3 at half? Be honest!  I thought we'd be down 14-7 myself... Not me. I'm just glad we scored. LOL
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We burned a time out to not run a play? Yeah that was weird. Pettine has no idea what timeouts are for or when they should and should not be called.
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Not all bad, boys! Not all bad.
Tied score.
No trainwreck at QB.
Doing "okay."
Nothing embarrassing.....Nothing too exciting either, but this IS the Browns with another new QB startin.'
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I was thinking it would be more like 17-3 or so.
The Rats should be embarrassed. We are a shell and they are playing for their lives.
I just want to see that stadium in tears.
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I was thinking it would be more like 17-3 or so.
The Rats should be embarrassed. We are a shell and they are playing for their lives.
I just want to see that stadium in tears. IF we can win, we'd be .500 in our division...that is a success season no matter how you slice it!
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Even Boomer cuts on Manziel! Well, JM now has his NFL legacy as a joke heading into next year. I hope he learns a thing or two.
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Even Boomer cuts on Manziel! Well, JM now has his NFL legacy as a joke heading into next year. I hope he learns a thing or two. He won't. But he'll tell you he has.
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So you want to sign Hoyer to starter money and anoint him the franchise QB for the next 5 years? Wow. 12 touchdowns, `13 interceptions and he's a franchise player.... Alrighty then. No, I want to sign Hoyer for a REASONABLE amount to help transition the Browns as Shaw (or whoever) develops. Bring in a quality backup (if you don't think Shaw is ready yet). Tell Hoyer it's his job. Period. I want to see what this guy can do with Mack anchoring this line for a FULL season and our RBs likely not hitting a wall after 10-12 games. Bring in some help to get pressure on the passer. Manziel should be an after thought at this point. Get what you can for Gordon. Have Gilbert return kicks and work as a nickel. Get OL depth where you can. We need a couple play makers at WR. Draft, FA, I don't care. It is clear that there are guys who will make an effort for Pettine. It is also clear that there are guys that won't. Hopefully Haslam let's Farmer do his job and Farmer sticks to his draft board. BPA is the topic of the day with two first rounders coming up. Depending on how it shakes out, maybe switch to a 4-3. We have to get better at some point, don't we?
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Even Boomer cuts on Manziel! Well, JM now has his NFL legacy as a joke heading into next year. I hope he learns a thing or two. i'm afraid the only thing he's learned is how to put this name on his solo cup.
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We burned a time out to not run a play? Yeah that was weird. Pettine has no idea what timeouts are for or when they should and should not be called. Seriously, he mismanaged end of half/game all year. Anyone else sick of anylists making fun of Johnny's party? Can we just cut our losses with this punk?
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I like a guy that has such a weak arm he can't play in the wind... Did you not see the 1st Cincy game? He was knifing it through the wind while Dalton's passes were blowing all over the place. . Yea I saw it. That's why his comments are so lame. .if someone is gonna have an agenda at least make intelligence comments.
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Even Boomer cuts on Manziel! Well, JM now has his NFL legacy as a joke heading into next year. I hope he learns a thing or two. I don't think he cares. Root cause of the whole problem.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Hoyer needs to be resigned. We need some veteran leadership and he is better than any FA. Plus he knows the system.
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IF we can win, we'd be .500 in our division...that is a success season no matter how you slice it! I'd say that's progress. Build of that for next year with some more success at home.
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We burned a time out to not run a play? Yeah that was weird. Pettine has no idea what timeouts are for or when they should and should not be called. Seriously, he mismanaged end of half/game all year. Anyone else sick of anylists making fun of Johnny's party? Can we just cut our losses with this punk? Is anybody surprised? We knew this kind of commentary comes with Mr. Football, more so if he didn't produce on the field.
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Sigh, until you have a QB, you are looking for a QB.
Manziel is just getting mocked and laughed at by anyone with a voice.
I hope he figure things out, but I think the Browns would be better off to look elsewhere for a QB,
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So you want to sign Hoyer to starter money and anoint him the franchise QB for the next 5 years? Wow. 12 touchdowns, `13 interceptions and he's a franchise player.... Alrighty then. More like current starter while team jells. Don'think it will take that much and not 5 yrs to sign Hoyer, unless he gets crazy offers in FA. I just have a feeling JM is not gonna be ready for a long time
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We burned a time out to not run a play? Yeah that was weird. Pettine has no idea what timeouts are for or when they should and should not be called. Seriously, he mismanaged end of half/game all year. Anyone else sick of anylists making fun of Johnny's party? Not really, I can listen to that all day.
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Hoyer needs to be resigned. We need some veteran leadership and he is better than any FA. Plus he knows the system. It looks like he's being quite the mentor on the sideline.
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WTFFFFFFF!!! why call a fuckin timeout just to kneel it?!?!??!?!?!? WTFF! 52 posts. Been nice talking to you. See you later
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Even Boomer cuts on Manziel! Well, JM now has his NFL legacy as a joke heading into next year. I hope he learns a thing or two. I don't think he cares. Root cause of the whole problem. You pretty much nailed it, Rish... You really can't fix the stupid/arrogant combination.
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I like a guy that has such a weak arm he can't play in the wind... Did you not see the 1st Cincy game? He was knifing it through the wind while Dalton's passes were blowing all over the place. . Yea I saw it. That's why his comments are so lame. .if someone is gonna have an agenda at least make intelligence comments. Thats not how that works that not how any of this works
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Hoyer needs to be resigned. We need some veteran leadership and he is better than any FA. Plus he knows the system. It's sad that this is the reality, but it is. You don't resign Hoyer because you think he's good. You resign him because there is nothing else better. And hope Hoyer can improve.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Why would he take that out
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All 3 of our QBs are terrible, another typical end to a Cleveland Browns football season. At this point I don't care if we keep any of them.
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Hoyer is not the answer. It is okay to hate on JFF and still realize that Hoyer also sucks. Say what you want about him, but Cutler could make this team 3-4 games better with the right offense.
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Why would you bring it out from 8 yard deep? Oh, so we could start at the 15 yard line...
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So you want to sign Hoyer to starter money and anoint him the franchise QB for the next 5 years? Wow. 12 touchdowns, `13 interceptions and he's a franchise player.... Alrighty then. No, I want to sign Hoyer for a REASONABLE amount to help transition the Browns as Shaw (or whoever) develops. Bring in a quality backup (if you don't think Shaw is ready yet). Tell Hoyer it's his job. Period. I want to see what this guy can do with Mack anchoring this line for a FULL season and our RBs likely not hitting a wall after 10-12 games. Bring in some help to get pressure on the passer. Manziel should be an after thought at this point. Get what you can for Gordon. Have Gilbert return kicks and work as a nickel. Get OL depth where you can. We need a couple play makers at WR. Draft, FA, I don't care. It is clear that there are guys who will make an effort for Pettine. It is also clear that there are guys that won't. Hopefully Haslam let's Farmer do his job and Farmer sticks to his draft board. BPA is the topic of the day with two first rounders coming up. Depending on how it shakes out, maybe switch to a 4-3. We have to get better at some point, don't we? That assumes Hoyer will take backup money. He turned it down last off season. He believes he's a starter and will want starter money as a FA. It's likely some team will be desperate enough to give it to him. Hopefully that isn't us. You're assuming that Haslam FORCED Farmer to take Johnny. I've seen to evidence of this. Even if it was so, Farmer took Gilbert, a guy turning out to be an even bigger headcase. And West has shown attitude problems as well. It seems as if Farmer has a type that he like to draft and that type is egotistic nutjob.
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QB sneak please.
Don't get cute here.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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At least we're hurting them, too....
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Hoyer needs to be resigned. We need some veteran leadership and he is better than any FA. Plus he knows the system. It looks like he's being quite the mentor on the sideline. If he is, it says a lot about how much respect he has for Shaw and how little he has for Johnny Jerkoff. And MANAGEMENT needs to make the same observation. SMH
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Cutler is a the biggest POS in the league. I'd rather we direct snap to the RB each play.
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Sigh, until you have a QB, you are looking for a QB.
Manziel is just getting mocked and laughed at by anyone with a voice.
I hope he figure things out, but I think the Browns would be better off to look elsewhere for a QB, JM has lost a lot of his cheerleaders over the last few weeks. Media is really starting to tee off on him especially after this week.
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Finally converted a third down
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So you want to sign Hoyer to starter money and anoint him the franchise QB for the next 5 years? Wow. 12 touchdowns, `13 interceptions and he's a franchise player.... Alrighty then. No, I want to sign Hoyer for a REASONABLE amount to help transition the Browns as Shaw (or whoever) develops. Bring in a quality backup (if you don't think Shaw is ready yet). Tell Hoyer it's his job. Period. I want to see what this guy can do with Mack anchoring this line for a FULL season and our RBs likely not hitting a wall after 10-12 games. Bring in some help to get pressure on the passer. Manziel should be an after thought at this point. Get what you can for Gordon. Have Gilbert return kicks and work as a nickel. Get OL depth where you can. We need a couple play makers at WR. Draft, FA, I don't care. It is clear that there are guys who will make an effort for Pettine. It is also clear that there are guys that won't. Hopefully Haslam let's Farmer do his job and Farmer sticks to his draft board. BPA is the topic of the day with two first rounders coming up. Depending on how it shakes out, maybe switch to a 4-3. We have to get better at some point, don't we? That assumes Hoyer will take backup money. He turned it down last off season. He believes he's a starter and will want starter money as a FA. It's likely some team will be desperate enough to give it to him. Hopefully that isn't us. You're assuming that Haslam FORCED Farmer to take Johnny. I've seen to evidence of this. Even if it was so, Farmer took Gilbert, a guy turning out to be an even bigger headcase. And West has shown attitude problems as well. It seems as if Farmer has a type that he like to draft and that type is egotistic nutjob. OK this has been going on all season even when the team was winning. What is your agenda? So we can all get on the same page!
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So you want to sign Hoyer to starter money and anoint him the franchise QB for the next 5 years? Wow. 12 touchdowns, `13 interceptions and he's a franchise player.... Alrighty then. No, I want to sign Hoyer for a REASONABLE amount to help transition the Browns as Shaw (or whoever) develops. Bring in a quality backup (if you don't think Shaw is ready yet). Tell Hoyer it's his job. Period. I want to see what this guy can do with Mack anchoring this line for a FULL season and our RBs likely not hitting a wall after 10-12 games. Bring in some help to get pressure on the passer. Manziel should be an after thought at this point. Get what you can for Gordon. Have Gilbert return kicks and work as a nickel. Get OL depth where you can. We need a couple play makers at WR. Draft, FA, I don't care. It is clear that there are guys who will make an effort for Pettine. It is also clear that there are guys that won't. Hopefully Haslam let's Farmer do his job and Farmer sticks to his draft board. BPA is the topic of the day with two first rounders coming up. Depending on how it shakes out, maybe switch to a 4-3. We have to get better at some point, don't we? That assumes Hoyer will take backup money. He turned it down last off season. He believes he's a starter and will want starter money as a FA. It's likely some team will be desperate enough to give it to him. Hopefully that isn't us. You're assuming that Haslam FORCED Farmer to take Johnny. I've seen to evidence of this. Even if it was so, Farmer took Gilbert, a guy turning out to be an even bigger headcase. And West has shown attitude problems as well. It seems as if Farmer has a type that he like to draft and that type is egotistic nutjob. Hoyer deserves a mid tier starter contract. He won't get Dalton offers from anybody. I'm sure Hoyer is a realist and understands his worth.
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gotta make a decision and sling that thing.
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West looks particularly spry today.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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